As more toddlers get cochlear implants, they face a strange new world

Lighthouse77 said:
my point is CI is not perfect from natural hearing.

CODA can pick up a language easily even though they were never taught.

But CI child have to keep on working and working on her listening skills.
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And my point is that they learn to hear so that they CAN pick up language they were never taught. That is the whole point. My daughter comes home everyday having learning new words from the kids around her. She is picking up language, not just being taught
 
We go round and round, don't we??/ Fact is that the implant works for many and it ALSO doesn't work for some. There are various reasons for that , and not everything has an answer. In my case, however, I can have a conversation with my 12 year old son in another room and he can carry that conversation just like a hearing person. Put another child that I know of with a CI in that very same situation, and he simply cannot do it. Perhaps it was beause he was much older when he was implanted, maybe because he has deaf parents, - I don't know the answers to these questions. All I do know is that personally, for my child, when he wears his implant-it works for him.
 
faire_jour said:
And my point is that they learn to hear so that they CAN pick up language they were never taught. That is the whole point. My daughter comes home everyday having learning new words from the kids around her. She is picking up language, not just being taught
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I just don't understand how people make excuses like "oh he was just implanted late. If only I implanted him sooner, he would do better" when they are behind their peers.. and yet some CODA who grew up with no access to spoken languages for the first few years of his life with can keep up with his peers.
 
I think that the misunderstanding here is that parents of deaf children don't know what it's like to be deaf, never having experienced it first hand. It's just not in their realm of experience.
 
sallylou said:
I think that the misunderstanding here is that parents of deaf children don't know what it's like to be deaf, never having experienced it first hand. It's just not in their realm of experience.
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My thoughts exactly
 
Lighthouse77 said:
I just don't understand how people make excuses like "oh he was just implanted late. If only I implanted him sooner, he would do better" when they are behind their peers.. and yet some CODA who grew up with no access to spoken languages for the first few years of his life with can keep up with his peers.
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Well I am a CODA and I was speech and language delayed until I was in 6th grade. I had to go to speech 3x a week to "catch" up, as well as my siblings and some other CODA children. It's not so simple
 
Bilingual children who don't speak English at home are often behind their peers in the early grades. These kids catch up and have the benefit of being bilingual. Same with ASL.
 
sallylou said:
I think that the misunderstanding here is that parents of deaf children don't know what it's like to be deaf, never having experienced it first hand. It's just not in their realm of experience.
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And some deaf people have never seen deaf children with CI's easily understanding spoken language.

It goes both ways.
 
my view CI waste time because my mates have CI and not spoken training years ago. Other mate say CI hear like as robot and not perfect hear voice.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
I just don't understand how people make excuses like "oh he was just implanted late. If only I implanted him sooner, he would do better" when they are behind their peers.. and yet some CODA who grew up with no access to spoken languages for the first few years of his life with can keep up with his peers.
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The truth is that earlier implanted kids DO do better. The research out there clearly shows that.

CODA's can hear from the start, they hear language everywhere they go, that is totally different from a profoundly deaf infant. They can hear the grocery store clerk, and the tv, but sometimes that isn't enough and their language suffers.
 
FJ, I don't appreciate someone hearing on this forum telling me what it's like to be deaf. You're not deaf. You're daughter is deaf. No matter how hard you try to understand what it's like to be deaf, you don't know what it's like. You're hearing. Own it.
 
sallylou said:
FJ, I don't appreciate someone hearing on this forum telling me what it's like to be deaf. You're not deaf. You're daughter is deaf. No matter how hard you try to understand what it's like to be deaf, you don't know what it's like. You're hearing. Own it.
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And you don't know what it is like growing up deaf AND able to hear. You need to own that. My daughter's story is totally different than yours.
 
What I always find amusing is that parents usually start out "my child is deaf... look like I am going to have to learn sign language," but as soon as doctors give them alternative options, then the oral-only approach rears its ugly head...

Might be one of those cases where being educated hurts more than it benefits...
 
souggy said:
What I always find amusing is that parents usually start out "my child is deaf... look like I am going to have to learn sign language," but as soon as doctors give them alternative options, then the oral-only approach rears its ugly head...

Might be one of those cases where being educated hurts more than it benefits...
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I hope this is not refering to me because we are far from oral only. I work my ass off everyday to make sure my child has access to every tool she could need to be successful.
 
faire_jour said:
I hope this is not refering to me because we are far from oral only. I work my ass off everyday to make sure my child has access to every tool she could need to be successful.
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No. Ever heard of "exception to the rule"? You're one of them. You're an exception to the rule.

Seldom people are willing to be bilingual.
 
I've personally heard two CI "failure" stories, In 2006 when I was considering a CI, I met a guy whose grandson had a CI at a party my parents went to around Xmas time. He said though the grandson has a CI, he doesn't speak very well so he's disappointed in the CI. He was impressed with my speech and I had no CI at the time.

The more recent story is from my physical therapist when I was recovering from a severe infection, she asked me if that thing over my ear was a CI.. I was suprised as most people don't know a CI when they see it. She told me she used to have a 3 year old client who was implanted young. His parents never could get him to wear it so they evenutally signed him up for an ASL program because it was clear he wasn't picking up speech.

I don't know of any personal CI success story or I'd be posting them now.
 
deafskeptic said:
I've personally heard two CI "failure" stories, In 2006 when I was considering a CI, I met a guy whose grandson had a CI at a party my parents went to around Xmas time. He said though the grandson has a CI, he doesn't speak very well so he's disappointed in the CI. He was impressed with my speech and I had no CI at the time.

The more recent story is from my physical therapist when I was recovering from a severe infection, she asked me if that thing over my ear was a CI.. I was suprised as most people don't know a CI when they see it. She told me she used to have a 3 year old client who was implanted young. His parents never could get him to wear it so they evenutally signed him up for an ASL program because it was clear he wasn't picking up speech.

I don't know of any personal CI success story or I'd be posting them now.
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See, and I don't see those as failures. It is still possible that those kids got plenty of benefit, just not running spoken language. It is perfectly fine to have a CI and learn through visual language.
 
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