Arizona to Secede?

Jiro said:
DC Gun Ban. Japanese Internment Camp. 18th Amendment. New Orleans gun siezure during Hurricane Katrina.

these were against the people's will and the Constitution. so where's the overthrow? *looking around*
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Tea anyone?

When the Supreme Court fails to uphold the Constitution, what is the next step (there is one - and one I don't like to mention).

After repeals do not work .....
 
Steinhauer said:
Tea anyone?

When the Supreme Court fails to uphold the Constitution, what is the next step (there is one - and one I don't like to mention).
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which is why people like you are in the minority. a very very tiny minority. thanks God *wipe my forehead*
 
Jiro said:
which is why people like you are in the minority. a very very tiny minority. thanks God *wipe my forehead*
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Not really. Have you been paying attention at all?

Civil Disobedience, that is the next step. It is how segregation laws were defeated.

Did you think I was going to pull a Che Guerva?
 
Steinhauer said:
Not really. Have you been paying attention at all?

Civil Disobedience, that is the next step. It is how segregation laws were defeated.

Did you think I was going to pull a Che Guerva?
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yup. you gave me a good scare. :lol:

the segregation laws were then ruled unconstitutional. That was great - a progress. a step forward to unity and equality.

Secession? Do you think that's a step forward?
 
souggy said:
Wirelessly posted

How can you restore the Constitution when no two person have the same interpretation?
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that's why we now have 9 judges. the side is won by majority vote.
 
Jiro said:
that's why we now have 9 judges. the side is won by majority vote.
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That's why all these revolutionary talks and secession talks don't make a lot of sense.

So yeah... you broke away and restored what you think is right, and ended up suppressing other people's ideas of freedom in place of your own. So how are the people any more free than they were before?
 
Jiro said:
love that little humor that Justice Scalia wrote - "I am sure that poetic license can overcome all that — but you do not need legal advice for that."

Got a good chuckle out of that. :lol:
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Yep, very witty.:lol:
 
Steinhauer said:
Here, let me take you by your hand and explain what you missed and "thought" you understood.


again.....


ah! permitting secession .... hmmmmm

My foot is absolutely terrific. . save those bandages for yourself.

Now, if I have to define "permitting" ... I will be happy to explain, in nitty gritty detail .. what this man said.

Apparently, it is beyond your level of comprehension as you have demonstrated time after time.
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You are a lost cause. You must really enjoy making yourself look less than intelligent.
 
jillio said:
Texas signed away their right to secede in the war of 1812.QUOTE]

That is kinda impossible.

But as for a right to secede......Well anyone can. But they may have to fight for it.
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Jiro said:
here - An Ordinance, Declaring the Ordinance of Secession Null and Void March 15, 1866


Narrative History of Texas Annexation


Conclusion - it supported Jillio's statement below



Any more question?
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Yep. That was settled several pages ago. It is really a shame that there are people that are so wrapped up in their own little delusional existence that they continue to deny what has been proven over and over. All in an attempt to make themselves appear intelligent and well informed. Sad that they don't realize they are getting exactly the opposite result.:laugh2:
 
Jiro said:
uh............................ I'm going to give you a chance to redeem yourself. Think very hard about what you just said there.
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Methinks it is a loosing battle. :giggle: Brain is not engaged before words are typed.:D
 
yizuman said:
One day, to quote Dick Cheney "The US Constitution is just a G Damn piece of paper", the Constitution as we know it will one day disappear and replace with Totalitarian rule, a One World Government, as it were.

Yiz
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You might want to think about it before quoting Dick. He doesn't have the most credibility or respect.:laugh2: However, he is good for a laugh.
 
jillio said:
Not impossible at all. Right there in history. And it has already been cited.
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Well, it's impossible if they're successful.

If it's not, well, not sure what would happen afterwards. That's up to the government to decide to do with a failed secession.
 
souggy said:
That's why all these revolutionary talks and secession talks don't make a lot of sense.

So yeah... you broke away and restored what you think is right, and ended up suppressing other people's ideas of freedom in place of your own. So how are the people any more free than they were before?
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Exactly. Only a very distorted thought process is incapable of seeing the obvious.
 
souggy said:
There's consequences for everything. ;)

If Texas unsuccessfully seceded, the Treaty of 1812 will be used against them.
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Yep. The very Treaty they signed that gave away their right to secede.:lol:
 
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