Arizona’s illegal-immigration law heads to Supreme Court. Will justices strike it dow

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kokonut said:
With Romney as President I'm sure this law will kick into high gear rather than have a foot-dragging govt.
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Wow, what's wishful thinking. :lol:
 
CrazyPaul said:
Re-read post #73. # 4 - transportation only (one way trip) - $1,000 per person to be transported back to Mexico so that doesn't include court fees which is # 3 - legal proceeding - $817. Food and shelter is # 2 - detention - $3,355.

Four stages of deportation process: apprehension, detention, legal proceeding and transportation
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I think it could be diesel fuel cost, maintenance/service, armed officers that add up to cost, especially if use bus or big van.

I don't know if they use airplane or bus to deport, however international airplane is very expensive.
 
Jiro said:
yes... part of their incomes are withheld for taxes.
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If they are non-citizens how have they been paying taxes?? They receive money under the table if they are here illegally!! Otherwise their employers would have been shut down!!
 
Jiro said:
nope. anybody can get it.... assuming that they meet legal requirements.

Foreign Workers And Social Security Numbers


Social Security Numbers For Noncitizens
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Did you just read what you wrote? It makes no sense. You are required by law to present your social security number to your employer in order that taxes will be withheld!! One must also be a legal US citizen to be legally employed in the US unless you are approved by the government as a migrant worker, student or other legal status. You better re-read what you wrote or quoted obviously without reading or understanding!!
 
airportcop said:
Did you just read what you wrote? It makes no sense. You are required by law to present your social security number to your employer in order that taxes will be withheld!! You better re-read what you wrote or quoted obviously without reading or understanding!!
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some people who are here legally do not qualified to work in here.... like my mom.
 
airportcop said:
If they are non-citizens how have they been paying taxes?? They receive money under the table if they are here illegally!! Otherwise their employers would have been shut down!!
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so..... why are you blaming non-citizens? it's obviously employers who are scamming government for greed.... you know - they're American citizens.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Like I said, I will find out from my friend who goes to Mexico frequently. I will ask him tonight at work.
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so your friends go to Mexico and back illegally?
 
Foxrac said:
No, it is MORE LOSS for you than Jiro does.

The police can ask for document but they can't make arrest, though.
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Incorrect! Some may still be arrested depending on their status or what they were stopped for!
 
TXgolfer said:
Well you can spin it however you want. If I cared I would link any number of posts where you complained about the racial profiling involved in the upheld portion. But I don't :)

There are three objectives I wanted this law to accomplish....I will not go into them, but I will say I am confident all objectives will be met through the upheld portion. I am not overjoyed with the ruling but I am fairly happy with it.
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kokonut said:
Absolutely. Most people did not know about the other laws but were quite familiar with the AZ law that was not struck down. That was the most contentious law of them all
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aw that's so cute... both of youse. tag-teaming and butt-patting each other even though this was a major blow to you and Governor Brewer.

again... what was upheld has always been allowed in the first place so there was no win or loss there.
 
Foxrac said:
I think it could be diesel fuel cost, maintenance/service, armed officers that add up to cost, especially if use bus or big van.

I don't know if they use airplane or bus to deport, however international airplane is very expensive.
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Many are flown on airplanes as I see it personally at the airport frequently. We have to sign the ICE officers in since they are armed.
 
Jiro said:
aw that's so cute... both of youse. tag-teaming and butt-patting each other even though this was a major blow to you and Governor Brewer.

again... what was upheld has always been allowed in the first place so there was no win or loss there.
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Like I said.....Not a big deal. I think AZ will be able to accomplish it's goals through the portion that was upheld. Not best case scenario.....but it is workable. There are some differences in the portion upheld from before. If you choose not to see acknowledge them that is fine with me. :)
 
on that side note.....

Obama’s Record-High Deportations Draw Hispanic Scorn - ABC News
Fifty-nine percent of Latinos said they disapprove of the president’s approach to removing illegal immigrants, more than double the number who said they approved in Pew’s nationwide survey.

Among Latino registered voters, the sentiment was nearly as strong, with 52 percent disapproving of the Obama administration’s handling of deportations.

Since 2009, the annual average number of deportations has approached 400,000, according to the Department of Homeland Security. That’s double the annual average during President George W. Bush’s first term and 30 percent higher than the average when he left office.

Meanwhile, the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States has hit a decade low because of the down economy and stepped-up enforcement efforts.
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Jiro said:
so..... why are you blaming non-citizens? it's obviously employers who are scamming government for greed.... you know - they're American citizens.
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Who said I was blaming non-citizens besides you?! Fine and shut down companies employing illegals!
 
TXgolfer said:
Like I said.....Not a big deal. I think AZ will be able to accomplish it's goals through the portion that was upheld. Not best case scenario.....but it is workable. There are some differences in the portion upheld from before. If you choose not to see acknowledge them that is fine with me. :)
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acknowledge what? like I said - it has been allowed in the first place. this was nothing for me to cheer about. workable? sure. disappointing for ya'all? very.

this Supreme Court ruling is a stark reminder for all states to tread carefully. This can easily be overturned if Arizona does not tread carefully. :cool2:
 
Sadly, the part they approved is the part that will allow LEO to use their own judgment, based on the appearance of being illegal - meaning Hispanic. It was the one thing in this law I really didn't care for. If I lived in AZ, I would stay out of the sun.
 
saywhatkid said:
Sadly, the part they approved is the part that will allow LEO to use their own judgment, based on the appearance of being illegal - meaning Hispanic. It was the one thing in this law I really didn't care for. If I lived in AZ, I would stay out of the sun.
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that's ok with me. I'm sure that Arizona especially Sheriff Arpaio will tread very carefully not to anger Supreme Court into overturning this provision.
 
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