after 2007 years later, James Cameron found Jesus Christ and his son.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Getting DNA evidence of Jesus shouldn't be too hard to get.

And will never achieve unless someone pay to make it appear so. So they will never find Jesus' body, bec He was raised from the dead and even discovered on the cloth, but nowhere to be found and till Jesus comes again, that's where they will find.
 
If it were true, it would be a "crushing blow."

It's not true, so it's not a crushing blow.

People have been trying to discredit Christ's resurrection ever since He left the tomb. It's nothing new. :popcorn:

Matthew 28
12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, 13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. 14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. 15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.




First of all, in American courts, DNA is not enough to sentence anyone to death. It is used to exonerate people on death row. It can only be used as supporting evidence.

Secondly, how could there be any "evidence" using DNA for Jesus Christ? Are you saying that someone 2,000 years ago swabbed a sample from Jesus, put it into a sealed container, labeled it, and kept a recorded chain of custody until now? :roll:


I think it requires more faith to believe Cameron's "razzle-dazzle."


His message was that we can have eternal life in Heaven, and joy and peace in our souls here on earth if we trust in Him. :)

You forgot your source.
 
Bollywood? That is the term I heard from the Conservatives and FOX News Channel.

That's a name for the Indian cinema in India. I noticed you use this one before but apparently you just assumed that it was a reference to the Liberalism in Hollywood, a bad move on that one. Being a movie buff, I've NEVER heard of 'Bollywood' being used as a term to describe the liberalism in Hollywood. I've always known it as the name for the Indian film industry.

I did not know that is the term from India! Interesting!

I don't know where you got that one, must had been a misunderstanding. NOT a misunderstanding, period!

Anyway, you obviously don't know what you're talking about when it come to James Cameron. You see, he hasn't made a movie in 10 years because he was deeply involved in many different projects including several documentaries. I happen to know quite a lot about this particular person, and no... he didn't make this documentary. Someone else did, he's only associated with it because he's a producer.
I DO KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!
You have absolutely no idea how much influence he holds over the technology used in the film industry and the science world. This man has achieved quite a lot in his lifetime. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD, PERIOD! JAMES IS JUST A JERK! HE WANTS CONTROVERSY, HE WANTS ATTENTION, HE LACKS SELF CONFIDENT LIKE MANY BOLLYWOOD STARS, STUDIOS, DIRECTORS, PRODUCERS, ETC. Why I said that? Because those people wanted to be on the top of the world and loves the attention in front of the camera and they fall hard! Look at all the celebs lately: divorce at roughly 90 percent, divorce less than 5 years of marriage, drugs, DWIs, DUIs, arrests, sexual orientation, eating disorders, hey, we all have that too but it is more shown about them than say, 100 years ago with that one actor who got caught for having sex with a boy. I believe his name starts with Art. Bollywood stars and producers are very much on the left side of the wagon in political world. Few great stars such as Chuck Norris are conseratives.

By the way, Freemason isn't a satanic cult, it's a fraternal organization. Heck, your dollar bill has a Masonic symbol on it. From what I can recall, 50 out of 55 members of the constitutional convention were Masons.
Freemason IS a CULT, PERIOD! I have wonderful information you should read about. Why they always have it secret? Can you answer that question? What they really worship? Check online about the real Freemasons. Of course, I know that the Constitutional Convention had the majority of Freemasons. All Presidents are Freemasons. To become the President of the United States, you can not run unless you are a Freemason. That IS reality, buddy! Sure many say they are Christians but they do not know what they were getting into. There are so many Freemasons out there. I am sure the Jesuits too! You know that Castro is one? This is another whole subject but it is related. You know that the Pope is a member of Freemason? Check Chick Tracts. They will tell you the whole story.
I doubt James is a Freemason, even if he was... it's nothing to worry about.

About the American Government, yes it was really formed by the Masons, not the Colonists of 1600s and early 1700s. The Revolutionary War really started by the Masons. They wanted to establish the American Government. Why do you think we have Washington DC in the shape of the Masonic symbols, buildings, etc? The Oblisk in the middle of the Mall (Washington Memorial), the Mall itself, the roads. Did you watch History and Discovery Channel about the cult? Very clear.
 
Originally Posted by Banjo
Bollywood? That is the term I heard from the Conservatives and FOX News Channel.

I did not know that is the term from India! Interesting!

Well, like I said... you may had misunderstood. Or it was just a typo, definitely not a slang for the liberalism in Hollywood.

NOT a misunderstanding, period!

Sorry, but you obviously made a mistake.

I DO KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!

When it come to James Cameron? Definitely not.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD, PERIOD! JAMES IS JUST A JERK! HE WANTS CONTROVERSY, HE WANTS ATTENTION, HE LACKS SELF CONFIDENT LIKE MANY BOLLYWOOD STARS, STUDIOS, DIRECTORS, PRODUCERS, ETC.

Um, James Cameron lacking in self confidence? Ha, that's a good one. Again, you're misusing the term, 'Bollywood'. Nobody is using it to insult the liberals, it's still a name for the Indian film industry. There's no need to change the meaning of the word. If you are insisting it is, then please cite your source because I happen to watch Fox News and I've never seen them using the term.

Why I said that? Because those people wanted to be on the top of the world and loves the attention in front of the camera and they fall hard!

James Cameron is hardly the attention-seeking type. He's just bringing attention to the subject since he produced the documentary. Of course, he will promote it since it's about to air next week. The more attention he get, the more viewers they will get for the airing of the documentary. That's just an old trick in the book of marketing.

Look at all the celebs lately: divorce at roughly 90 percent, divorce less than 5 years of marriage, drugs, DWIs, DUIs, arrests, sexual orientation, eating disorders, hey, we all have that too but it is more shown about them than say, 100 years ago with that one actor who got caught for having sex with a boy. I believe his name starts with Art. Bollywood stars and producers are very much on the left side of the wagon in political world.

Lately? It has been going on for DECADES. 90 percent? I don't know about that, but that's obviously an assumption you made. The divorces publicized are often famous people, not the less known actors. So really, how would you know how many are getting divorced?

The only problem is, these are being MASSIVELY PUBLICIZED while a large number of cases in America are barely told on the news. Just because it's not on TV doesn't mean it isn't happening in your neighbourhood. IT happens more than you can possibly imagine.

There's quite a large number of conservatives in Hollywood, more than you obviously are aware of.

Few great stars such as Chuck Norris are conseratives.

Chuck Norris can't act to save his life. That's why he isn't a big star, not because of his politics. If so, then Bruce Willis wouldn't be a big star.

Freemason IS a CULT, PERIOD! I have wonderful information you should read about. Why they always have it secret?

Um, it is a secret organization. It was always intended to be a secret organization, you should know that. The meaning of cult isn't exactly "evil" to start with. Nor is it a religion. It's a fraternal organization, not a church nor a religious organization.

Can you answer that question? What they really worship? Check online about the real Freemasons.

Of course, I know that the Constitutional Convention had the majority of Freemasons. All Presidents are Freemasons. To become the President of the United States, you can not run unless you are a Freemason. That IS reality, buddy!

That's not true. Your favorite president, Ronald Reagan wasn't a Freemason.

Sure many say they are Christians but they do not know what they were getting into. There are so many Freemasons out there. I am sure the Jesuits too! You know that Castro is one? This is another whole subject but it is related. You know that the Pope is a member of Freemason? Check Chick Tracts. They will tell you the whole story

CHICK is an anti-Catholic organization, so they will feed you any lies about the church. I wouldn't call it a reliable source.
.
About the American Government, yes it was really formed by the Masons, not the Colonists of 1600s and early 1700s. The Revolutionary War really started by the Masons. They wanted to establish the American Government. Why do you think we have Washington DC in the shape of the Masonic symbols, buildings, etc? The Oblisk in the middle of the Mall (Washington Memorial), the Mall itself, the roads. Did you watch History and Discovery Channel about the cult? Very clear.

Guess what? The documentary produced by James Cameron is being aired on Discovery Channel.

If you're so worried about the Masons, then why are you living in the USA? Why do you have so much love for a country that is much influenced by the Masons to start with?
 
The DNA tests proved only that a person named "Jesus" and his family members were buried together. The DNA tests proved only that the bones in that group were related to each other. They did NOT prove that the Jesus in the ossuary was the same crucified Jesus Christ of Nazareth. (Because they can't.)

ref: Mysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and Mary | International News | News | Telegraph

No, they found that "Jesus" and "Mary were not related to each other but were married to each other. Then their son "Judah" was found to be related to both of them.

I agree that we cannot prove that person "Jesus" is from your bible. But we can add one with one to complete puzzle without direct, obviously evidence.

For example, suppose you re married to guy and you have a family with brother/sister and parents. It is highly possible that other unrelated person has same name like you. However, it is very unlikely if you find other another family whereas the husband shares your same name, his wife shares has same like you, their children's names are same, her parents' names are same as yours, finally also has a brother that is named the same as your brother.

That is what Cameron and his team are doing right now by using "law of probability" to show that the tomb could belongs to Jesus and his family.
 
Yes, I would like to know how they can get his DNA. We'll wait while you look for answer to this.

Sure. I think he meant this. :D

b_shroud.jpg
 
Too funny. :lol:

The article says that the "proof" is the names on the ossuaries. For one thing, the given names (in all forms) "Mary", "Joseph", and "Jesus" were very common. And without last names, it becomes even harder to sort them out.

The other so-called "proof" was DNA. What DNA? How can you compare the DNA of these remains with DNA of Jesus if none was ever taken and recorded? It's ridiculous.

Exactly!!!! What DNA could they possibly have to compair the bodies or bones or whatever they found? I have to agree with Reba.
 
...For example, suppose you re married to guy and you have a family with brother/sister and parents. It is highly possible that other unrelated person has same name like you. However, it is very unlikely if you find other another family whereas the husband shares your same name, his wife shares has same like you, their children's names are same, her parents' names are same as yours, finally also has a brother that is named the same as your brother.

That is what Cameron and his team are doing right now by using "law of probability" to show that the tomb could belongs to Jesus and his family.
You have to put this into the context of time and space. The culture of Israel during the time of Jesus was not the same as our present culture in North America. There wasn't the massive variety of proper names back then, and many names were "recycled" with families and tribes.

As a personal aside, I do family genealogy. In my research, I found many people with common names, some directly related, some not, repeated in some families dozens of times. Part of the confusion in genealogy is that married couples do have the same names, and their children do have the same names, and yet aren't the same family. And that's just for families in the last 500 years, from one country.

In my own living family, at last year's reunion, I found three pairs of couples had the same first AND last names (some thru marriage, some thru birth), even though they originally came from different unrelated families. It does happen.

In a one-hundred year period, one branch of my family had several members with the same first and last names exactly same, dozens of times, and others with just the same first names. In some families, they named more than one child the same name (like George Foreman did, heh, heh).

In other cultures, past and present, children were frequently named to honor an ancestor or other respected person, so names were recycled frequently.

The coincidence of ancient names (if they haven't been forged or misinterpreted to begin with) doesn't impress me.

If you doubt me, do a little browsing on the LDS genealogy site, or check Ancestry.com. You'll see what I mean. :)
 
Sure. I think he meant this. :D

b_shroud.jpg

A shroud of turin? I don't believe it's him. There are many look-a-likes. But if they tried DNA on both, I'm sure it's not a match.

Oh BTW, he looks alot older. And why is a number 3 on his forehead??
 
:lol: thread here...

Excuse me, I laugh at this thread here... I find this thread here is funny... :lol: Please accept my apology if you think this thread is not funny...
 
Jesus' tomb was empty and rose to heaven. It is impossible to shove a DNA evidence to a Christian's face and say See here. Here is the evidence that he is just a man.
 
Jesus' tomb was empty and rose to heaven. It is impossible to shove a DNA evidence to a Christian's face and say See here. Here is the evidence that he is just a man.

language spoke in point of view that Jesus raise in way that you're dead and God tell you to wake up and you raise. You may not look at your own body as you go toward light. While the body become useless and still stay there on ground or whatever.

The mass of body is not impossible to be vanish on earth.

Look at human and animal and insect and fish. After die, they raise and body still there. The soul is up in afterlife what it would be like....
 
It's sounds like fake information.

I don't believe in god or jesus, period.

You don't believe in God? Really? I didn't know that. Maybe it'll help me if you tell us all a couple dozen more times.
 
The only way to end this debate is to create a time machine and go back in time to find out for yourself.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top