Abortion is NOT a sin

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Let's see...
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers.
"Christians" believe that abortion is murder.
Therefore, "Christians" want to see mothers executed.
Such sickening sickening hypocricy.

Phooey, you "preachers" are just ranting nuts.
 
Beowulf said:
Let's see...
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers.
"Christians" believe that abortion is murder.
Therefore, "Christians" want to see mothers executed.
Such sickening sickening hypocricy.

Phooey, you "preachers" are just ranting nuts.
I support the carrying out of the death penalty after a trial has convicted a murderer. Currently it is legal in the United States to abort babies, so there are no mothers on death row for abortion. I prefer that women be convinced that abortion is wrong so that they can avoid the pain and guilt of an abortion.

I believe that killing babies for non-life-threatening-to-the-mother reasons is murder.

I am glad to see that you at least admit the women are "mothers" which means those are babies that are aborted, not tissue blobs.

I think that ranting about "women's rights to their bodies" and not defending the rights of innocent babies is hypocrisy. There is lots of sympathy for the moms but no sympathy for the tortured little babies.
 
Beowulf said:
Let's see...
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers.

I don't support the death penalty at all....

"Christians" believe that abortion is murder.

Yes
 
Reba said:
I support the carrying out of the death penalty after a trial has convicted a murderer. Currently it is legal in the United States to abort babies, so there are no mothers on death row for abortion. I prefer that women be convinced that abortion is wrong so that they can avoid the pain and guilt of an abortion.

There's no difference between abortion and death penalty, It's murder period!!!! it doesn't matter if the person commit a crime, still its murder!
 
Reba said:
I support the carrying out of the death penalty after a trial has convicted a murderer. Currently it is legal in the United States to abort babies, so there are no mothers on death row for abortion. I prefer that women be convinced that abortion is wrong so that they can avoid the pain and guilt of an abortion.

I believe that killing babies for non-life-threatening-to-the-mother reasons is murder.

I am glad to see that you at least admit the women are "mothers" which means those are babies that are aborted, not tissue blobs.

I think that ranting about "women's rights to their bodies" and not defending the rights of innocent babies is hypocrisy. There is lots of sympathy for the moms but no sympathy for the tortured little babies.


Tortured little babies? Get real. In the first several weeks of pregnancy
there are no nerve neurons in the fetus, no brain, so how can they feel anything?
And as for my using the word "mother", it was just a word I put in, and anyone with the i.q. of room temperature can see that.
Now, I got a question for YOU, Reba....
*rubbing hands*
Do you advocate the death penalty for women getting abortions?
Come on, show your true colors here.
 
Beowulf said:
Now, I got a question for YOU, Reba....
*rubbing hands*
First of all, I don't get any glee or "hand rubbing" from being at odds with fellow ADers. I don't enjoy people getting their feelings hurt. I don't bring up serious topics just to gain debate points or compete. These topics are painful but necessary, like the process of healing a deep burn by peeling off the damaged skin and cleaning the wound. It is not entertainment.


Do you advocate the death penalty for women getting abortions?
Come on, show your true colors here.
No, I do not advocate the death penalty for women getting abortions.

I would like to see laws enacted that would limit abortions to medical necessity for saving the life of the mother, and for removing already dead babies from the womb.
I would like to see abortion "clinics" closed down, and allowing only hospitals to perform medically necessary abortions.
I would like to see the profit motive taken out of abortion.
I would like to see no abortions performed on minors without either parental consent or court order.
I would like to see the women get full information about what really happens in fetal development, and the actual abortion process (including graphic pictures).
I would like to see encouragement of adoption by promoting financial help for adoptive parents, and pre-natal care and educational services for unwed mothers in residential facilities (if needed).
I would like to see more post-abortion counseling available to the women that have already had abortions. The abortion "pushers" at the so-called clinics tell the women that there is nothing "wrong" with having an abortion, therefore they don't need counseling after. That just leaves the women out there alone to carry their emotional burdens.

I would like people to see sin as sin, and quit making excuses and justifications for committing sins. I don't mean people have to thump on others to judge their sins. I mean people need to self-examine their own hearts and quit arguing with God. When God says something is sin in His Bible, then don't argue with Him. Accept what He says. Agree with God about sin. Name that sin. Confess it. Ask God to forgive. Ask God to give grace and strength to turn away from sin. And then accept His peace.
 
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers."

for me, no I do not support death penalty.
 
Beowulf said:
Let's see...
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers.
"Christians" believe that abortion is murder.
Therefore, "Christians" want to see mothers executed.
Such sickening sickening hypocricy.

Phooey, you "preachers" are just ranting nuts.

Excuse me, Beowulf.. You got wrong opnions!!

@I'm christian...
I do not support that what you spoke... "support the death penalty for murders and believe that abortion is murder!
I think you're totally ridcouisly...

There's indvidiuval christans who prefer support or not support that...

GET IT!
*rolls my eys up*
 
Bullym0m said:
Excuse me, Beowulf.. You got wrong opnions!!

@I'm christian...
I do not support that what you spoke... "support the death penalty for murders and believe that abortion is murder!
I think you're totally ridcouisly...

There's indvidiuval christans who prefer support or not support that...

GET IT!
*rolls my eys up*


Calm down BullyMom, Some Christen do believes death penalty, Did he name your name? All You got to say was "I do not support the death penalty" that's all no reason to get upset. :)
 
Well, Bullymom, I was merely summarizing the "logic" I have seen in here, I was not stating my own opinions.
Reba did set me straight on a few things and I appreciate it, though.
I just wish she would stop insisting that "sin" is practically a scientific fact.
That is total nonsense in my mind.
 
Reba said:
I think that ranting about "women's rights to their bodies" and not defending the rights of innocent babies is hypocrisy. There is lots of sympathy for the moms but no sympathy for the tortured little babies.
That's your opinion. Here's my opinion:

I think that ranting about "abortion is a sin because it is murder" and voted for Bush which rallying for the senseless deaths and murders in the war that Jesus preached against is hypocrisy. There is lots of sympathy for the babies but no sympathy for the over 100,000 innocent iraqis included tortured thousands and thousands of innocent innocent iraqis.

You see, Religious Right are no better either. That 'hypocrisy' case is closed.

Right now, I am going to roll back to broken record and say again, again and again.

Judge ye that ye not be judged

women and their bodies are NOT yours, it is theirs.

Judge ye that ye not be judged

women and their bodies are NOT yours, it is theirs.

Judge ye that ye not be judged

women and their bodies are NOT yours, it is theirs.

Judge ye that ye not be judged

women and their bodies are NOT yours, it is theirs.

^Angel^ said:
There's no difference between abortion and death penalty, It's murder period!!!! it doesn't matter if the person commit a crime, still its murder!
Hooray for true christians. God bless you. He truly do.

To Religious Right people, sure time is on your side now because of Bush but karma is on our side. Remember that always, bub.

Edit: Whoever supports the death penalty while preaching against abortion is hypocrisy. Life is life. Death is death. Angel nailed it perfectly. Religious Right people will never, never and never understand that conception ever. You ate the cow meat and vegetarians can call you "murderer". You stomped on the bug and killed it, buddhists can call you "murderer". List go on and on. As I said, life is life.
 
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Crazymanw00t said:
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers."

for me, no I do not support death penalty.
Thats because nothings happend to you or your loved ones yet. I bet if someone rapes and murder your sister or your niece youll change your mind about the death penalty.
 
Beowulf said:
...I just wish she would stop insisting that "sin" is practically a scientific fact.
That is total nonsense in my mind.
Sin is thinking, saying, or doing something that is against God's commands. Sin is also disobeying and not doing something that God commands.
 
Magatsu said:
...Whoever supports the death penalty while preaching against abortion is hypocrisy. Life is life. Death is death. ... As I said, life is life.
Life is life.
So, you are saying, if a person is against the death penalty, that person must be against abortion also, right? Otherwise, that would be hypocritical, right?
Life is life?
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Thats because nothings happend to you or your loved ones yet. I bet if someone rapes and murder your sister or your niece youll change your mind about the death penalty.

Well, I will be very mad. I will leave it to court and they will take care of it by their professional decision with the laws. For my personal thing and I will talk to them about the"forgiveness situation." I do not want to revenge back to them and that what we all should do.
 
Magatsu said:
There is lots of sympathy for the babies but no sympathy for the over 100,000 innocent iraqis included tortured thousands and thousands of innocent innocent iraqis.

Hooray for true christians. God bless you. He truly do.

To Religious Right people, sure time is on your side now because of Bush but karma is on our side. Remember that always, bub.

Edit: Whoever supports the death penalty while preaching against abortion is hypocrisy. Life is life. Death is death. Angel nailed it perfectly. Religious Right people will never, never and never understand that conception ever. You ate the cow meat and vegetarians can call you "murderer". You stomped on the bug and killed it, buddhists can call you "murderer". List go on and on. As I said, life is life.

You are making me mad with your none sense logic debates.

You made no logic debate with the Bush's situation! In this world and we already declared that Saddam H. was bad man. He killed his own people with chemicals and tortured them with painful experiences. Jesus Christ already opposes with those actions. Jesus wants the world to be peace. Saddam opposed to have world peace.

Now to my rebuttal to you. Who will clean them up? Of course, we American had to take care of it. Therefore, Bush decided to go war with Iraqi. Those people with evil thoughts still love Saddam's thought against his people. SO you are asking to leave those killer people alone? No way Jesus never wanted them to kill more people that broke his 10th commandments. Therefore, we have to do our business to kick them out of this planet to prevent more killing and tortures.

With our military system and we cannot patrol every one’s actions toward to other countries. Therefore they could torture or kill or whatever. At least we did punish to those people that tortures or whatever. Saddam’s thinking is different from this country. He believes and encourages people to torture. That is bad.

Other rebuttal for you. You said Hitler is bad man? You made judge on him!!! Now you said that FDR was murder because he commanded our country to kill Nazi. Therefore, you are saying that you want to let Nazi to keep their killing with Jews, Homosexual, etcs. You are making no sense with your rebuttal on Reba, Really.

Ok Magatsu, you are making other none sense logic debate over the “murders” with animals, and bugs. Now you are saying that we should not pull out the potatoes, herbs, and cut grasses. Why? You are saying that we are “murdering” them. How can you order to stay alive if you are not allowed to eat plants, bugs, and animals? Please use your common sense next time.

Now you said leave it woman’s body. Therefore you let the abortion to kill the fetus which they are living thing just same as plants, animals, and bugs. Therefore, you call those women with abortion as MURDER! Man you are messing up with your points with your previous posts.

The animals, plants, and bugs may not have soul life. However, they are still living thing. Murder is something that we kill someone soul’s life for example with Humans. Let me hook up the dictionary’s definition with murder. Here it is. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. From www.dictionary.com

Now you said that you were Christian. It means that you are not Christian. Suddenly that you called ^Angel^ as true Christian and while you are not Christian. That is something messing around with that logic thing.

Can you define what is True Christian?
 
Reba said:
Sin is thinking, saying, or doing something that is against God's commands. Sin is also disobeying and not doing something that God commands.

That is just your OPINION, Reba, and in my mind a totally illogical one.
If God is All-Powerful and Perfect, He would not NEED to "command."
He would have everything totally in control.
Your idea of a God is a very weak God, one who impotently gnashes His teeth at things that do not go His way.

The universe in infinitely vast, and you make it sound like this miniscule speck called Earth is the deciding factor in all its workings.
 
Beowulf said:
Let's see...
"Christians" support the death penalty for murderers.
"Christians" believe that abortion is murder.
Therefore, "Christians" want to see mothers executed.
Such sickening sickening hypocricy.

Phooey, you "preachers" are just ranting nuts.

I warning you not say "phooey!" at Preacher! God is eyes on you! If you called bad language at preacher. Don't do that! I warning you! God is watch you. God know what happen about the Abortion. Look, if the mothere who had a pregancy, if mother don't want to keep baby, if mother want to kill the baby pregancy. That wrong! If mother don't want baby, give to Adortion. That mean give to other new parent. That mean don't need to worry about baby. That easy for life.
 
scottw said:
I warning you not say "phooey!" at Preacher! God is eyes on you! If you called bad language at preacher. Don't do that! I warning you! God is watch you. God know what happen about the Abortion. Look, if the mothere who had a pregancy, if mother don't want to keep baby, if mother want to kill the baby pregancy. That wrong! If mother don't want baby, give to Adortion. That mean give to other new parent. That mean don't need to worry about baby. That easy for life.


Scott, You are preaching too along with the others Christen pushers, Quiet! Again you people are not God, So Zip it! You are not perfect you are a sinner too. Reba is no preacher, She is not God. We have one God, We have our savior Jesus those two are the only ones are allow to preach us not any of you are allowed to so keep your judging to yourself :bye:
 
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