A Deaf's View Regarding CI

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100% BS that they can't swim.

I would like to know where he got his figure about injuries. The percentage seems pulled out of his....mind.

10 and up????? Seriously? That is the worst age to implant. They get very little benefit and don't have the patience to do the work it takes to make it better. Teens are impulsive and want immediate gratification.
 
faire_jour said:
100% BS that they can't swim.

They can't swim past 25 meters underwater, that's the limit. Too bad they won't be able to see beyond the depths of more than 25 meters because of CI. A shame really.

I would like to know where he got his figure about injuries. The percentage seems pulled out of his....mind.

Why not ask him?

10 and up????? Seriously? That is the worst age to implant. They get very little benefit and don't have the patience to do the work it takes to make it better. Teens are impulsive and want immediate gratification.
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And they can do that while being deaf. So you're saying that they cannot get gratification because they're deaf?

Yes 10 is a good age, but in my personal opinion, 18 is much better. An adult with the powers of making a fully informed decision on what they want to choose.

On the other thread, you used a personal pronoun when referring to a child as "MINE" as if the child is a piece of property rather than a human being. I have a problem with that.

Yes while I can be a firm parent, but I also LISTEN to the child. I do want to help shape the child's life, but I also do it by being not just a parent, but also as a guide, a friend, a mentor and more. I will not treat my child as a "piece of property" to do as I wish on a whim and disregard my child's personal feelings.

You're making it sound like that a deaf child will grow up to be a retard, that's far from the truth. A deaf child can do anything that a hearing person can do with the exception of hearing. A deaf child can be successful at anything he/she wants. You're ill informed knowledge is what's hindering the child, not the other way around.

Yiz
 
I agree with you Yiz...a deaf child most definitely wouldNOT grow up to be a retard if he or she doesn't get implanted and f&&&&##$ to those who thinks that.
 
Sorry most of the video seemed like BS to me. *shrug*
 
It seems some of you misunderstood him. He was saying people with CI can not go into scuba diving which it means swimming. My friend who used to go scuba diving till he got CI and stopped scuba diving because of CI risk. And my other CI friend now wear braclet saying he has CI in case if something happen to him alike car accident and need to go to ER then let doctor to know that he has CI instead of not knowing and send him to MRI.
 
jazzy said:
It seems some of you misunderstood him. He was saying people with CI can not go into scuba diving which it means swimming. My friend who used to go scuba diving till he got CI and stopped scuba diving because of CI risk. And my other CI friend now wear braclet saying he has CI in case if something happen to him alike car accident and need to go to ER then let doctor to know that he has CI instead of not knowing and send him to MRI.
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He says swim or scuba dive, he signs both. Also, you can scuba with a CI, up to 25 feet deep.
 
yizuman said:
And they can do that while being deaf. So you're saying that they cannot get gratification because they're deaf?

Yes 10 is a good age, but in my personal opinion, 18 is much better. An adult with the powers of making a fully informed decision on what they want to choose.

On the other thread, you used a personal pronoun when referring to a child as "MINE" as if the child is a piece of property rather than a human being. I have a problem with that.

Yes while I can be a firm parent, but I also LISTEN to the child. I do want to help shape the child's life, but I also do it by being not just a parent, but also as a guide, a friend, a mentor and more. I will not treat my child as a "piece of property" to do as I wish on a whim and disregard my child's personal feelings.

You're making it sound like that a deaf child will grow up to be a retard, that's far from the truth. A deaf child can do anything that a hearing person can do with the exception of hearing. A deaf child can be successful at anything he/she wants. You're ill informed knowledge is what's hindering the child, not the other way around.

Yiz
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I agree with the age of 18 and up because a 10 years old kid won't really understand death (as from meningitis).
I don't like CI in infants and young children.... all because the majority of hearing people have hang-ups about ASL. Sigh!
 
Some CI users have been told me that younger kids will have better hearing. I really think that young children do not understand the difference between temporary and permanent. It is hard for me to believe that some parents want their children to get their CI when they are 10 or younger because I think that the children are fragile like their brain is a sponge that absorbs new environment and learning fast. Maybe, a CI might interrupt their "sponge" brain that affect its learning. I don't even trust a doctor period no matter how good the doctor is. I think that yizuman's blog is right about forcing a kid to get the surgery that ruin his/her life without his/her permission.

I consider that 12 years old and older is probably okay. If a teenager is getting one, it is 50/50 chance due the brain's sponge become "hard". If it is adult, then it might be almost too late. If you are older adult, it's probably too late which mean that CI get a fewer frequencies, but still work for some areas. For elders, sorry it's bad news and probably still work but not much wider frequencies - maybe, the stem cells that might work someday.

Actually, my friend received her CI when she was a teenager, and she always keeps up with her mappings for her appointments. She loves her hearing so much because of so much sound frequencies. I assume that she has to set up her appointments for rest of her life to keep it up. Fortunately, she merged with hearing and deaf worlds.

For me, I personally am not interested in CI, but I rather to choose the stem cells in future.

If you want CI now, that's fine as long as you have a good research in case you decide to remove the CI and use the stem cells someday. I don't have that answer.

I was told that all CI users should make their appointment every three or six month, and then once a year for adjusting the sounds for their CI which give you to expand the frequencies. For example, you would able to hear the frog noise at night. You may able to hear the whisper sounds. All regular hearing aids have very limit of frequencies such from walking noise to running water or windy.

Mapping is another word for sound adjustment. If you don't follow up your adjustment, then you would have to start over every three or six months.
 
faire_jour said:
100% BS that they can't swim.

I would like to know where he got his figure about injuries. The percentage seems pulled out of his....mind.

10 and up????? Seriously? That is the worst age to implant. They get very little benefit and don't have the patience to do the work it takes to make it better. Teens are impulsive and want immediate gratification.
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I don't know what he was thinking, but I'm guessing he is saying you can't wear your processor... this also apply to hearing aids too. I have to ask him what he means. He could simply want to point out no matter what they do, they will be deaf here and there.
 
faire_jour said:
10 and up????? Seriously? That is the worst age to implant. They get very little benefit and don't have the patience to do the work it takes to make it better. Teens are impulsive and want immediate gratification.
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There are Plenty of deaf kids got implanted in their teens and they are satisfied with it.
 
You can swim underwater up to 25 feet deep, but he meant 25 METERS deep. 25 meters is the "safe" zone to go scuba diving. But this number is debatable. Personally, Ive gone further than 25 meters (about 90 feet), but just to get an idea of how "limiting" 25 meters is:

10 meters: typical marine life depth
18.2 meters: limited depth for open water divers (according to PADI)
30 meters: Deep Diving
40 meters: Recreational Diving Limit
40+: Technical Diving

So I'll never be a technical diver. Oh well, it's worth it anyway.
 
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