Annoying ignorant hearing people stories

Yes, and your account is currently delinquent. I will expect the monkey hat to be shipped ASAP, as collateral, until payment in received. Otherwise...

Not the sock monkey hat!!! He has his own thread!!!
 
Not the sock monkey hat!!! He has his own thread!!!

Yes. That is a small price to pay. I demand it! I deserve it!!! I...I...I...on your knees!!!!!!!

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Actually, one of them gave a phonics lesson here the other day. It was on one of my posts showing what caulking is.

And they gave a lecture to Travis on how to pronounce caulking.

I am still wondering if that is what he really asked. :hmm:

(Sometimes, I fear I really do have language dysfunction when it comes to my reading skills.)

Ok, I admit, this pissed me off. The reference above is clearly about how I had replied to Travis' question: "sound cauling or walking?". I believed that he was asking what the word "caulking" sounds like and yes, not knowing his full background, I assumed he (like many deafies) knows sound and wanted to know how it was pronounced (either auditorily or visually). So, I responded 'sound walking with a 'k' sound for the c'. That can hardly be considered a "lecture" - it was simply an answer to what I thought was a question open to anyone.

I may have been wrong in assuming I understood what Travis was asking and, if that was the case, I would have apologized no problem. However, you are wrong to assume that I was making some sort of stereotypical 'hearie' response. Yes, I hear, but I am not an 'evil hearie' who came to AD to teach anyone anything. I have thick skin but, believe it nor not, someone who hears does not like to be belittled anymore than someone who can't.
 
Ok, I admit, this pissed me off. The reference above is clearly about how I had replied to Travis' question: "sound cauling or walking?". I believed that he was asking what the word "caulking" sounds like and yes, not knowing his full background, I assumed he (like many deafies) knows sound and wanted to know how it was pronounced (either auditorily or visually). So, I responded 'sound walking with a 'k' sound for the c'. That can hardly be considered a "lecture" - it was simply an answer to what I thought was a question open to anyone.

I may have been wrong in assuming I understood what Travis was asking and, if that was the case, I would have apologized no problem. However, you are wrong to assume that I was making some sort of stereotypical 'hearie' response. Yes, I hear, but I am not an 'evil hearie' who came to AD to teach anyone anything. I have thick skin but, believe it nor not, someone who hears does not like to be belittled anymore than someone who can't.
Of course you were. Nobody else thought of phonics.

And I really was wondering if I have language dysfunction. Why jump in and answer a question asked of me?

If my answer was wrong, he could ask me again. That's something I love about Travis, if he did ask a different question than I answered, he went right with it and praised my graphic illustration. Maybe I feel as you did, that you are diminishing me by giving a phonics lecture after I answered a different way.

If anyone asks you a question, I won't run in to answer it.
 
I learned how to read because my sister spent the time at home to sit with me (imagine two kids sitting in a hallway) and going over the children's books again and again. It is how I learned to read.

If I understand right, phonics is learning to speak the sound as you read the letters. So the idea is that it improves literacy by allowing children to read new words they've never read before, by sounding out the letters in the new words, like they learned how to do in the old words. The problem, obviously, is how do d/hh people sound out words they don't hear?

It is a great concept.... for hearies. It works naturally for them.

Would you believe that the Hearing Impaired program did not want my parents or my sister to read to me at home or to teach me how to read at home?? I still don't understand why... what's wrong with supplementing what a student is taught at school? What's wrong with reading at home?

They didn't want me to learn stuff outside the class room, they didn't teach me ASL, they mainstreamed me as an oral "broken hearie", instead of a d/hh person. Ridiculous.
 
It is a great concept.... for hearies. It works naturally for them.

Not me, quickest way to annoy me is:

Me- How do you spell.... (some word that can be spelled phonetically)

Other- 'Just like it sounds'

Me- *sigh* not to me- I am a sight reader- just spell it close enough for spell check to help...

Other- 'Its not hard, to spell (that word) it's just like it sounds...

Me- I'd look it up in a dictionary or a spelling dictionary... but I can't spell it...

Other- FINE (spells word really slowly)

Me- thanks, oh SPELL CHECK you switched the E-L at the end...

Other - @*&%#!!

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Like the audible difference between pin and pen... I can say them differently but they sound the same... you ask me audibly for a p(?)n I'm going to look to see if you want a pEn (animal cage, writing implement) or a pIn (needle without a tread pull).
 
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Not me, quickest way to annoy me is:

Me- How do you spell.... (some word that can be spelled phonetically)

Other- 'Just like it sounds'

Me- *sigh* not to me- I am a sight reader- just spell it close enough for spell check to help...

Other- 'Its not hard, to spell (that word) it's just like it sounds...

Me- I'd look it up in a dictionary or a spelling dictionary... but I can't spell it...

Other- FINE (spells word really slowly)

Me- thanks, oh SPELL CHECK you switched the E-L at the end...

Other - @*&%#!!

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Like the audible difference between pin and pen... I can say them differently but they sound the same... you ask me audibly for a p(?)n I'm going to look to see if you want a pEn (animal cage, writing implement) or a pIn (needle without a tread pull).
LAMO! Sometimes you just have to laugh rather than curse the hearing!
 
Of course you were. Nobody else thought of phonics.

And I really was wondering if I have language dysfunction. Why jump in and answer a question asked of me?

If my answer was wrong, he could ask me again. That's something I love about Travis, if he did ask a different question than I answered, he went right with it and praised my graphic illustration. Maybe I feel as you did, that you are diminishing me by giving a phonics lecture after I answered a different way.

If anyone asks you a question, I won't run in to answer it.

Again, I did not give a lecture, I answered a question ... a question that, in reading through the thread, I thought had not been answered. If you noticed, it was a stand-alone question dropped down a ways from the other question/response that he had addressed to you. If Travis did not mean the question the way I read it or was offended by my answer, he should have corrected me. I certainly did NOT intend to diminish you, I was offering an answer to a question Travis asked so was only thinking of him and his question. However, the only way to clear that up completely is for Travis himself to clarify what he meant by "sound cauling or walking". If I was completely off-base in my reading of his question then I would not hesitate to apologize to him for my error.

Secondly, if anyone asks a question in a public forum, of course others will answer it or jump in. Although these particular posts are between you and I, I have no problem with others jumping and and offering an opinion or asking their own question, it is a public thread, open to all. However, IF I had a problem with someone jumping in at a certain time, I would address it then and there, not take a dig at them somewhere down the line in another thread.

Lastly, I am sorry you misunderstood my intent and am sorry you seem to misunderstand me on the whole. I am neither ignorant nor evil and never intentionally disrespectful to anyone. I just see or read things differently than you (or others) based on background and experience - NOT better or worse, just different - and that should be ok.
 
Again, I did not give a lecture, I answered a question ... a question that, in reading through the thread, I thought had not been answered. If you noticed, it was a stand-alone question dropped down a ways from the other question/response that he had addressed to you. If Travis did not mean the question the way I read it or was offended by my answer, he should have corrected me. I certainly did NOT intend to diminish you, I was offering an answer to a question Travis asked so was only thinking of him and his question. However, the only way to clear that up completely is for Travis himself to clarify what he meant by "sound cauling or walking". If I was completely off-base in my reading of his question then I would not hesitate to apologize to him for my error.

Secondly, if anyone asks a question in a public forum, of course others will answer it or jump in. Although these particular posts are between you and I, I have no problem with others jumping and and offering an opinion or asking their own question, it is a public thread, open to all. However, IF I had a problem with someone jumping in at a certain time, I would address it then and there, not take a dig at them somewhere down the line in another thread.

Lastly, I am sorry you misunderstood my intent and am sorry you seem to misunderstand me on the whole. I am neither ignorant nor evil and never intentionally disrespectful to anyone. I just see or read things differently than you (or others) based on background and experience - NOT better or worse, just different - and that should be ok.

lec·ture/ˈlekCHər/
Noun:
An educational talk to an audience, esp. to students in a university or college.
Verb:
Deliver an educational lecture or lectures.
Synonyms:
noun. sermon - discourse - lesson - reading - talk
verb. prelect

On the second bolded, this is just one of those threads where hearies may not like what they see.

But I commend you for your superiority on how you would handle things. You do seem to make an issue of how I should behave. :lol:
 
A single sentence does not equal a lecture but .... sigh ... I give up. I obviously can't make myself understood and it seems you believe the worst of me simply based on my hearing status and the way I express myself. Not sure anything I can say could change that so I will keep still my hands.

It's tough to change the tide when you are just a drop in the ocean.
 
Yes, I understand where you're coming from. But, you are on a DEAF forum. Where phonics don't mean a heckuvalot. It's almost rude. I can't think of a single other poster here who has instructed someone on how something should be pronounced. That's where Botts is coming from here.
 
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