Ahmadinejad Wins Iranian Vote

[Royale]

The hardline and anti-Semite Islamists need to go and they are one of the main obstacles that prevents from reaching the Middle East peace.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I´m surprised that Ahmadinejad won at election twice.

Congratulations to Ahmadinejad for his second election and wish him best of good luck.

Moussaiv´s supporters should calm down and have to accept the fact that there´re more % Iranian people decided for him over Moussaiv.

I accept in polite way to congrats Bush for won at his 2nd election against Kerry whom I support Kerry in Election 2004... I would do the same if McCain wins...

I has to admit that Ahmadinejad made a lot of good points.

How many countries Iran has invaded?

Did he lie to his people to attack other countries to make a war and killed hundreds of thousands people including children?

 

[Reba]

It's getting ugly and violent in Iran.

I wonder if Ahmadinejad is having flashbacks to when he was one of the students protesting against the Shah.

If so, he knows what might befall him.

 

[Foxrac]

I´m surprised that Ahmadinejad won at election twice.

Congratulations to Ahmadinejad for his second election and wish him best of good luck.

Moussaiv´s supporters should calm down and have to accept the fact that there´re more % Iranian people decided for him over Moussaiv.

I accept in polite way to congrats Bush for won at his 2nd election against Kerry whom I support Kerry in Election 2004... I would do the same if McCain wins...

I has to admit that Ahmadinejad made a lot of good points.

How many countries Iran has invaded?

Did he lie to his people to attack other countries to make a war and killed hundreds of thousands people including children?

No, Iran election was rigged or cheat, citizens has rights to protest if election was rigged or cheat and it does harm the democracy in their country.

I'm not surprised about you congratulation but not us, I don't have respect for him since he has done to alot of mistreat on citizens and economy wasn't great, he has alot of provoking against other countries, especially western countries and serious situation about nuclear weapon.

 

[Hear Again]

Sorry for trying to compare them. Bush is of course far more worse. He have contributed to 1 million deaths in Iraq since american invasion, and that's just one of many things he have done. Sick man, yeah.

 

[Hear Again]

Agree. Most countries have different ways of "democracy". The US model don't look like democracy compared to some other countries and vice versa. Forcing a way of rule into another country seems to often just destroy it.

Exactly. Democracy (as we know it in the U.S.) will never work in the Middle East and Bush was delusional for believing it would.

 

[Foxrac]

Exactly. Democracy (as we know it in the U.S.) will never work in the Middle East and Bush was delusional for believing it would.

Every countries has different term of democracy and many middle east countries are quite authoritarian but it has some democracy, such as Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Lebanon and Egypt.

There's good example about Singapore is authoritarian country but they still have democracy, just very strict, such as you can get fine for not flush or spit out on street.

 

[Foxrac]

How very ethnocentric of you.

Is it nice thing to say?

 

[Hear Again]

Every countries has different term of democracy and many middle east countries are quite authoritarian but it has some democracy, such as Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Lebanon and Egypt.

There's good example about Singapore is authoritarian country but they still have democracy, just very strict, such as you can get fine for not flush or spit out on street.

Yes, but like I said, the Middle East does not enjoy the same democracy we do which is what Bush was trying to achieve by fighting the war in Iraq.

Hence, my comment.

 

[Reba]

I´m surprised that Ahmadinejad won at election twice.

Why are you suprised? It's not hard to "win" an election when you cheat.

Congratulations to Ahmadinejad for his second election and wish him best of good luck.

You congratulate him for a false election? Why?

Moussaiv´s supporters should calm down and have to accept the fact that there´re more % Iranian people decided for him over Moussaiv.

Don't you get it? The people protesting the election aren't sour grapes whiners. They are voters with legitimate complaints who are being shot dead for their stand.

I has to admit that Ahmadinejad made a lot of good points.

Good points?

How many countries Iran has invaded?

The Iranian revolutionary brigands invaded American territory when they took over the U.S. Embassy in 1979.

Did he lie to his people to attack other countries to make a war and killed hundreds of thousands people including children?

Give him time; he would love to do that to Israel.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Why are you suprised? It's not hard to "win" an election when you cheat.

How? Do you remember that Bush was being false accused as election cheat in Election 2000? How about this? I think it´s political accusation. We really have no proof either it´s really cheat or not.

Yes, I am surprised because I thought Moussaiv would win, not him.

You congratulate him for a false election? Why?

How do we know that it´s false election?

All what I do is congrat him like what I did to Bush in his 2nd election as well. If McCain wins, I would do the same as well. I also congrat Chevz for his 2nd election as well.

Don't you get it? The people protesting the election aren't sour grapes whiners. They are voters with legitimate complaints who are being shot dead for their stand.

Example of all, I don´t whines and fought with others because German Helmut Köhl won for 3th/4th election but accept the fact that people voted him.

Good points?

I posted the link of the interview between him and German reporter of Spiegln somewhere last year. I will pull the thread tomorrow when I find them (it´s soon midnight, I have to go bed now).

The Iranian revolutionary brigands invaded American territory when they took over the U.S. Embassy in 1979

.

Yes, it´s true.

Give him time; he would love to do that to Israel.

Accord his interview with German reporter, he did not hate Israel but state the fact. (I will show you the link of his interview tomorrow).

Gute Nacht I have to go bed now... It´s soon midnight...

 

[whatdidyousay!]

No news reporters are allowed to show what going in the streets ! You know is has to be a lot killing going on just like what happen China! Amandinejad did not win the election , the votes had to be hand counted and there is no way all thoses votes could be counted this fast! Amandinejad stolen the election!

 

[netrox]

You congratulate him for a false election? Why?

How do you know it was a false election?

"Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty, who work for a nonprofit group called Terror Free Tomorrow: The Center for Public Opinion, are out with a comment in today's Washington Post which claims that their poll of 1,001 Iranians conducted last month predicted Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory."

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Polling Predicted Intimidation -- and Not Necessarily Ahmadinejad's Victory

 

[Beowulf]

So what else is new? It is the USA 2000 election all over again, except without the new cellphones. Arghh. We already know how it ends.

 

[jillio]

Is it nice thing to say?

Its an accurrate thing to say.

 

[darkdog]

Is it nice thing to say?

Don't worry Foxrac. I've noticed that "ethnocentric" is a fashionable way for many "academics" to make a point without making a point. Saying it requires no more critical thinking skills than a 5 year old possesses because it contains no substance. Rarely will you see the word "ethnocentric" followed by the word "because". If they had to explain themselves, that would diminish the smug superiority they feel over those to whom they direct it.

 

[darkdog]

You congratulate him for a false election? Why?

How do you know it was a false election?

"Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty, who work for a nonprofit group called Terror Free Tomorrow: The Center for Public Opinion, are out with a comment in today's Washington Post which claims that their poll of 1,001 Iranians conducted last month predicted Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory."

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Polling Predicted Intimidation -- and Not Necessarily Ahmadinejad's Victory

I don't trust that it was a fair election. Even that article you linked doesn't trust its fairness.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Good points?

The 1st link, I posted in my other thread.

http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/61492-iranian-leader-demands-us-apology.html

And my response what I thought of his interview with German Reporter:

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Iranian leader demands US apology

The Iranian revolutionary brigands invaded American territory when they took over the U.S. Embassy in 1979.


Give him time; he would love to do that to Israel.

I updated his 2nd interview with same German Reporter at my post #110 in other thread today.

http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/61492-iranian-leader-demands-us-apology-4.html

 

[jillio]

Don't worry Foxrac. I've noticed that "ethnocentric" is a fashionable way for many "academics" to make a point without making a point. Saying it requires no more critical thinking skills than a 5 year old possesses because it contains no substance. Rarely will you see the word "ethnocentric" followed by the word "because". If they had to explain themselves, that would diminish the smug superiority they feel over those to whom they direct it.

Well then, here you go. It is an ethnocentric perspective because judgement is being passed on the correctness or the validity of a culture and the inherent practices and beliefs from the persepctive of one's own culture. You cannot judge one from perspective of the other without being ethnocentric. The very fact that you need explanation of the term means that you are, no doubt, functioning from an ethnocentric perspective.

And thus ends today's lecture on ethnocentrism. For further information, outside readings in the discipline of cultural anthropology can be recommended.

It is a distinct form of ethnocentrism, as well as a sign of feelings of inferiority, when one finds it necessary to make repeated attempts to insult academia simply because one has not reached the status of being knowledgable enough to be considered a participant.

 

[darkdog]

Well then, here you go. It is an ethnocentric perspective because judgement is being passed on the correctness or the validity of a culture and the inherent practices and beliefs from the persepctive of one's own culture. You cannot judge one from perspective of the other without being ethnocentric. The very fact that you need explanation of the term means that you are, no doubt, functioning from an ethnocentric perspective.

So in jillio logic land, expecting more of a critique than blithely throwing out the word "ethnocentric" = not knowing what "ethnocentric" means = being ethnocentric. I would expect something more like "That is ethnocentric because you're not in a position to objectively judge that your own system of freedom and democracy produces a happier and more prosperous society than an oppressive theocracy." Then you go on to back up that position.

And thus ends today's lecture on ethnocentrism. For further information, outside readings in the discipline of cultural anthropology can be recommended.

Oh, thank goodness it's over.

It is a distinct form of ethnocentrism, as well as a sign of feelings of inferiority, when one finds it necessary to make repeated attempts to insult academia simply because one has not reached the status of being knowledgable enough to be considered a participant.

Oh crap! There's more!

That's a lot of assumptions you make there. And I'm not seeing the logical connection between criticizing academia and being ethnocentric. Besides, my culture involves criticizing the fads that sweep through academia and you're criticizing me for it. That's ethnocentric!!!*

*note: sarcasm intended