A Motorcycle Thread About Absolutely Nothing!

Here's the info I lifted from Harley forum.

The 06 heat management varies from previous years as follows

All Models

Similar strategy as current with different parameters.

Normal operating Idle reduced from 1000 to 950.

Hot engine idle reduced from 900 to 800.

Spark timing, air fuel ratio and skip spark all utilized to reduce engine generated heat

RPM's will automatically be increased if required to maintain proper battery voltage.

Also Another Forum that guy advise:

Yep, you'll need to adjust depending on outside temp. from time to time AFTER the bike is warmed up. Even when it's hot I need to leave my choke on for a few miles-then just reach down and push it closed and off you go. You can get close by ear. Remember they are vertical twins and they like to spin a bit at idle. Don't let it "lope" like a V-twin-set it to the point where it "sings" a bit. You'll know if it's too high-when the bike is warm and you get off the gas for a light-if it wants to pull a bit you are too high. If it stalls when you take off unless you give it a good dose of throttle-it's too low. The sweet spot sounds like it's turning over smoothly with no "lag" between paulses (which is how a V-twin sounds).
Don't sweat it too much-a touch high is way better than a bit low (oil pump and all) but soon enough you'll feel the correct range and be fine.

It's worth for me to try it.

Catty
 
purplecatty said:
Here's the info I lifted from Harley forum.

The 06 heat management varies from previous years as follows

All Models

Similar strategy as current with different parameters.

Normal operating Idle reduced from 1000 to 950.

Hot engine idle reduced from 900 to 800.

Spark timing, air fuel ratio and skip spark all utilized to reduce engine generated heat

RPM's will automatically be increased if required to maintain proper battery voltage.

Also Another Forum that guy advise:

Yep, you'll need to adjust depending on outside temp. from time to time AFTER the bike is warmed up. Even when it's hot I need to leave my choke on for a few miles-then just reach down and push it closed and off you go. You can get close by ear. Remember they are vertical twins and they like to spin a bit at idle. Don't let it "lope" like a V-twin-set it to the point where it "sings" a bit. You'll know if it's too high-when the bike is warm and you get off the gas for a light-if it wants to pull a bit you are too high. If it stalls when you take off unless you give it a good dose of throttle-it's too low. The sweet spot sounds like it's turning over smoothly with no "lag" between paulses (which is how a V-twin sounds).
Don't sweat it too much-a touch high is way better than a bit low (oil pump and all) but soon enough you'll feel the correct range and be fine.

It's worth for me to try it.

Catty
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oooh my bad. I misread your posts above. now I see what you mean... I have the similar problem with my bike where it just suddenly stalled when I get to red light but my mechanic said it's normal especially when you just start the bike. Just need to warm up the engine, you know? but if that's not the case - it could be because of random computer miscalibration with the throttle (damn stupid moody Fuel Injection and all these computer stuff :lol: ).

For example - even though my throttle is positioned at Position 0... sometimes the computer views it as Position -10 which made my RPM too low so when I ride to stop light, it stalled. My mechanic told me a simple procedure to reset the computer to recalibrate the throttle position. very annoying cuz my bike does this few times a week.

I'm guessing some possible causes for your bike
1. your timing or something in your engine/computer/etc. is off so it needs to be recalibrated (which you stated that previous owner may have messed around with it)
2. double-check your parts like spark plug, carb, fluids, fluid tubes, air flow tube, or whatever to make sure they're clear of any obstruction
3. if your bike has a choke - warm it up more (i think 5 minutes but a lot of people get impatient and they wait for like 1-2 min)
4. bad battery or faulty wiring - if the battery's getting poor recharge, this causes your regulator to increase its charge and longer which leads to melting some wiring or some electrical components
5. ....... human error :) - like you said in your previous post - you just need to give it more oomph in right gear and you're good
 
Jiro said:
oooh my bad. I misread your posts above. now I see what you mean... I have the similar problem with my bike where it just suddenly stalled when I get to red light but my mechanic said it's normal especially when you just start the bike. Just need to warm up the engine, you know? but if that's not the case - it could be because of random computer miscalibration with the throttle (damn stupid moody Fuel Injection and all these computer stuff :lol: ).

For example - even though my throttle is positioned at Position 0... sometimes the computer views it as Position -10 which made my RPM too low so when I ride to stop light, it stalled. My mechanic told me a simple procedure to reset the computer to recalibrate the throttle position. very annoying cuz my bike does this few times a week.

I'm guessing some possible causes for your bike
1. your timing or something in your engine/computer/etc. is off so it needs to be recalibrated (which you stated that previous owner may have messed around with it)
2. double-check your parts like spark plug, carb, fluids, fluid tubes, air flow tube, or whatever to make sure they're clear of any obstruction
3. if your bike has a choke - warm it up more (i think 5 minutes but a lot of people get impatient and they wait for like 1-2 min)
4. bad battery or faulty wiring - if the battery's getting poor recharge, this causes your regulator to increase its charge and longer which leads to melting some wiring or some electrical components
5. ....... human error :) - like you said in your previous post - you just need to give it more oomph in right gear and you're good
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My Bike don't have computer. It's carbuerated. But Ignition is electronic. I found out that idle was too low. I calibrated idle to make it faster and it finally smooth when riding on steady speed.

I learned something from my friend that his Uncle who is a Hell Angle gang member, he told him that must use Premium gasoline, not regular gasoline for all brands of motorcycle. Reason.. Because regular gasoline gums up or clogs carbeuators over the time.. Premium gasoline don't, it runs cleaner and smoother. Less maintenance on carbeuator. So I gave it a try on my motorcycle. I filled up Premium gas and cost me $10 :lol: After a long ride back home, It started to improve and idling is better noticeably.

You MIGHT want to experiment with Premium gasoline on your motorcycle.

My other friend told me he cleans carbeuator by mixing gasoline with part transmission fluid and he use the car until it runs low on gas then fill up gas. It did clean carbeuator and ran better. I was afraid to do that on my motorcycle tho.

As for choke part, I did warm it up by pulling choke 1/2 way to let it warm up for few minutes then 1/4th choke afterward. Once it's warmed up, I open up the choke and it ran goodl.. So I doin't think it's the problem because It was already stalling when it's hot after long ride.

Catty
 
I went to Harbor Freight Tools store today and They do have Automotive multimeter, the problem is that Tachometer and Dwell is for engine that is 3 cylinders and up, none are 1 or 2 cylinders. Oh well. guess I have to figure it out myself unless I ran into someone with V-Twin motorcycle and ask them about Idle speed. I can have them calibrate it right on the spot :lol: cuz my bike have idle tuning knob attached to tube to carb.

Catty
 
purplecatty said:
My Bike don't have computer. It's carbuerated. But Ignition is electronic. I found out that idle was too low. I calibrated idle to make it faster and it finally smooth when riding on steady speed.

I learned something from my friend that his Uncle who is a Hell Angle gang member, he told him that must use Premium gasoline, not regular gasoline for all brands of motorcycle. Reason.. Because regular gasoline gums up or clogs carbeuators over the time.. Premium gasoline don't, it runs cleaner and smoother. Less maintenance on carbeuator. So I gave it a try on my motorcycle. I filled up Premium gas and cost me $10 :lol: After a long ride back home, It started to improve and idling is better noticeably.

You MIGHT want to experiment with Premium gasoline on your motorcycle.

My other friend told me he cleans carbeuator by mixing gasoline with part transmission fluid and he use the car until it runs low on gas then fill up gas. It did clean carbeuator and ran better. I was afraid to do that on my motorcycle tho.

As for choke part, I did warm it up by pulling choke 1/2 way to let it warm up for few minutes then 1/4th choke afterward. Once it's warmed up, I open up the choke and it ran goodl.. So I doin't think it's the problem because It was already stalling when it's hot after long ride.

Catty
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ah I know you have carburetor. I was just rambling about my motorcycle and I was hoping my story may somehow give you a clue :lol:

so he suggested you to try premium gasoline? hmmmm :hmm: something I learned today. Never thought carburetor would like a higher octane gas. but my motorcycle requires regular gas. I definitely don't want to risk knocking/pinging my engine with premium.

looks like you've got your little problem solved! ... well I hope!
 
he's got one too many redbulls :lol:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp8TTAIiDHo[/ame]
 
purplecatty said:
I went to Harbor Freight Tools store today and They do have Automotive multimeter, the problem is that Tachometer and Dwell is for engine that is 3 cylinders and up, none are 1 or 2 cylinders. Oh well. guess I have to figure it out myself unless I ran into someone with V-Twin motorcycle and ask them about Idle speed. I can have them calibrate it right on the spot :lol: cuz my bike have idle tuning knob attached to tube to carb.

Catty
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How about this?

Vapor Digital Gauge at Trail Tech Home

I am not sure if it's good.
 
Jiro said:
ew... best to stick with analog cuz it matches with his bike. I've never liked digital display. Hated it.
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Well. It's Catty choose since he went to HF to looking for DMM which it is digital display. So I thought I like share with him.
 
The Highlander said:
Well. It's Catty choose since he went to HF to looking for DMM which it is digital display. So I thought I like share with him.
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DMM =

multimeter.jpg
?
 
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYoRWcPJlSQ[/ame]


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPscwmfQPQ[/ame]
 
Jiro said:
ah I know you have carburetor. I was just rambling about my motorcycle and I was hoping my story may somehow give you a clue :lol:

so he suggested you to try premium gasoline? hmmmm :hmm: something I learned today. Never thought carburetor would like a higher octane gas. but my motorcycle requires regular gas. I definitely don't want to risk knocking/pinging my engine with premium.

looks like you've got your little problem solved! ... well I hope!
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Yup, Thanks for giving me clues.

I guess that it's an experience that motorcycle rider learned. My friend also mentioned that other guy said the same thing what his Uncle said.

As for me, It won't hurt to try Premium gasoline because Octane is only several step higher. I wouldn't try Alcohol on my bike :rofl:

Maybe you can try Mid grade gasoline??


Catty
 
purplecatty said:
Yup, Thanks for giving me clues.

I guess that it's an experience that motorcycle rider learned. My friend also mentioned that other guy said the same thing what his Uncle said.

As for me, It won't hurt to try Premium gasoline because Octane is only several step higher. I wouldn't try Alcohol on my bike :rofl:

Maybe you can try Mid grade gasoline??


Catty
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oh yea - I forgot to post way earlier that one of the possible reasons for stalling is bad clutch or bad/misaligned clutch cable but that's not the case now...

I should ask my mechanic about trying higher octane gas.
 
The Highlander said:
My bad. I don't noticed you put "?" after a picture.

Yes. That's correct.

Some people called "Automotive multimeter", "DMM", or "DVOM"
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calling tachometer as "automotive multimeter"? huh... interesting.
 
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