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You say CI is an attack on Deaf culture because doctors make a recommendation that kids not learn ASL.
No. I state ci is a technology of normalization, and the negative policies of those involved in the trade towards sign language aquisition for implanted babies and children, so that the implanted do not revert back to being deaf is having a far reaching and deeply negative impact on our language and our culture.
But deaf kids of hearing parents are going to see an ENT and AuD regardless as to whether they get a CI or not. It's that first appointment, when teh doctor says "You child has profound hearing loss" and then starts to make recommendations "here are your options..." that it's too late. You say that doctors making these recommendations is why CI is bad, but these recommendations come before CI. You've been arguing that doctors recommending against ASL is the death of ASL. So yes, you are arguing that by seeing a doctor even once, it's too late.
I am discussing the polcies of doctors and adiologists involved in the ci trade. If the negative policy towards sign is brought up in the first meeting as you seem to believe, or later is prob dictated more on the individual level regarding the spacific patients.
And yet you were arguing that since it's legal (age of consent) it doesn't matter. So why now are you arguing against this legal act, but used the same argument (it's legal) to defend age of consent?
There has never been any argument to the contrary. Indeed absolutely, there is no doubt about it, ci is legal. If you cannot descern the difference between age of consent laws rwgarding sex, and implanting babies and children against there will, or ignoring their will, then im sad to state i doubt very much the rest of this conversation will bare much fruit.
This is why seeing a doctor even once makes it too late. It's not CI that's the problem then, it's seeing a doctor and having him recommend whatever the sheeple will believe that you don't want them to.
If thats what you belive cool.
Forming a business for profit is not a conspiracy. Conspiracy suggests cloak and dagger, hidden from the public, sneaky... Conspiracy is a term that gets associated with people who think Roswell has hidden aliens and the government is implanting us with chips while we sleep.
Every idiology will have its adherents who will conspire with eachother to further its goal. Why you have a hard time grasping this is anybodies guess.
Not every conspiricy need be illegal, or hush, let me ask you a question.
Was the milan conference a conspiracy?
So if mood and mind have changed, why apply the same logic, same stereotypes, that existed in the past just because throughout history those problems existed? You're carrying those problems forward instead of leaving them in the past.
The problems still exist. And are still very real. Audism is still ingrained and rampant, discrimination against Deaf is still very much a biting problem with sharp teeth. You dont know the half of it. Your not a signer, you havnt felt the sting. You are by no means unique in a newly hh guy comming around and denying to our face our history, facts or what we go through on a daily basis. Its common enough man. But i hope you stick around allot longer, and become Deaf, i think you just need to absorb it all thats all...and i hope you do.
You want things to be better for the Deaf community. You understand that Deaf education is underfunded. You know that these reasons drive people to mainstream their kids. Parents want kids to have the greatest chance for success. So long as mainstreaming leads to a greater chance of success, parents will choose it.
Does soul crushing mainstream lead to better chances of success? Nice pitch though. No doubt about Deaf ed being under funded
In order to lift up Deaf education, it needs money. Money comes from people who have it. The mainstream people have it. Turn them to your side, bring the money, bring the education, uplift the Deaf community. Make the world a better place for the kids, give them the opportunity to succeed.
Alright, well clearly we have different views and measures regarding the above, and how to do it.
Arguing against CI does none of that. It just further alienates and triggers a stronger opposite reaction from mainstream culture.
And arguing for ci just further alienates Deaf culture and triggers a negative reaction from us towards you.
Have some situational awarness man. Really.
I am not alone. I am one of many. We wont shut up. We wont go meakly into the night. We wont be assimilated. There is a spectre haunting the oralists, the spectre of sign...behind the naked facade of happy beaks flapping, behind the vail of false peddled succsesses, from the first Deafie who signed to a hearie "get lost", to the burnt vesage and toppled bust of alaxender bell.....(cant remember the fest.....meh)
Sign
Will
Set
You
Free!
