AT what age you allow?

Boult said:
I hope you are not plagiarizing the story about 13 yrs pretending to be 20 because I have heard this elsewhere in media.
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No and Why would I do that? I have no reason to do that. I am telling it as it happened to my friend so that another guys will take heed and the women who refuse to listen to what their husbands have said no to will pay a price. The blood is on the mother's head.

This happens to alots of guys all the time. The news media only reports a staple of the day's incidents.
 
I cannot even remember when I first had my make-up, I'm sure it was around 13 to 14 years old, My aunt is the one who showed me how to put make-up on my face. I think young girls would look sluty if they have too much make-up on for the age of 7 or under the age of 10. I think something light would make a younger girl look good, like lip gloss those are popluar for young girls and nail polish. ;)
 
Cheri said:
I cannot even remember when I first had my make-up, I'm sure it was around 13 to 14 years old, My aunt is the one who showed me how to put make-up on my face. I think young girls would look sluty if they have too much make-up on for the age of 7 or under the age of 10. I think something light would make a younger girl look good, like lip gloss those are popluar for young girls and nail polish. ;)
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Yeah I agree with ya!
 
My mom encouraged me to start wearing light make-up at age 14 and I think 14 is an appropriate age to start.
 
My twins are 15 1/2 and neither show any intrest in makeup
 
I personally don't like makeup anymore but my parents said when i could afford to pay for this make of place and the sallon we go to than i was welcome to wear makeup they choice to look good on me.the class was 60 dollars keep in mind i didn't get an allowance and only worked once a year so i really had to want to wear makeup to take the course i'm glad i took it i can do other peoples make up and mine beautifully with out it looking cheap but bringing out natural beauty for me all i wear is foundation and when i go out eye shadow and special ocassions the full shabang but i think it was a good idea to go to the make up class i could actually make a carrer out of it now
 
As for me, I would want my daughter to wait until she is 18 years old because I do not want my daughter to dress like a whore at 7 or 9 years old or at age 13 years at all either.

But at 18 it's OK if you she looks like whore???

Sometimes I wonder if you understand what you write, Heath.

I doubt the story about 13 old girl passing as 20 is true. Either that or the 24 y.o is SOME idiot...


Fuzzy
 
I remember i first started wearing make up at the age of 18. Very late age to start wearing make up. My daughter is 9 years old, she loves wearing make up. She only wear make up at home. I wouldn't allow her to wear make up going out in public until she is 16 years old. All of teenagers in Ireland start to wear make up at the age 11 years old, mad i know!! Really it up to the parents to feel if they allow their girls to wear make up. Every parents have different opinion. You know what right for your daughter!!
 
Audiofuzzy said:
As for me, I would want my daughter to wait until she is 18 years old because I do not want my daughter to dress like a whore at 7 or 9 years old or at age 13 years at all either.

But at 18 it's OK if you she looks like whore???
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I think the point is, at 7 and 9 years old, the parents are responsible for their child's appearance. At 18 years old, the daughter is responsible for her own appearance. Also, the same makeup that might look tasteful on an 18-year-old, can look garish and provocative on a 7-year-old.


I doubt the story about 13 old girl passing as 20 is true. Either that or the 24 y.o is SOME idiot...
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During my sub assignments at a middle school, I have seen some very "mature" looking girls. At 13 years old, there is a huge range in appearance of girls. Some are still "kids" in pigtails and sneakers, while some others are "women" in make up, high heels, and exposed bellies.

Of course, guys are still responsible for their actions.
 
Yes exactly, Reba, and He was still responsible for his actions even though that girl really fooled him. That girl my friend introduced me to her, I met her I really thought she was 20, she even said she would turn 21 years old soon. She really had her act together acting like a grown up young lady. For a 13 years old girl she had some big breasts than usual. Some girls do have bigger breasts than normal at age 13. She was a tall 13 year old also too.

Everybody thought she was 20 and treated her like she was her age 20. She was from a different part of the city in the same city and we had no idea who she really was. How somebody found out, not sure but that does not matter because my friend would never have dated a 13 years old girl in the first place !!!

I don't think it is right to call my friend an idiot. She really had everybody fooled even our lady friends or girlfriends and some wives of our friends really thought she was a woman therefore she was treated like a woman.

As for my daughter at age 18 .... Of course I would keep tabs on how my daughter dressed but then she is of legal age. I would show her classical clothes.... warm thick knitted shirt with a turtleneck in the wintertime, flowering beautiful dress in the springtime when the weather actually is warm sunny and nice, and she won't get sick from wearing a flowering dress in the alittle bit of cold air then in the summer time.... she would dress appropriately and still look very nice. I would explain that it is better to have class than to dress like all those another girls. I would say set yourself apart , special and different. Wear classical clothes, conversative and nice, nothing like a whore or trashy than what the young ladies are currently wearing.

I also want to say here that if we had even an idea, something that gave her away that she was not 20 years old then we would have said no to her and stayed the hell away from her.
 
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It is still hard for me to believe that 13 y.old could fool so well a 24 man, unless he wanted to be fooled.

no matter how well developed she was and how mature she acted, 13 y is 13 y.o for people who pay attention (and want to pay attention) surely it was possible to find out about her age.




Fuzzy
 
At the age of 7 and 9 are way too young to wear " adult " make ups. I believe at the age of 15 and up to wear " adult " make ups are fine - IMO - that's when they start showin' off their " pretty " faces to flirt the boys at high school. :lol: That's perfectly normal. At the age of 13 is a little bit too young to me....

When I was 16, I was :eek: at my eyelashes when I saw it in the mirror -- my eyelashes were darn sooo long when I stroked the mascara on. :jaw: I screamed for my mom " Hey Mom ! Look at my eyes. They are tooo long ! " :rofl:

And, of course, my eyelashes still show long eyelashes if, I use the mascara on. I use it once in a while because, of eyeglass I am wearin' and it bugs me to feel my eyelashes strokin' my eyeglass in every time I bat. I don't wanna to trim my eyelashes - No way ! *chuckles*
 
I should add "light" make up in my last post...

I don´t mind to have my daughter to use light make up like shine lip gloss, nail and toe vanish. I watched my mom vanish her toe and nail when I was 8 years old... I copied her...

It doesn´t mean that they are slut when they wear make-up because of their curiously. All what I do is let her know that too much make up is not good on her instead of keep on forbidden
 
Audiofuzzy said:
It is still hard for me to believe that 13 y.old could fool so well a 24 man, unless he wanted to be fooled.

no matter how well developed she was and how mature she acted, 13 y is 13 y.o for people who pay attention (and want to pay attention) surely it was possible to find out about her age.




Fuzzy
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Hey Audiofuzzy, Careful what you say because you may end up dating somebody who lied about her age and she has her act really together. My friend would not decieve himself neither would any of us decieve ourselves at all. We have no reason to do that and we all really thought she was 20 years old.

If you were there, You would have thought the same as us that she was 20 years old when she really was 13 years old. She said she had a job and she had her own money ( Usually $20.'s sometimes she would have $50. with her ) but we found out she went to school then after school she would visit him, my friend and visit with the rest of us as if nothing happened. Until you have been there and done that. You would not believe me because some real life stuff are hard to believe but they did happen. This is one of these things.

She was that good, which is scary.

She did not need to decieve us. Her whole body language, experssions and her looks everything said that she was a 20 years old young woman. You know what I mean? She didn't have to put much effort into acting like a 20 years old woman. Just a couple things to say here and there then she is in which is scary, man ....

Until you have been there and done that, witnessed it for yourself. I am sure these things are happening right now as we speak here in the USA, girls are being able to lie about their age then act a different age in order to get whatever she wants... not necessarily alochol , sex or drugs or anything like that although I am sure some girls do that and some another girls don't do that stuff but the girls want the positive benefits of being a 20 years old young woman already.

That is why it is very important to be sure the girl is who she says she is... You can have a guy who is a friend of yours that works at the bar then he can check the ID card then give you a hidden signal right in front of her without letting her know then introduce her to a couple friends then want to go another place so to get her out of the bar because she is under age then drop her off at a lady's friend house of yours then you leave with the guys to give the ladies some privacy and time alone with the girl to where she can ask the girl alots of questions then find out where she really lives and everything then the ladies take the girl home to her parent's house where she will be safe and I am sure her father would not be too happy. I don't blame him then her mother will give her a real good talking to but the fact remains sometimes people can be fooled and it does happen in real life. Some girls are that good and have eliminated all the things that would give herself away.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
It is still hard for me to believe that 13 y.old could fool so well a 24 man, unless he wanted to be fooled.
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Yeah - I tend to agree on this one.

Erik Erikson did some grond breaking work on stages of human development, summarized here.
http://web.cortland.edu/andersmd/ERIK/sum.HTML

In the ages from 11 to "end of adolescence", the major conflict or need of this period is the develpment of self identity. It it normal for children of this age to be preoccupied with appearance, and it is also very important for them to develop thier own sense of morality and identity separate from their parents. That's partially why being over-protective tends to backfire at this age. If a parent - IMHO - has done thier job earlier in the child's life instilling cores values, I think the make-up thing won't be a huge source of conflict. Your child will probably want to experiment at about the same time as you feel comfortable with it.

At the time Erikson did his work, it was somewhat unusual for adolescents to be sexually active. I wonder what he would think about teens today? I wonder if the promiscuity of today's teens would be seen as an impediment to the development of true personal identity? Hmmmm????
 
Audiofuzzy said:
It is still hard for me to believe that 13 y.old could fool so well a 24 man, unless he wanted to be fooled.

no matter how well developed she was and how mature she acted, 13 y is 13 y.o for people who pay attention (and want to pay attention) surely it was possible to find out about her age.




Fuzzy
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As a freshman in high school even with wearing no makeup i passed as a college freshman
 
I have noticed that in white and hispanic girls they tend to be able to pass for a 20-21 year old young woman with the right make-up skills in the mirror and sometimes no make-up skills are needed. Some girls are able to control their emotions as to cover up their true identity. Girls today are delevoping more rapidly than ever and this did not use to be true in the old days where girls were still girls. Today we have alots of girls acting like women so sometimes you can tell who is who. I don't pay attention to those things but I am very aware and just letting you guys know these things do happen from time to time. That is why it is very important to know who is who for example when you are in college then it is no problem because in college most of the ladies are over 18 to 21 years old. You still have to worry about alochol and if she is not yet 21 years old though. It is always a good idea to be in an environment where the ages of people are clearly marked so to increase your dating chances and lessen the risk of un-necessary chances that you never wanted in the first place.
 
I will allow my girls to wear make up at either 14 to 16 yrs old, only light one. But too heavy, I wouldnt like unless they become 18, its their choose to do anything with the make up.. I dont wear make up, just my eyes same like, shadows, mascara and eyeliner, lip gloss and nail polish thats all...
 
The real issue here is little girls being to grown up. I think the comments about not wearing to much and how its applied matter more than age. Playing pretend is one thing. Trying to be a teen is another. Some moms just think it's cute or popular and don't think about the dangers. Pre-teens are having sex. And unfortunely there are lots of predaters out there. Mr. Z. sees lots of them every day. Scares me to death.
 
Heath, I have seen Maury Povich shows done with girls like that.
One CAN tell if one pay attention, how old are they.
No matter how developed, how mature behaviour, make-up, clothes.

I'm sorry I still have a hard time believing it's so difficult to see their true age.
But I am not gonna argue this.



maybe I can see it but you don't - I don't know.

But one more thing - regardless of looking mature,
usually when one is lying (and she was) there are holes in his/her story which could provide hints to an attentive person that something is fishy here. It should be enough to want be careful and start ask questions.

When you meet a new person you should ask simple question like "where do you live, can I take you home??" or, "can I pick you up from work?"
That can be a good source of clues.. particularly when the answer is most likely "no".. or evasive...

And with this the road to discovering one's true age shouldn't be difficult.


Fuzzy
 
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