Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

Dictionary definition:

transitive verb: spayed, spay·ing, spays.

To remove surgically the ovaries of (an animal).
 
Reba said:
Dictionary definition:

transitive verb: spayed, spay·ing, spays.

To remove surgically the ovaries of (an animal).
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Interesting... But I am not doing the spay to my public area for prevent pregnancy no thanks hehe! I wonder the penectomy would be one of them?
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Interesting... But I am not doing the spay to my public area for prevent pregnancy no thanks hehe! I wonder the penectomy would be one of them?
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Spaying is for female animals (males don't have ovaries).

Male animals are neutered by removing the testicles. I'm sure you're not interested in that either.
 
Reba said:
Spaying is for female animals (males don't have ovaries).

Male animals are neutered by removing the testicles. I'm sure you're not interested in that either.
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lol ur right, I would never been interested to removing my penis or my tests lol!
 
It seem to me that you denied my post so I repeat my post here.

christlovedeaf said:
Why you think I have no feelings? You are feeling just for women,
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Yes I feeling for women because it's them who It´s them who carry unborn baby to full term, not men. Right?

It´s them who manage with money issues to take care of baby where the fathers of babies doesn´t support them. Right?

It´s them who stay home with babies, not fathers. Right?

Children cost a lot of money and responsibities... I thought you know about this because you are the father of 2 girls... ?

but no feeling for men and babies.
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:confused: what do you mean? It's not men who carry the baby full term.. Right?

babies? Where have I say anything against babies? *scratch my head*

I don't care what websites saying, bec there are websites about other side also. I have met several women going thru. Like most of them saying, women feeling about themselves than anyone else. And many couldn't have child, bec of damages. There are lot of POVs of it.
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Sure, I have seen many and share with them in real life more than websites either but it's mainly important to find out how many % rates/statastic with the help from websites. :) I am not saying that websites are 100% correct but I only suggest you to compare if you want to know how many % etc.

There are more killing babies by sleeping around than anything else. If women wise enough, NOT to have babies, then stop, sleeping around, if you can't afford child(ren). I don't care about other side, as long a child to be born, go for adoptions, or if happens a child is born at home or somewhere, go to the police, or firestations. It's alot better than murdering as a holocaust style for the babies.
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I do not see anything where they kill babies? I only see is fetus. :dunno:

A woman has the right to choose who she want to sex with. Her body is her property, not you, me or everyone. I do beleive if a woman who want to sleep with a lot of guys then use sex protection but it's not alway 100% safety. Anyway, what she do what she want is none of your business. It look like that you allow men sleeping around is okay for you, not women?

I respect women's decision either they want to keep baby or not. Remember each woman is different either she is willing to keep baby or not.

Reason:
Money issues
Not feel ready to be responsibile mother
severe deformed babies
life-treatening
struggle to be a single mother after learn the father of unborn baby dump her.

I support those reasons because it's better than let the child suffer...

I am against if women consider abortion as a birth control.
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Pacman said:
I think that need to ignore them.

It does same with one girl at my high school and she had been aborted her newborn after got preggy so accident then that's her choice, also her parent cannot afford to treat babies or pay child support. It was from condom when had wild sex with other guys.
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Yes it was happened the same to my friend's 15 years old niece in 2003. She & her 20 years old boyfriend use condom for over one year then suddenly pregnant. She had a baby boy aged 16. She is not only one and first person who got pregnant after use condom a lot. Lucky, her and her boyfriend's parents support her fully with baby and let her continue with school which is great. They are still live together under the roof of parent's house. They will get married next year.

I can image niece would go bad path without parent's loving support. Accord your post, I can understand that the parents cannot afford to support their daughter with child with money issues or give their jobs up to watch their daughter's baby to let their daughter continue with school. I also can understand that their daughter choose to abort her fetus than carry to full term and give up for an adoption because it's her choice and decision. It look like that the parents and girl agree each other for abort baby which is good to protect their brilliant future.
 
Maria said:
Birth control is 99.3% effective. So, it is safe.
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As what you said 99.3% - 0.07% leftover... Good... What should they do with unplanned pregnancy? Should they face it and continue to destory their brilliant future then?

Should they own their children as their property?

To me, if you face with unplanned pregnancy then you need to make a decision either you want abortion, adoption or parenting? It's a decision is YOUR, not everyone because you are the one who live with the rest of your life.

The mothers or parents are the guardians of their children, not own their children. If a mother decide to keep a child which mean is she accept her responsibly as parent (guardian) for take care of their child.
 
dreama said:
If you do not wish to have any babies you can always get yourself spayed. Now that IS 100 percent affective. I wanted to do that but my folks didn't like the idea.
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Yeah, not just women but men as well... (see Reba's post to Puyo). :)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
It seem to me that you denied my post so I repeat my post here.

Yes I feeling for women because it's them who It´s them who carry unborn baby to full term, not men. Right?right

It´s them who manage with money issues to take care of baby where the fathers of babies doesn´t support them. Right?SOME don't and some men support them, SOME women don't

It´s them who stay home with babies, not fathers. Right? if hubby work, when comes home, he will do some also. There are some like that.

Children cost a lot of money and responsibities... I thought you know about this because you are the father of 2 girls... ? I do, but that is not meant to get rid of the baby if can't afford, and I have seen sooo many who try everyway to have baby to live and enjoying life instead of killing it



:confused: what do you mean? It's not men who carry the baby full term.. Right? There are variety of circumstantial, the wisest women and men, let me put it this way and it is a true story, teenagers, a girl got preg, and boy will do everyway to help her, but the girl's parent does not want him do anything with her and a child and giving it for adoption. The boy fight in court bec he has a heart for the child, but girl is fear by her parents. and it was a messed. He won the court, bec it is his responsiblity and bec it is his child also. I agree with that. Some parents want baby to be aborted or also call murder, child is fighting. Doesn't matter if men in full term, as long men help women whomever both are responsible and accept the accountability

babies? Where have I say anything against babies? *scratch my head* You worry about women, baby in her womb, is more like, women is concern, not baby in her womb. This is where does not make any sense at all. If a preg woman was abused by her man and killed the baby in her womb will be charged as a murder, mmm, abortion means different. To me, it sure doesn't.



Sure, I have seen many and share with them in real life more than websites either but it's mainly important to find out how many % rates/statastic with the help from websites. :) I am not saying that websites are 100% correct but I only suggest you to compare if you want to know how many % etc. I have seen and read both side arguments, and still go for pro life side. Bec by saying, seeing some commit suicide, most commit suicide is after a women aborted the baby. Bec bring them heartaches.



I do not see anything where they kill babies? I only see is fetus. :dunno:

A woman has the right to choose who she want to sex with. Her body is her property, not you, me or everyone. I do beleive if a woman who want to sleep with a lot of guys then use sex protection but it's not alway 100% safety. Anyway, what she do what she want is none of your business. It look like that you allow men sleeping around is okay for you, not women?

I respect women's decision either they want to keep baby or not. Remember each woman is different either she is willing to keep baby or not.
That's where I have a problem with, if a woman want it or not, that is want baby to live or to die.
Reason:
Money issues
Not feel ready to be responsibile mother
severe deformed babies
life-treatening
struggle to be a single mother after learn the father of unborn baby dump her.

I support those reasons because it's better than let the child suffer...

I am against if women consider abortion as a birth control.
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I have seen many deformed child and people, and parents has a lot of love. To me, by aborting it, that is NO love, bec looking for "perfect" child, and life threatening is very low. billion of billions of babies were murdered/aborted, and don't tell me that billions of billions of women are in life threatening.
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christlovedeaf said:
Where did you find me saying spayed is the same as abortion, I know they are different.
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LOL!
Well, i dont understand why anybody in here are using the
word "spayed"...its for animals really...like Reba said.
Spayed is for female animals and the word "neutered is
for male animals. oh well....:dunno:
 
Defee said:
LOL!
Well, i dont understand why anybody in here are using the
word "spayed"...its for animals really...like Reba said.
Spayed is for female animals and the word "neutered is
for male animals. oh well....:dunno:
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haha, I know. Only thing it have it tied or want to end of preg either for men and/or women. That's all to it. They will still argue, it cost money, so cheaper to kill babies.
 
christlovedeaf said:
I agree more with Puyo. Who pay the price? As you shared what you watched, I agree with Cheri. Sex does have consequences. Simple is that, stop sleeping around by knowing, not to have child(ren). Ladies should keep their legs cross. Always putting, like oh poor woman this, poor woman that, then several women teeheeing, then hop in bed again and got preg again, oh poor woman this, poor woman that, boo hoo attitude. MM, sounds like, babies, so what, we need to worry about women, not babies. That to me, is a LAME EXCUSE. Not shunned the ladies down, but constantly worrying about themselves than worrying about the child or the need of a child and the cost for being pregnant.
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I somewhat agree with you, somewhat disagree, It takes two to tango, beside having sex comes with responsiblities the same way as having a baby, no differences, if one doesn't wish to get pregnant, then don't have sex. :)
 
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