Bill: No snacks for food stamp users

Back on topic, I agree that it is annoying to see people buying junk food on food stamps... but I am on food stamps, and the only way you can have enough to eat while avoiding junk food is if you spend a lot of time and effort in the kitchen. Not everyone has that time or the energy to spend that much effort.

Keep in mind food stamps aren't just for the out of work or lazy but the majority of people on disability are also on food stamps, and whatever keeps them from being able to work also often keeps them from being able to spend that much time and energy in the kitchen and certainly keeps them from being able to tend to a garden.

It is hard enough to eat healthy on food stamps when you ARE able to spend a bunch of time and energy in the kitchen or a garden. Healthy food is EXPENSIVE. But it's much, much worse if you must buy foods that do not require much preparation. Even if you only ever bought fruits and veggies you could just rinse and bite into, it still would not be enough to stave off hunger until the food stamps are replenished.

That is the case with me, and in those cases it comes down to a choice between eating healthy foods that will only get you through less than half the month - usually only a week, or eating junk food that will keep you from feeling hungry for the entire month. In my case, I DO choose to go hungry most of the day just to be able to ensure what I DO eat is healthy. That usually means I'll just munch on a few raw fruits or raw veggies - the same amount of food that for most people would be their day's snacks. So I choose healthy food over not being hungry. But it isn't easy, and most people can't handle the hunger pains.

Let's not be so judgmental. It is very hard to be hungry. It goes against a basic human need. I do not judge those that choose junk food over hunger. I might do the same thing if I wasn't so desperate to try to beat whatever I am dealing with health-wise.
 
Back on topic, I agree that it is annoying to see people buying junk food on food stamps... but I am on food stamps, and the only way you can have enough to eat while avoiding junk food is if you spend a lot of time and effort in the kitchen. Not everyone has that time or the energy to spend that much effort.

Keep in mind food stamps aren't just for the out of work or lazy but the majority of people on disability are also on food stamps, and whatever keeps them from being able to work also often keeps them from being able to spend that much time and energy in the kitchen and certainly keeps them from being able to tend to a garden.

It is hard enough to eat healthy on food stamps when you ARE able to spend a bunch of time and energy in the kitchen or a garden. Healthy food is EXPENSIVE. But it's much, much worse if you must buy foods that do not require much preparation. Even if you only ever bought fruits and veggies you could just rinse and bite into, it still would not be enough to stave off hunger until the food stamps are replenished.

That is the case with me, and in those cases it comes down to a choice between eating healthy foods that will only get you through less than half the month - usually only a week, or eating junk food that will keep you from feeling hungry for the entire month. In my case, I DO choose to go hungry most of the day just to be able to ensure what I DO eat is healthy. But it isn't easy, and most people can't handle the hunger pains.

Let's not be so judgmental. It is very hard to be hungry. It goes against a basic human need.

Completely agree that hunger is no way to live. I was desperately poor after having my first baby and subsisted on just grilled cheese and spaghetti noodles with soya sauce so my baby then eventually babies could eat real nutrition - I looked very anorexic. Luckily, I met some people who taught me how to eat very well on very little money and it helped GREATLY. It's amazing how a few tips can make a big difference.
 
What kinds of food do you eat that makes you gain weight?

Starchy foods, mainly. Potatoes, rice, bananas (I can't eat gluten so pasta, breads, etc is out). I did a 3 months long experiment once, a month and a half with normal amounts of starchy foods along with fruits and veggies and then a month and a half with no starchy foods (this was when I had money for food) and I ate the SAME amount of calories each day, NO extras like butter or soy sauce or anything. I gained 23 pounds during the month and a half where I ate starchy foods and didn't gain anything during the month and a half I avoided them, even though the calories and activity were the same. I did another month and a half of the same daily calories of really fatty stuff like peanut butter, nuts, seeds, etc. I didn't gain anything, even though I was eating more fat in calories than the other two experiments (but my stomach acted up because of way too much protein). Also, I discovered tomatoes make me gain. Not just water weight either, actual weight. No clue why. But they trigger my pain issues to flare up so I avoid them anyway.

I am vegan, but closer to fruitarian since I don't really eat the starchy stuff unless I get so hungry I am getting sick from it (then I will make a vegan potato leek soup that is really cheap and filling even if starchy). Lately I have had to make smoothies out of what little veggies and fruit I do eat because of jaw issues preventing me from eating anything crunchy, it is weird but it seems to abate hunger a little better than eating the same amount in their natural form. *shrug* Whatever works.

This is why food banks don't work for me, because the only thing I am usually able to eat out of those boxes without directly making my health worse is the canned veggies.
 
wait. you were banned and now you're coming back under a different name?

Yeah i even asked the Mods give my old name back.. I know its wrong to come back a differant name. All i ask is another chance and i apologize to all members here for the last time.
 
Yeah i even asked the Mods give my old name back.. I know its wrong to come back a differant name. All i ask is another chance and i apologize to all members here for the last time.

Don't ask mods, you just need talk to Alex and he is admin of this forum.
 
I actually like the system we have now although I would rather see it State funded rather than Federally funded. At least it is administered by state. It just needs reform and oversight.

Agreed, state-funded makes more sense.
 
wait. you were banned and now you're coming back under a different name?

ok here are the cliff notes of what happened years ago:
Steve D posting under "ravensteve"
after various bans for idiotic behavior, steve called a mod an asshole. not much of an issue.
unfotunately Steve then sends me an email. stating and I quote "That asshole roadrunner just banned me for calling him an asshole! roadrunner is an asshole! i just emailed alex told him if he does not unban me i will kill him and i told him you will help me. I will and i kill you and your family if you do not help me kill alex and vamp"

This is a prime example of steve's wackjob behavior. I am not sure if steve ever really emailed that statement to alex. however making that stupid threat regarding my family really pissed me off. So going against my ussual way of dealling with threats, I decided the more civil method would be to inform alex of the threat toward him. That got steve d permanetly banned under the name ravensteve.

just before all this stupid drama unfolded I had secretly invited Steve to join deaf madness(sadly the site is history). Steve invited me to join the site unruly politics. well at DM we were all having ball as we always did, from joking around, to vicious fighting and flame wars, to gorgeous college girls posting topless pictures. well I figured this bonehead had threatened my family so I should find out what steve looks like. So I had some lovely young college women try to get a picture from him. Steve never gave in to these sexy as hell ladies. So fake screen names, a few pictues from a random photobucket and a claim to be that pretty just turned 15 year old in the picture... Steve came running, I think steve had a few beers in him when he start chatting with the pretty 15 year old on yahoo. Steve sent a picture,then the chatting stopped. steve got pissed the girl disappeared and a few drunken threats later,a DM mod deleted the account. So I posted steve's picture on alldeaf. the thread was deleted and vamp asked me were the picture came from.I told him steve thought he was giving the picture to some young teen girl who steve chased after. steve was banned from DM for being steve and that was that.

soon buck dodgers shows up on alldeaf. I do not know what was said, what lies were told but steve begged and conned his way back into alldeaf. Steve was given a second chance and a clean slate with a zero ban history. steve personality sticks out like a sore thumb. I pmed the mods that this buck dodgers was banned ravensteve. was told it was not steve.

now this were thing get crazy!
I will leave out some names: a female ADers stopped being friends with a male ADer. for whatever wacky reason the female ADer contacted police officer AD member Taylor. That female ADer told Taylor a lie that the male ADer she stopped liking was into child sex and kiddie porn. Taylor being a police officer began an investigation into the claim. 14 yearold alldeaf member 2Hot4U now change to dominio harvey was created by a female maryland cop to catch the kiddie porn AD member. well that whole investigation went nowwhere because it was a lie. however steve came running for 2Hot4U! Steve began to pursue 2Hot4U not knowing that the 14 year old thinks he is talking too is really maryland police officers.

meanwhile: steve confesses that buck dodgers and ravensteve are in fact the same person on his 45 birthday. now I had inside information as to just how warped and potentually dangerous steve is. so I set out to get him out for alldeaf forever even if it took me being permanately banned with him. so the flame wars began... then comes the big surprise. Steve creats a thread wanting to know where 2Hot4U is and how he has missed her because he had not heard from her in 48 hours. So I PMed the 2Hot4U to warn that kid. I PMed about steve's threats and even related how he passed his picture to who he thought was a 15 year old. to my relief I was told that 2Hot4U was police. who he was in the photogragh was confirmed. steve had a date to meet 2Hot4U in a Baltimore hotel where a police take down team would be there to arrest him. the police were about to move in was message I recieved. by an odd twist of fate it never happened.steve fled to florida to avoid jail in maryland for solicitation of a minor and various other charges. while he was hiding out in florida I got him to confess on alldeaf, unruly politics and deaf summit. steve was banned from all those sites. steve threatened to sue me for harrassment and other obsurd threats to try to scare me. even according to public records, steve is a convicted felon. yeah steve is a harmlass, first class, prime example of a man, a true model citizen....


I bet this post gets me banned and steve get granted yet another clean slate...
if so,
good bye alldeaf :wave:
 
Listen Sinned!!! I sent you that E Mail cause you kept Harassing me ok!!! I ask you to stop it,, But you wouldnt do that!!! You kept it on,,, Abnd Guess what You send a Cop to my Brothers home now THATS HARRASSING!!! If I get banned it because of you you just like to pick on people cause you dont agree with em. You wouldnt leave me alone You send a pic of the teen girl and Lured me. Thats a very dirty trick you played. You send me to DM to get my Photo taken. If i didnt get my Photo sent to DM you were gonna ban me again. Guess what!!! You tricked me again and Posted my photo everywhere. Youre a con C.C Sinned. Other members deserve the whole truth from you. If you dont like the member you do your very best to lure them in and then threat them and con them. Just like a scam artist does. I would be suprised if Sinned gets someone to pay money to him or hes gonna get him banned. Maybe members might believe you. If you get another member what you gonna do sinned? Trap em with ether money,,Teen Girl pic or threat to get him banned if they dont show a pic of them? Call cops over to their relitives homes? Tell the whole story CC Sinned,,Comon sinned tell them the real story just who you really are? I came here to ask forgiveness and move on cause its the right thing to do. All i can ask if Alex gives me a second chance here. I love all deaf,,Its the only place i can relate to members here. When i say im sorry i really do mean it.If only person needs a ban is you sinned not me. Im very sorry if Alex doesnt believe me.If i get banned again CC YOU WIN AGAIN!! Enjoy your victory party getting me banned you show no remorse what you do people. In fact i think you did this stuff in school being a bully. Members i suggest you read what Bullies do to kids in school. Some of them commit suicide cause they cant deal with bullies bully and harrasing them. Go go ahead get alex ban me i might not live for long. I cant believe people like you excist in this world.
 
Listen Sinned!!! I sent you that E Mail cause you kept Harassing me ok!!! I ask you to stop it,, But you wouldnt do that!!! You kept it on,,, Abnd Guess what You send a Cop to my Brothers home now THATS HARRASSING!!! If I get banned it because of you you just like to pick on people cause you dont agree with em. You wouldnt leave me alone You send a pic of the teen girl and Lured me. Thats a very dirty trick you played. You send me to DM to get my Photo taken. If i didnt get my Photo sent to DM you were gonna ban me again. Guess what!!! You tricked me again and Posted my photo everywhere. Youre a con C.C Sinned. Other members deserve the whole truth from you. If you dont like the member you do your very best to lure them in and then threat them and con them. Just like a scam artist does. I would be suprised if Sinned gets someone to pay money to him or hes gonna get him banned. Maybe members might believe you. If you get another member what you gonna do sinned? Trap em with ether money,,Teen Girl pic or threat to get him banned if they dont show a pic of them? Call cops over to their relitives homes? Tell the whole story CC Sinned,,Comon sinned tell them the real story just who you really are? I came here to ask forgiveness and move on cause its the right thing to do. All i can ask if Alex gives me a second chance here. I love all deaf,,Its the only place i can relate to members here. When i say im sorry i really do mean it.If only person needs a ban is you sinned not me. Im very sorry if Alex doesnt believe me.If i get banned again CC YOU WIN AGAIN!! Enjoy your victory party getting me banned you show no remorse what you do people. In fact i think you did this stuff in school being a bully. Members i suggest you read what Bullies do to kids in school. Some of them commit suicide cause they cant deal with bullies bully and harrasing them. Go go ahead get alex ban me i might not live for long. I cant believe people like you excist in this world.

Well....with all that junk food you eat at Sonic and Pepsi's....don't doubt you'll be around much longer either. The $30 food stamps will go to a NEEDY Family, so, actually that's good.
 
At the above...."I'll meet you on Main Street at sunset...."
 
Well....with all that junk food you eat at Sonic and Pepsi's....don't doubt you'll be around much longer either. The $30 food stamps will go to a NEEDY Family, so, actually that's good.

See what i mean? How can a person feel good about someone gonna commit suicide? Youre just like CC Sinned,, Lets push him to that point,,Just like a bully thinks.
 
See what i mean? How can a person feel good about someone gonna commit suicide? Youre just like CC Sinned,, Lets push him to that point,,Just like a bully thinks.

You let internet words from a stranger dictate your life? Sorry to hear it.
 
You wouldnt understand. I just hope it doesnt happen to you. Im a victim of it.

If I were you, I would quietly slip out while you still can and preserve some sort of self-respect.


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