Arizona’s illegal-immigration law heads to Supreme Court. Will justices strike it dow

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TXgolfer said:
Ah, but you have states willing to accept this burden. :)
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but.... it's illegal as according to Constitution for state government to perform federal duty....

don't you think it's much more prudent use of resource and taxpayers' money on shutting down illegal immigration's main source of food rather than casting a wide net and sifting thru each fish?
 
Jiro said:
but.... it's illegal as according to Constitution for state government to perform federal duty....
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Perhaps....that remains to be seen.

don't you think it's much more prudent use of resource and taxpayers' money on shutting down illegal immigration's main source of food rather than casting a wide net and sifting thru each fish?
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Sure if that would work.....But it doesn't. I have explained this to you several times.
 
TXgolfer said:
Perhaps....that remains to be seen.

Sure if that would work.....But it doesn't. I have explained this to you several times.
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you're right that it didn't work even though it is very easy for state government to pursue that way... but no..... they wasted millions and millions of taxpayers' dollars just to quibble around with federal government and courts instead of simply passing a more stringent laws on employers hiring illegals because after all.... the state government is the one who gave permission for employer to operate in its state... not federal government.
 
Jiro said:
you're right that it didn't work even though it is very easy for state government to pursue that way... but no..... they wasted millions and millions of taxpayers' dollars just to quibble around with federal government and courts instead of simply passing a more stringent laws on employers hiring illegals because after all.... the state government is the one who gave permission for employer to operate in its state... not federal government.
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As I have explained many times.....enforcement against the employer will not work. There may be a success here or there, but it will in no way solve the problem. You are free to disagree if you wish but I have a lifetime of experience in a labor oriented field within a border state so forgive me if I think my opinion holds more value.

People on the border don't see this as a waste of $$$. Perhaps if the federal government had done it's job court action would not be necessary. It's a shame our federal government has allowed politics to decide which laws it will enforce.

I do find it quite comical that you are against state governments enforcing immigration laws but you WANT to put that burden on private businesses. :lol:
 
TXgolfer said:
As I have explained many times.....enforcement against the employer will not work.
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No I do not recall your explanations about this issue.

TXgolfer said:
There may be a success here or there, but it will in no way solve the problem. You are free to disagree if you wish but I have a lifetime of experience in a labor oriented field within a border state so forgive me if I think my opinion holds more value.
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since you said there are success here or there... then it would be of better use of their time and money to improve the existing laws to increase its success.

so why is it that enforcement against the employers do not work well? and what would work better in your opinion?

TXgolfer said:
People on the border don't see this as a waste of $$$. Perhaps if the federal government had done it's job court action would not be necessary. It's a shame our federal government has allowed politics to decide which laws it will enforce.
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well that goes back to my previous question - "Are you sure that due to very limited resource and budgets, you still want the federal government to swamped with trivial cases when there are much more important cases to deal with such as powerful drug gang/cartel members, terrorists, etc whom have illegally entered this country?"

Cry me a river if they don't like waiting in the line.

TXgolfer said:
I do find it quite comical that you are against state governments enforcing immigration laws but you WANT to put that burden on private businesses. :lol:
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the law already exists in place so why reinvent the laws which adds unnecessary burden to federal government that would adversely impact our national security? what a waste of taxpayers' money.
 
Jiro said:
No I do not recall your explanations about this issue.
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Not surprising

since you said there are success here or there... then it would be of better use of their time and money to improve the existing laws to increase its success.
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No

well that goes back to my previous question - "Are you sure that due to very limited resource and budgets, you still want the federal government to swamped with trivial cases when there are much more important cases to deal with such as powerful drug gang/cartel members, terrorists, etc whom have illegally entered this country?"
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People in border states don't see our right to protect ourselves as trivial.

the law already exists in place so why reinvent the laws which adds unnecessary burden to federal government that would adversely impact our national security? what a waste of taxpayers' money.
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Again, many border states are seeking to take that burden upon themselves. They are attempting to alleviate the burden of the federal government.
 
Jiro said:
ah... it's a very tricky issue when it comes to children. we certainly do not want to see any children getting harmed during detainment.



oh... but... as you stated in previous post - "As a police officer I took and oath to protect and defend the constitution of the US and uphold the laws in place."

then you should follow the laws. since you have nothing to charge them with... then the feds can't do anything about it.
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They are breaking the law by coming here and remaining here illegally!!!
 
TXgolfer said:
Again, many border states are seeking to take that burden upon themselves. They are attempting to alleviate the burden of the federal government.
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How will they alleviate the burden of the federal government? were they specific about it?

btw - you missed my two questions.

so why is it that enforcement against the employers do not work well? and what would work better in your opinion?
 
Jiro said:
How will they alleviate the burden of the federal government? were they specific about it?

btw - you missed my two questions.

so why is it that enforcement against the employers do not work well? and what would work better in your opinion?
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I didn't miss them. I have given detailed answers to them in the past. If you don't remember them then it is probably a waste of type to repeat the answers. :)
 
TXgolfer said:
I didn't miss them. I have given detailed answers to them in the past. If you don't remember them then it is probably a waste of type to repeat the answers. :)
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how convenient. well then... :wave:
 
Jiro said:
I found it!

http://www.alldeaf.com/current-even...ate-passes-illegal-immigration-crackdown.html

You in fact do support making laws and penalties more stringent on employers hiring illegals.
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Nope, that is not it.... But yes I support multiple approaches.

and about your comment regarding states seeking to take the burden upon themselves.. here's why it won't work - http://www.alldeaf.com/war-politica...n-arizonas-immigration-law-4.html#post1576445
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No, that is not an example of a state taking the burden....
 
Not surprised for pro-businesses don't want stricter immigration law that affect on their businesses.
 
airportcop said:
They are breaking the law by coming here and remaining here illegally!!!
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Illegal immigrants are not my major concern.

Deny them from getting jobs are most efficient and they have no way to live in USA without any money.
 
Foxrac said:
Illegal immigrants are not my major concern.

Deny them from getting jobs are most efficient and they have no way to live in USA without any money.
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I can live with that. Makes sense to me.
 
airportcop said:
I can live with that. Makes sense to me.
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Because you are American and ability to get support from families.

I know some illegal immigrants return to their orign of countries on their own after unable to find jobs, it is cheaper to see them to march back to countries instead have immigration law enforcement to arrest and detain them.
 
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