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Interesting article I read in the August 2014 AMA magazine concerning NY:
By Brian LeSchander...."I am a 59-year-old married male, a homeowner, a business owner, a pilot and former airplane owner, a skydiver, a BASE jumper (retired), a ski instructor, and last but not least, a dedicated motorcyclist since the age of 12.
My motorcycle-only checkpoint story began on Sunday morning, May 25, 2014, as my wife and I donned our full-face helmets and riding gear and climbed aboard our 2005 touring motorcycle for about a two-hour ride. We headed east on New York Routes 5 and 20 to meet my brother in Auburn.
We were about an hour and a half into this ride when we crested a hill and joined what turned out to be a very long line established by the New York State troopers as a checkpoint. DWI checkpoints are common on holiday weekends, but this turned out to be something I had yet to experience in my 40-plus years of riding.
I was directed by a trooper to pull into a dead-end road less than 50 yards long with at least a dozen bikes parked in every direction. The area was covered with rocks, stones and debris. I had an 850-pound motorcycle with a passenger aboard and would not have voluntarily chosen this as a stopping point.
I was ordered to shut down and get off the bike, produce my license, registration and insurance identification card. The officer held my documents and said he would return them to me after they did a lights, horn and tire check in case he had to write me a citation. The current New York State inspection sticker on this bike apparently wasn't sufficient. My paperwork was also in order. He still insisted that we proceed with the check. He did the check and with a smile, handed back my paperwork and released me.
I have the utmost respect for the police in this country. However, there were several things that could have been done differently at this checkpoint.
* First, regarding safety - allegedly, the whole point of this checkpoint - they compromised my and my wife's well being by directing us to an area that was not suited for maneuvering large motorcycles.
* Second, they had no organization at the checkpoint. People and motorcycles were parked and moving in every direction - another unsafe condition.
* Third, at this point in the ride, both my wife and I were in search of a rest room. We were held at this stop about 15-20 minutes with no available facilities.
Motorcycle-only checkpoints like this one are a clear case of discrimination and a transparent attempt at revenue gain. I wouldn't be as upset if they were stopping all vehicles and putting them through this check. They didn't - just motorcycles.
Aside from the inconvenience and discrimination of probably hundreds of motorcyclists that day, I also question whether the ratio of citations served that day justified the 12-15 officers on duty.
This checkpoint created a safety issue rather than preventing one."
In this same magazine I found another related excerpt:
By Jesse Erbaum....."Motorcycle only checkpoints (which are common in NYC) are referred to by locals as "motorcycle stop and frisk." They don't make anyone safer, and only feed the image that the NYPD is an illegitimate authority that enjoys harassing riders two or three times a week during the summer."
I did not know that NY was still doing this. Many states have been challenged and have stopped this practice.
Interesting article I read in the August 2014 AMA magazine concerning NY:
By Brian LeSchander...."I am a 59-year-old married male, a homeowner, a business owner, a pilot and former airplane owner, a skydiver, a BASE jumper (retired), a ski instructor, and last but not least, a dedicated motorcyclist since the age of 12.
My motorcycle-only checkpoint story began on Sunday morning, May 25, 2014, as my wife and I donned our full-face helmets and riding gear and climbed aboard our 2005 touring motorcycle for about a two-hour ride. We headed east on New York Routes 5 and 20 to meet my brother in Auburn.
We were about an hour and a half into this ride when we crested a hill and joined what turned out to be a very long line established by the New York State troopers as a checkpoint. DWI checkpoints are common on holiday weekends, but this turned out to be something I had yet to experience in my 40-plus years of riding.
I was directed by a trooper to pull into a dead-end road less than 50 yards long with at least a dozen bikes parked in every direction. The area was covered with rocks, stones and debris. I had an 850-pound motorcycle with a passenger aboard and would not have voluntarily chosen this as a stopping point.
I was ordered to shut down and get off the bike, produce my license, registration and insurance identification card. The officer held my documents and said he would return them to me after they did a lights, horn and tire check in case he had to write me a citation. The current New York State inspection sticker on this bike apparently wasn't sufficient. My paperwork was also in order. He still insisted that we proceed with the check. He did the check and with a smile, handed back my paperwork and released me.
I have the utmost respect for the police in this country. However, there were several things that could have been done differently at this checkpoint.
* First, regarding safety - allegedly, the whole point of this checkpoint - they compromised my and my wife's well being by directing us to an area that was not suited for maneuvering large motorcycles.
* Second, they had no organization at the checkpoint. People and motorcycles were parked and moving in every direction - another unsafe condition.
* Third, at this point in the ride, both my wife and I were in search of a rest room. We were held at this stop about 15-20 minutes with no available facilities.
Motorcycle-only checkpoints like this one are a clear case of discrimination and a transparent attempt at revenue gain. I wouldn't be as upset if they were stopping all vehicles and putting them through this check. They didn't - just motorcycles.
Aside from the inconvenience and discrimination of probably hundreds of motorcyclists that day, I also question whether the ratio of citations served that day justified the 12-15 officers on duty.
This checkpoint created a safety issue rather than preventing one."
In this same magazine I found another related excerpt:
By Jesse Erbaum....."Motorcycle only checkpoints (which are common in NYC) are referred to by locals as "motorcycle stop and frisk." They don't make anyone safer, and only feed the image that the NYPD is an illegitimate authority that enjoys harassing riders two or three times a week during the summer."
I did not know that NY was still doing this. Many states have been challenged and have stopped this practice.
Dang! I can't believe it!! In Kansas, they never have motorcycle 'stop and frisk'. Cops respects bikers as long as they obey laws. They are not picky like in NY. My motorcycle have Rebuilt Salvage title and sticker on it (hidden behind fork, perfect spot that DMV guy put in respectful manner), updated license sticker and registration. My concern is that I will be moving to Vermont next year, Since that NY is states away from VT. It sound like I may have to avoid problems by loading bike on trailer and cover it or use "horse trailer" to mask it. If I ever unload motorcycle at campground in NY and ride on highway, let cops pull me over and inspect it. I don't give a *** damn about it. I'm Kansas Redneck guy.
In State of KS, all cops even highway patrols are eyeing on all SPORT Bikers because it's illegal to wheelie and speeding, many accidents contributed from wheelie and speeding. They'll annoys you. So whoever have Sport motorcycle, don't wheelie or $500 fines if you do. They passed the law few years ago. Before the law, I saw kids wheelie their Sportbike at 70mph on highway (straight up, not at angle). My sons saw them and I told them DON"T even think of that!!
GP motorcycles and Cruisers pose no issue and cops and highway patrols won't watch you as long as you are not doing anything stupid. They don't care about monkey bar height as long as you can handle it (use common sense) but not overtly tall monkeybar that can pose issue with squeezing lever quickly (saw youtube about African guys riding motorcycle with overtly tall monkeybar, that's stupid!!)
Its a real dumb idea for them to have motorcycle checkpoint. Are they expecting find any contrabands from state away? I believe just a few bikers do like excessive handlebar height, unsafe design ect. Sound like to me that NY is greedy for revenue. They need to find something better than just motorcycle checkpoint. I am concerned about Rebuilt Salvage issue if I cross state line to NY just to ride through. Are they overtly picky about it. If they asked me why rebuilt salvage, I would simply state that had a minor slow speed motorcycle/car accident and car hit rear of bike but no damage to swingarm and wheel, replaced bent exhaust pipes that's it. Overall body are in excellent shape and safe on highway.
I would like to know what's NY law allowing and disallowing regarding of motorcycle. Hope it's not all that complicated. I do have running spotlights on all the time for safety (Triangle of lights) but what about NY? If they disallowed that then they're plain stupid for not allow safety factors for bikers. I do know few states don't allow running spotlights, mine can be disconnected by wire connector.
Catty
no don't worry about it. motorcycle "stop and frisk" is only in NYC because we have serious problem with illegal riders causing havoc here. many riders ride ATV and non-street certified dirt bikes... and many of them are not licensed or insured... and handful of them are riding stolen bikes.
NYC Motorcycle Gang Closes Broadway, Again - YouTube
Crazy Motorcycle Stunts and Police Chases - YouTube
and you've heard about a motorcycle gang chasing after Range Rover and beating up the father.
Whew, Ok no problem. I won't do anything crazy like the Sport Bikers. Which means that I can relax and enjoy riding in NY state.
TinCanSailor did not mentioned specifically "Gang" issue. If he mentioned that, I wouldn't have to comment that.
Yes I saw video last Spring, that's crazy. Kid's fault for just slowing down and bump Range Rover front bumper. It's dumb move for him to make a big drama out of it.
Catty
What is "Vision Zero" law?
Question: My clutch cable snapped completely off from the lever. Both are stock. I see the cable itself is fairly easy to install, but have only seen it done with an aftermarket lever. Is there a specific part needed to install a new clutch cable to my lever, or just as is like the aftermarket lever? my bike is an '05 cbr600rr.
the goal of "Vision Zero" is to reduce casualty/accident rate caused by vehicles... basically "zero pedestrian casualty". and just prior to being signed into law... some lame duck politician attached a last-minute pork that targets motorcycles.
Vision Zero
Question: My clutch cable snapped completely off from the lever. Both are stock. I see the cable itself is fairly easy to install, but have only seen it done with an aftermarket lever. Is there a specific part needed to install a new clutch cable to my lever, or just as is like the aftermarket lever? my bike is an '05 cbr600rr.
Glad I don't live in NYC don't think I could handle that place.
Question: My clutch cable snapped completely off from the lever. Both are stock. I see the cable itself is fairly easy to install, but have only seen it done with an aftermarket lever. Is there a specific part needed to install a new clutch cable to my lever, or just as is like the aftermarket lever? my bike is an '05 cbr600rr.
It seems some people did not quite understand your question. You should not need any special tools or parts to replace the clutch cable. The oem lever should be pretty similar to the aftermarket ones.
Need gas for your motorcycle in China? Hmmmm, you can't use the pump, that is classified as unsafe, you have to go to the motorcycle box located at least ten feet from the station (to reduce risk of fire) and then use mandated fuel tea pot (about six of these to fill up a BMW R1150GS Touratech tank), to fill your tank. Yep THAT method is safe as gas splashes all over the station getting it from the pump, it splashes all over walking the thirty feet or so to the bike and creates impressive amounts of gas steam when it hits the hot engine!
No wonder the motorcycle fill up box has to be located away from the gas station.
Big government watching over your health (and speaking of watching, police cameras everywhere in the station as some of them would have let us fill up at the pump but they would just look up at camera and say not possible) or are they insuring you won't live long enough to worry about your old age?
Milton and I were (no idea where we were but may have been Sichuan) somewhere, and it was one of the stupid teapot provinces and at a station where it was strictly enforced. There were 2 small pots each big enough to make tea for an entire 30 person danwei but no more. Milton got in early getting the "good pot". I got the leaky one. Yeah, leaky one!!
There I was carrying it from the pump to my bike which of course was parked 30m away against the right hand side of the gas station. The walk to the bike created a stream of gasoline from pump to bike from the leaking pot. When I arrive at the Jialing and tried to get the spout into (or somewhere near) the opening on my gas tank I discovered that too was damaged. Now I have gasoline leaking from not just the bottom but now also the top and now all over my bike and over Motokai. As I was trying to salvage this ever so delicately Milton was my advocate firing at the attendant how in the world this could be safer than filling up at the pump??
Gasoline everywhere: Ground, Bike, Clothes, Motokai
Really? This is safer?
Motokai was re-filling his bike, wondering why there wasn’t much ended up in the tank. Note the puddle underneath his bike, which according to Sinopec is less a fire hazard than filling up at the pump:
Motokai finally gave up and switched to another kettle. Notice how the first teapot splays, side way, at the spout:
saw this in my FB feed -
I did some google search for similar issue and yep - same thing in Mongolia
and different person in China -