A Motorcycle Thread About Absolutely Nothing!

Highlander, Jiro!,

You've veered million mile off the course on Thread over voltmeter.. Let's just drop it and get back on Motorcycle topic.

to be honest, Voltmeter is a Voltmeter, I have many of these and didn't care as long as it reads voltage. So hush it!

Catty
 
why should I ask? This thread is about motorcycle so stick with motorcycle topic, not car. Use your common sense.

Quit whine and battery issue is battery issue. Deal with it.


huh what? why are you talking about a mechanical failure? That's a completely different subject. If your alternator is bad, then your motorcycle or car will most likely cannot function.

What mechanical?


$245 battery tester? utterly useless for 99.9999% of us. who wants to spend 30 min to take the cover out and measure for CCA and electrolyte? If it needs some electrolyte - I'll pour some Gatorade in it :roll:

Quit whine about spend 30min to take the cover out. Everyone do that. Only take it off when you notice something wrong. What if voltmeter tell you that battery failed then you still spend 30min to take the cover out. What your point?

$245? gimme a break. My mechanic uses some simple $20 multimeter from radio shack that's much older than your dogs' ages combined. My other car mechanic uses same thing. Imagine if I told him that I bought a $245 battery tester. He would kick me out and say - go to dealership, rich boy.

Then your mechanic is very simple for electricity.


Mind you - he has extensive mechanic experience with over 20 years. He was originally a commercial truck mechanic. He can fix any vehicles and motorcycles. He is a highly-respected and knowledgeable mechanic around here. You might learn a thing or two from him thru me.

Eww. $20 then your mechanic is electricity basic. The commercial truck mechanic with $20 multimeter. I don't believe you. I saw few students bought a cheap $20-$60 and not really very well and not correct to read like 0.05volts. Sometime, they borrom my DMM Fluke 88 or their teacher's Fluke 89. They really love it and few days later. They got Fluke like us.

I've never heard of anybody interested in knowing how much CCA and electrolyte the battery has. For heaven's sake.... we're just some regular Joe enjoying our days riding around. Voltmeter's good enough and that's optional. Again - if it's low on electrolyte, I'll pour some Gatorade in :roll:

You never heard of that because no one care about battery's deep statue. Just wild guess by replace a battery then see if solve a problem or not. The multimeter still tell you error info.

The primary purpose for a simple voltmeter is to monitor your voltage level so you can monitor if your aftermarket accessories are drawing too much power from motorcycle. It's typically 14V - more or less. It is common especially during cold season for accessories to eat more juice than the alternator can recharge which will cause your voltage to drop. The voltmeter will warn the rider. That is the primary purpose of voltmeter. It's not a battery checker or alternator checker or whatever.

ok.

If the alternator is bad, your bike will most likely not work. You will not be able to start it. If it did start, you will not be able to ride it because of misfiring or whatever. Again - voltmeter's purpose is to monitor your voltage level. that's it. very simple. purely electrical.

The alternator failed cause engine wont start? Nope. In fact, engine can start without alternator. The engine can run around around 10-30 min depend on CCA till battery run out then slow down then shut down. Get a fact.


Faulty alternator is a mechanical issue. it has nothing to do with voltmeter or battery. Voltmeter's job is to tell you the voltage of your bike at its current state. that's it.

Yes, the alternator is part of electricity and it do matter for battery.




there's no such thing as voltmeter with built-in jump-starter. Voltmeter is a simple device that connects to power source and tells you the voltage. that's it. Again - go buy a motorcycle first and see for yourself on how to jump-start it. let me know how long it takes for you to do that.


LOL, I was joke about voltmeter with built-in jump-starter. I don't believe you fall of that.


Like I said - if your motorcycle went dead and you need to jump-start it... you need to get a jumper cable to connect to your battery, right? so how are you gonna do that? you have to take the cover out, right? But problem is - the motorcycle doesn't have "pop-the-hood" thing. You need to remove several screws and nudge it around to remove the stubborn cover.. jump-start it... and then fiddle the stubborn cover back in and screw it in. that's a 30-min job and I feel sorry for others if it takes longer than that because of the way their motorcycle is designed.

Easy, Jump-starter dont mean direct to battery. You can do other way without touch a battery. I did that before from other car before because I can't pop the rear door off due lock power by electric. Sure, I can do under two minutes Learn about trick.

Like that.

Don't have a BMW Trickle Charger? - Pelican Parts Technical BBS


if the voltmeter tells me that voltage is low... then I simply connect battery tender when I get home and leave it overnight. The voltmeter can tell you BEFORE battery goes dead overnite after you park. :)

You still spend 30min to remove the cover off for recharger. Right?


cool. a kick-start dirt bike. did you know most of (or probably ALL) dirt motorcycles are not street-legal? 99.999% of us here in this thread do not ride dirt bike. But Gruumer does. thanks for useless information.

Ride dirt bike is a motorcycle. Stop be excuse. Yes, it's good information that ride dirt bike can run without battery and you think motorcycle won't run without battery which was not true.
 
one big question for you - why are you being so fussy about this? you funny! It's just some $10 voltmeter that takes about 15 minutes to install and it's purely optional! I cannot believe you suggested a $245 battery tester. Voltmeter is WIDELY used by MANY seasoned riders including Iron Butt racers. Please do me a favor and research on motorcycle voltmeter before you reply back.

Kuryakyn LED Voltmeter


Motorcycle Voltage Monitor
DigitalMeter.com - Digital Voltmeters and Temperature Meters for Motorcycles and Automotive Applications
Voltmeter FAQ
DATEL Voltmeter for Motorcycle Battery Monitor
LED Voltmeter - Sampson Long Distance Motorcycle Products
LED Voltmeter - Motorcycle Lighting

Because you are not technical. This is for technical only. I already explained very clear.

That's why most technical use battery tester.

Yuasa Battery Tester - Cruiser Motorcycle - Motorcycle Superstore
 
after lengthy discussion over IM.... we have reached to a mutual understanding and it's all good :)

To summarize -
1. voltmeter is OPTIONAL (but strongly recommended) and it is a nice $10 solution If you have a motorcycle with weak alternator or an adventure motorcycle filled with accessories and gadgets especially heating equipment
2. voltmeter is usually not necessary to have if you ride cruiser bike or Harley Davidson because it's got a very strong engine... V-twin or whatnot. Also not necessary if you have sportbike because well - you don't install much gadgets on it anyway
3. with voltmeter - you're able to tell if your accessories are consuming more power than your alternate can recharge so you can simply turn off one of your power-hogging accessory
4. Voltmeter is nice to look at because you can know if your bike needs to be recharged for overnight
5. jump-starting motorcycle thru outlet is dangerous... which is why you have to take the cover out to jump-start it directly to battery. Depending on your battery size and voltage... it's risky to jump-start it with a car but if you're in a crap situation - do it at your own risk. It's advisable to call tow truck (usually provided by your insurance) even though you most likely will have to wait couple hours but they come with a battery jump starter. If you're able to find a local mechanic with battery jump starter... cool beano.
6. Battery Tender is a must-have because we all do not ride during winter time so what to do for 3-4+ months? trickle the battery. Battery Tender comes with additional wiring to make it easier for you to trickle it so that you don't have to remove the cover to recharge the battery
 
came across this informative site about installing additional lights or upgrading your headlight - Suzuki DR650 Headlight Page

be aware that when installing additional light - make sure your motorcycle is capable of producing enough juice.
 
hhhmmmm....... You can custom-make a lightbar and use any other light because it's brighter and draws less currents than stock version. Some variety to pick - Euro, Fog, Flood, etc. different color, different strength, etc. All entirely up to you.

As for Crashbar, I would plan on adding folding footrest on outside ends.

My former owner told me it had 2nd battery. It did have battery tender plug wired to battery. He didn't have one, he said the former owner before him installed it. I will check the voltage of battery to see how good the charging rate are.
2 batteries? interesting.

I didn't need voltmeter or ammeter on my motorcycle. I rather keep it simple like the way I wanted. I probably will rig wire to certain spot where I can jump start or charge battery on one side make things easier for me rather than taking seat off.

Catty
IMO - I wouldn't do the wiring to make it easier to jump-start it. It's risky and dangerous. beside.. how often do you have to jump-start it? probably 1-2x times a year.

but wiring it for charging purpose... just buy a Deltran battery tender because it comes with additional wires to make it easier for you to recharge it without having to remove a seat or cover.

example
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after lengthy discussion over IM.... we have reached to a mutual understanding and it's all good :)

To summarize -
1. voltmeter is OPTIONAL (but strongly recommended) and it is a nice $10 solution If you have a motorcycle with weak alternator or an adventure motorcycle filled with accessories and gadgets especially heating equipment
2. voltmeter is usually not necessary to have if you ride cruiser bike or Harley Davidson because it's got a very strong engine... V-twin or whatnot. Also not necessary if you have sportbike because well - you don't install much gadgets on it anyway
3. with voltmeter - you're able to tell if your accessories are consuming more power than your alternate can recharge so you can simply turn off one of your power-hogging accessory
4. Voltmeter is nice to look at because you can know if your bike needs to be recharged for overnight
5. jump-starting motorcycle thru outlet is dangerous... which is why you have to take the cover out to jump-start it directly to battery. Depending on your battery size and voltage... it's risky to jump-start it with a car but if you're in a crap situation - do it at your own risk. It's advisable to call tow truck (usually provided by your insurance) even though you most likely will have to wait couple hours but they come with a battery jump starter. If you're able to find a local mechanic with battery jump starter... cool beano.
6. Battery Tender is a must-have because we all do not ride during winter time so what to do for 3-4+ months? trickle the battery. Battery Tender comes with additional wiring to make it easier for you to trickle it so that you don't have to remove the cover to recharge the battery

Yep, We are good and I am agreed with you.
 
2 batteries? interesting.

No, just 2nd battery. Remmy that my Volusia is 8 years old so that's why. I believe first owner might have replaced it too.

As for lightbar. I would rather stock than customized. I wouldn't care how bright it is lol. I just want the one that can adjusted to spread out lights. I like the "Hog" look.

Someone outbid me so I can just wait for another time but I can go to Motorcycle Swap Meet to find one with good price.

For Charger/ Jumper kit that you posted. I've seen one at Cycle Gear store. I do have plug that was wired to battery and it was probably from first owner who have one. I planned to remove it because it's no use.

Catty
 
I just bought Crash bar for Volusia for $120 thru Ebay. So I have one more left to look for is light bar. Most light bars tend to cost $179 and up. I am looking for used one for less than $120 in good condition. I am sure that Motorcycle Swap Meet would have one for a reasonable price.

My friend recommend me to get Crash bar to protect engine against drop since it's my first owned motorcycle. I plan on adding footrest on both side of crash bar so I can rest feet on it while riding :lol:

Catty
 
I just bought Crash bar for Volusia for $120 thru Ebay. So I have one more left to look for is light bar. Most light bars tend to cost $179 and up. I am looking for used one for less than $120 in good condition. I am sure that Motorcycle Swap Meet would have one for a reasonable price.

My friend recommend me to get Crash bar to protect engine against drop since it's my first owned motorcycle. I plan on adding footrest on both side of crash bar so I can rest feet on it while riding :lol:

Catty

he is right! and I wish I can rest my feet like that
 
No, just 2nd battery. Remmy that my Volusia is 8 years old so that's why. I believe first owner might have replaced it too.

As for lightbar. I would rather stock than customized. I wouldn't care how bright it is lol. I just want the one that can adjusted to spread out lights. I like the "Hog" look.

Someone outbid me so I can just wait for another time but I can go to Motorcycle Swap Meet to find one with good price.

For Charger/ Jumper kit that you posted. I've seen one at Cycle Gear store. I do have plug that was wired to battery and it was probably from first owner who have one. I planned to remove it because it's no use.

Catty
the plug - does it look like cigarette lighter plug?
 
is anyone going to daytona beach for biker week? i went there for bikeroktoberfest last year and biker week earlier this spring... had a lot of fun!
 
he is right! and I wish I can rest my feet like that

:lol: That's my friend's wise suggestion.

I ordered Crash Bar through Ebay for $120 with free shipping and handling. It's on the way from China :giggle: I did made sure it's a match for VL800. It would take 14 or a bit more days to arrive. Seller informed me that it's been shipped.

Catty
 
is anyone going to daytona beach for biker week? i went there for bikeroktoberfest last year and biker week earlier this spring... had a lot of fun!

Shoot! Wish I could go, I live in Kansas. :lol: There are small town called Cassoday in Kansas just started to have monthly motorcycle gathering. It's about 3 hrs from where I live. I read on newspaper that it's a family oriented rather than Sturgis, SD. They called it "Mini Sturgis".

Here's the article

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jul/22/town-grapples-booming-biker-rally/

Maybe I could go there for one weekend
 
cutest one I've seen today at motorcycle forum. twin girls.

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I just finally got crash bar today through mail. I tried to put it on and it did fit but the bolt hole did not line up just 1/4th inch because the crash bar bottom flange was drilled a bit far from the rounded end. Since it's a minor fix, I took it to my friend and he milled the hole so it can be closer to the rounded end. After I took it home and it finally fits and bolted in. It took some struggle for me to get bolt in. I had to ask my son to screw in bolt while I wrestle the crashbar. Crashbar isn't perfectly aligned so I am fully aware that it requires muscle to get it fitted in.

I was thinking about adding highway pegs on new crash bar but it turned out that my foot can't reach past crashbar sides. Forget the highway pegs. The original pegs on bottom of motorcycle is perfectly fine that I can rest my ankle on top of it while my foot rests on crashbar, perfect!

I saw the highway light attachment for crashbar in ebay (It show lights attached to crash bars). I didnt like it so Lightbars between main headlight would be perfect. In fact that frequently, when motorcycle behind me with lightbar really attracts me and can't miss it while driving regardless how close or far from me. IMHO is that lightbar is safer than highway lights attach to crashbar.


here's the pix!

Catty
 

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