'Active shooter incident' reported in Chattanooga

Foxrac said:
It is easier to allow troops to be armed in anywhere, including base and recruitment center over restrict the immigration.
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that's up to the President and Secretary of Defense
 
Foxrac said:
This shooting is domestic terrorism.
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I don't see how it's considered as domestic terrorism since this shooter is not an American citizen nor a permanent resident. He's a Jordanian citizen.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/16/politics/hillary-clinton-chattanooga-shooting/





I heard is being called a domestic terrorism on the news , I guess b/c it happen on our ground this is why is being called domestic terrorism ?
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https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code

18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines "international terrorism" and "domestic terrorism" for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled "Terrorism”:

"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:

Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).
* FISA defines "international terrorism" in a nearly identical way, replacing "primarily" outside the U.S. with "totally" outside the U.S. 50 U.S.C. § 1801(c).
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I guess maybe it is a domestic terrorism.
 
Jiro said:
I don't see how it's considered as domestic terrorism since this shooter is not an American citizen nor a permanent resident. He's a Jordanian citizen.
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He is naturalized US citizen.

Abdulazeez was not in any U.S. databases of suspected terrorists, a U.S. official said. He was born in Kuwait and had Jordanian citizenship, two law enforcement officials said. He was a naturalized U.S. citizen, one official said.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/16/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/

I followed CNN about domestic terrorism.
 
Jiro said:
I don't see how it's considered as domestic terrorism since this shooter is not an American citizen nor a permanent resident. He's a Jordanian citizen.
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I am repeating an American news caster..My understanding and I maybe wrong that it Obama himself must take some responsibility by looking and listening to public...public aware of dangers of international terrorism Obama apparently is not..This what I understood it to mean as I say I maybe wrong the captons were not on this morning I only picked up about 30%
 
it international terrerissn I to tired to night expainh
 
Terrorism is a method..thats it...and itsbeen around for ever...the americans used terroeism during the revolution, the engkish used terrorism during the occupation of ireland (the north still is), and every colony that resisted. The french used terroeism against the germans occupying, so on...
Its a method..its not new..it wont go away...its part of what we currently are and hve been...
That doesnt excuse it...but it keeps it real.
Really.at least this dude didnt take out a bunch of kkds in school or watching movies
Rip to the fallen
Its only going to get worse.
 
Foxrac said:
Yes because of Bill Clinton banned guns in 1994.
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"Sorry Bush Sr. enacted this policy 02/1992, Clinton didn’t take office until 01/20/93." Someone posted on one of link here .


@TCS , I was wondering when people were going to start protecting our troops , I would bake that guy cookies too and I have no one in the service .
 
Heartbreaking. :cry:

"ACTIVE SHOOTER"

So read the final text message sent by Lance Cpl. Squire "Skip" Wells to his girlfriend, Caroline Dove, before he was gunned down by an Islamic radical Thursday morning in Chattanooga, Tenn.

Dove had been anxiously waiting for an upcoming trip to Tennessee to visit Wells.

She thought he was kidding, replying, “You are so weird.”

Then hours of silence.

“I love you,” she sent, trying to elicit a response from Wells. Hours more passed, the news out of Chattanooga becoming clearer. “Hon, I need you to answer me please,” she wrote.

It would not be until Friday that she learned his fate.

Wells, along with three other Marines, were gunned down Thursday by 24-year-old Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, who opened fire on two military facilities before being shot dead by police.

Through tears, Dove remembered her boyfriend’s love of flag football and Nerf guns, his passion for U.S. history, his ability to handle her when she was grouchy and how good he was at listening.

He dreamed of being a drill sergeant, and when they last saw each other around Valentine’s Day, he gave her a gold-and-silver ring. When the time came to propose, she said, he knew to ask her parents first.

Wells’ mother Cathy was watching television coverage of the shooting when Marines appeared at her door. She knew what the visit meant.

“Every service parent, especially moms, dreads opening the front door and seeing people in uniform,” said Andy Kingery, a friend who is acting as a family spokesman.

"My son died doing what he loved for the love of his country and his family," Cathy Wells told Fox News.

“He had been preparing for military life for a while and looked forward to it,” Matt Lawson told the newspaper. “He looked at his time with the Marines as not just an option he had as opposed to some other job. He really felt like it was a calling.”

One of Wells' friends from high school, Lindsey Pittman, said the two were "marching band nerds" at Sprayberry High School. Wells played the clarinet, she said.

“He was just a protector,” she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “He looked at everyone with love. And he would go anywhere to protect anybody.

“It just doesn’t make sense,” she said. “It always happens to the good ones.”

The three other Marines killed were identified Friday as Gunnery Sgt. Thomas Sullivan, from Hampden, Mass., Sgt. Carson Holmquist, of Polk, Wisc., and Staff Sgt. David Wyatt, of Burke, N.C.

Sullivan served in India Battery, 3rd Battalion, 12th Marines and fought in the 2005 Battle of Abu Ghraib, where he earned a Combat Action medal and Purple Heart.

The Facebook page of a Springfield bar and restaurant owned by one of Sullivan's two siblings posted a message paying tribute to Sullivan.

Sullivan's friend, Josh Parnell, of Chicago, told Oak Lawn Patch, "There's no Marine you would want that was better in combat than him."

On Friday, friends posted tributes to Holmquist on his Facebook page, which was plastered with photos of the American flag.

"You will be missed bud," wrote one friend.

Holmquist, 27, was originally from the western Wisconsin community of Grantsburg but had recently moved to Jacksonville, N.C., with his wife Jasmine and their new born son Wyatt. Holmquist’s mother told KARE11, a news station based in Minneapolis, that military personnel showed up at her door Thursday evening and she and her husband were overwhelmed by the news.

"[We are] just trying to make it through the day," she said....
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Final message
 
bc it happen on American soil do not mean it domestic....these people indoctrinated they are taught and told how to be lone wolf and shown best place to bomb shoot etc..The internet is world web this how they taught..to know the why and wherefores of this evil man could save lives of others in world not just america
 
hoichi said:
Terrorism is a method..thats it...and itsbeen around for ever...the americans used terroeism during the revolution, the engkish used terrorism during the occupation of ireland (the north still is), and every colony that resisted. The french used terroeism against the germans occupying, so on...
Its a method..its not new..it wont go away...its part of what we currently are and hve been...
That doesnt excuse it...but it keeps it real.
Really.at least this dude didnt take out a bunch of kkds in school or watching movies
Rip to the fallen
Its only going to get worse.
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It's possible but I hope not. In other words, law enforcements like FBI and Homeland Security have to work harder because ISIS encourages the supporters in America to do what it says. That is dangerous. SMH
 
hoichi said:
Terrorism is a method..thats it...and itsbeen around for ever...the americans used terroeism during the revolution, the engkish used terrorism during the occupation of ireland (the north still is), and every colony that resisted. The french used terroeism against the germans occupying, so on...
Its a method..its not new..it wont go away...its part of what we currently are and hve been...
That doesnt excuse it...but it keeps it real.
Really.at least this dude didnt take out a bunch of kkds in school or watching movies
Rip to the fallen
Its only going to get worse.
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these dudes do take kids out and many of them I like to bet average joe not clue where though. and that why America got stop saying domestic terrorism..America got get act together as these people get instuctions from IS,it was America this week could just as easily been Britain france etc IS don't care.
When 9/11 happened world knew about it but when I mentioned 7/7 very few americans knew what I talking about same with Madrid Kenya and that not only sad it dangerous..terroists do not see themselves as American british etc so don't treat them like americans
 
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