Baby's reactions to their with cochlear implant

Both, I know who don't use their cis and who use their cis. But I only know who use their cis who got it at late 20's.
 
I know one who is 9 yrs old use her CIs and refuse to meet me or refuse to sign it to me while her mom who is hearing and knows ASL. She looks shocked when she tried to get her and introduce me. Her girl refused to meet me. I told her that it's ok maybe she is not comfortable to sign in front of her peers at school. Her mother seems very nice. She told me that her girl got CI since she was around 2 yrs old.
 
rick48 said:
What makes "sense" is your continued attempts to utilize scare tactics and misrepresentations to discredit the cochlear implant. What are these so called "additional risks", "side effects" and "negative consequences" to implanting an infant?

What really gets me is your attempt to question a parents' love for their child with their informed decision to provide their child with the benefits of a cochlear implant. Do you have any decency? Are you really that bitter and mean spirited? Do you seriously believe that parents who choose a cochlear implant for their child do not love their child for who they are?

You spew the same anti-ci rhetoric that people like Harlan Lane spewed 25 years ago. There are no "longitudal risks" but you never let the facts get in the way. Your arguments were bogus then and all the more bogus now. The studies over the years have consistently demonstrated that benefits of implanting a child as soon as possible after the onset of deafness and there is no longer any credible arguments that cochlear provide benefits.

I have met many parents who have agonized over the cochlear implant decision, who weighed the risks versus the potential rewards but no matter what there decision ultimately was, they were universal in their attempt to do what they thought was in their child's best interests and there was no question of the love they had for their children.

I think there is nothing harder in the world than raising a child, likewise there is nothing more rewarding. However, seeking to provide your child with opportunities, to give them the tools to reach their full potential does not mean you do not accept your child for "who they are".
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Get over yourself. The question was not even directed to you. Looks like the word went out around CI Circle that a member needed back up over on AD.
 
rick48 said:
Forget trying to explain it to her, she refuses to understand it.
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Oh? To date, I haven't seen either you or Kokonut, nor many others, explain the window of opportunity and plasticity of the brain correctly or thoroughly. You simply use it as a catch phrase in an attempt to back up your position without anything more than a superficial understanding of the concept.
 
sallylou said:
How many of you have a CI and don't use it, or know someone who has a CI but doesn't use it? I don't have a CI. I know someone who doesn't use hers. She's late deafened but she's really disappointed with her CI. Perhaps she didn't have realistic expectations. That's a whole issue for another thread.
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I know 3 young adults who were implanted by parental decision as children who no longer use their CI.
 
iowaboy said:
Waiting would limit the potential benefits. We've decided to implant early, bilateral, full array, to use ASL, and to not look back. She's 8 months old. The only reason I would wait until 12 months is because we wanted a third ABR under sedation. Otherwise the surgeon said we could do it now.
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yes, keep ASL because she isn't going to get her language for awhile without it because it take awhile to get a hang of it. not worth holding her back for speech. She'll keep up and be satisfied.

Just remember, researchers will never be totally satisfied with the results unless the child is hearing before they are born. In a few years, they will be saying "those kids who were implanted at 6 months were using old technology, this technology will be better" They will be trashing your child's implant just like they did with hearing aids (not that I care)They've always done that, and always will.
 
A said:
yes, keep ASL because she isn't going to get her language for awhile without it because it take awhile to get a hang of it. not worth holding her back for speech. She'll keep up and be satisfied.

Just remember, researchers will never been totally satisfied with the results unless the child is hearing before they are born. In a few years, they will be saying "those kids who were implanted at 6 months were using old technology, this technology will be better" They will be trashing your child's implant just like they did with hearing aids (not that I care)They've always done that, and always will.
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Absolutely. I've said the same thing time and again. History just keeps repeating itself. The only thing that changes is the actual technological devise,
 
jillio said:
Oh? To date, I haven't seen either you or Kokonut, nor many others, explain the window of opportunity and plasticity of the brain correctly or thoroughly. You simply use it as a catch phrase in an attempt to back up your position without anything more than a superficial understanding of the concept.
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most of us understand it just fine. Just have a different viewpoint and don't think it is all that important enough to put a child at a risk. Also we wouldn't encourage parents to use ASL so they can have some access to Language.
 
A said:
most of us understand it just fine. Just have a different viewpoint and don't think it is all that important enough to put a child at a risk. Also we wouldn't encourage parents to use ASL so they can have some access to Language.
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Yeah, I was referring to those that mistakenly cite it as a reason to support early implantation. And that was my point...those people give it far more weight than it actually deserves because they do not understand the concept.
 
jillio said:
Absolutely. I've said the same thing time and again. History just keeps repeating itself. The only thing that changes is the actual technological devise,
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Even though, I don't care at all , but Sometimes I wonder if they look at deaf people who were raised in oral background with hearing aids and see us as outdated deaf folks because there is not much success in them. It's like how younger kids see our musics as outdated and give us a disgusted look. I do not want deaf people to be treated as a fad. I watched a travel show and saw how younger kids in other countries appreciated and enjoyed traditional folk musics. No one give them disgusted look. No one try told them that their music is outdated and that their music is better. I guess that's why ASL is very popular.
 
BLeGal2 said:
wow I sure stirred up some crap here. haha

If i ever had a deaf child I would use ASL and hearing aids, until they were old enough to decide for themselves if they wanted a ci, if they did then I would help pay for it, but not before they can make their own educated decision about it. I think it should be the child's choice--but not while they are a child. just my opinion.

and I like how strong this topic is here. :)
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BLeGal2 said:
If they were post lingually deaf then yeah sure I'd get them one. Otherwise I'll stick with asl.
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BLeGal2 said:
i wouldn't be waiting. I would be using ASL instead.

and even if i were to get a ci, I would still use baby sign in order to help their language. Hell I would use at least baby sign with a hearing baby even.
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Wait until you have known a lot of people in this situation or actually have a deaf child yourself.

You need to be much more informed before giving your definitive statements on what to do.
 
A said:
Even though, I don't care at all , but Sometimes I wonder if they look at deaf people who were raised in oral background with hearing aids and see us as outdated deaf folks because there is not much success in them. It's like how younger kids see our musics as outdated and give us a disgusted look. I do not want deaf people to be treated as a fad. I watched a travel show and saw how younger kids in other countries appreciated and enjoyed traditional folk musics. No one give them disgusted look. No one try told them that their music is outdated and that their music is better. I guess that's why ASL is very popular.
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U know..I feel that way when some people come in here on AD and tell me that today's deaf children are nothing like us deaf people. In my point of view, we are the same but in different ways.
 
shel90 said:
U know..I feel that way when some people come in here on AD and tell me that today's deaf children are nothing like us deaf people. In my point of view, we are the same but in different ways.
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Yep, that's the main reason why I said it. We are human. And the reason I mention sign language because technologies come and goes, but sign language is here to stay and sign language don't make us feel so outdated (sure the signing may change over time). Just like spoken language is here to stay.
 
A said:
Even though, I don't care at all , but Sometimes I wonder if they look at deaf people who were raised in oral background with hearing aids and see us as outdated deaf folks because there is not much success in them. It's like how younger kids see our musics as outdated and give us a disgusted look. I do not want deaf people to be treated as a fad. I watched a travel show and saw how younger kids in other countries appreciated and enjoyed traditional folk musics. No one give them disgusted look. No one try told them that their music is outdated and that their music is better. I guess that's why ASL is very popular.
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Oh, I'm sure they do. Hence the reason they keep saying "Things have changed; it's not the same as it was then."
 
jillio said:
Yeah, right.:roll:
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Believe what you want, but I am telling you, and everyone here, point blank, this has never happened. You can choose to believe that I am outright lying, for no good reason, but I am telling the truth.
 
faire_jour said:
Believe what you want, but I am telling you, and everyone here, point blank, this has never happened. You can choose to believe that I am outright lying, for no good reason, but I am telling the truth.
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Yeah, and you claim a lot of things that cannot be supported. Same old, same old.
 
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