82 y.o. lady defends herself

Reba said:
She was fighting for her life, not her money.
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This is another "what if" type of scenario.

What if the man started attacking her because of her stubbornness to give up her purse? Then the guy made his. "you are too old to live anyways" statement??

That thought has crossed my mine.

:dunno:

Like I said.

I'm just happy that the mis fired shots did not hit innocent bystanders.

Shame she missed her target.

I believe she had a right to defend herself by any means.

Wal mart parking lots are loaded down with cameras. Has anyone released a clip or a screen shot of the guy that did this?
So perhaps someone can identify him?
 
Bebonang said:
I am shocked at what you are saying. That is not nice at all. You could have got penalty for saying that. You are no better than the attempted murderer.

As for Babyblue, I thought she might have fire only once to scare him or stop him. You are right that she might have hit someone in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart store. That is scary, but there was no report of being hit at the bystander. I am very glad that she is okay. Go, Granny!!!!! :D
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You don't understand what this person trying to convey, even after this person tried to explain it to you again again. I understand and agree-the government will not interfere with our rights to arm ourselves as American Citizens.


Go Granny and any other citizen protecting themselves and not waiting till it's too late for the government to step in to help.
 
rockin'robin said:
Yeah...and a .45 will stop a lot of innocent people in that parking lot too! 5 Shots and they all missed! And he was right in front of her! So she had to be "shooting wildly"...So...."what if" she shot an innocent person? Who was coming to her aid?

Forget the "what if's"! She had no training for a gun, she was "no match" for the robber/mugger at her age! In this situation, giving up the purse would have been best....and let the people who came to her aid overpower the mugger in order for her to stay alive.....NO amount of $$ in your purse is worth getting killed over....
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LOL, "let the people come to her aid" What people? Would you have helped her? She did what every citizen should do-she protected herself. If everyone did that we wouldn't have as much crime as we do now.
 
yizuman said:
Unfortunately with crimes going on in this day and age is due by and large to drug addiction. People who are addicted to drugs will commit crimes to get more drugs. Drug dealers don't care where the money comes from as long it fills their pocket.

This war on drugs is costing the lives of innocent people. So I suggest the following ways to eliminate this problem and save lives at the same time.

Legalize all drugs and tax them in the same manner as cigarettes and alcohol. Hey if people wanna slowly kill themselves doing cigs and alcohol, they should the same with the drugs. In fact, they're all drugs anyway. So let's tax all the idiots with all they're worth before they make a trip to six feet under.

This way, legalizing all drugs will put the drug dealers out of business and place the drugs under a controlled environment and crime will dramatically be reduced.

Yiz
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Exactly-kinda like they do in Amsterdam already :)
 
I can see both sides in this.

Even a trained shooter, can miss their target while being beaten.


The woman feared for her life. So she just kept shooting.
 
Babyblue said:
Wal mart parking lots are loaded down with cameras. Has anyone released a clip or a screen shot of the guy that did this?
So perhaps someone can identify him?
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Stephen Prickett is his name.
 
cdaigle430 said:
You don't understand what this person trying to convey, even after this person tried to explain it to you again again. I understand and agree-the government will not interfere with our rights to arm ourselves as American Citizens.


Go Granny and any other citizen protecting themselves and not waiting till it's too late for the government to step in to help.
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Rather a rude assumption. I see, from Bebonang's posts that she does understand. She simply thinks that sarcasm or not, it was uncalled for.
 
Reba said:
Stephen Prickett is his name.
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he had additional charges pressed against him too:

Additional charges in robbery try | The Sierra Vista Herald

Stephen Prickett, 29, is charged with attempted murder, three counts of aggravated assault, armed robbery, kidnapping and attempted theft of a vehicle.
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During the incident, police said, Prickett struck the victim, 82-year-old Mary Doutt, in the head with her own cane several times as he attempted to rob her.
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yizuman said:
Pepper spray are ineffective at close range, pepper spray will only serve to aggravate the aggressor even more.
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Untrue. There's no proof of that claim.

It literally blinds you and makes you lose your aggression... you'd wither in pain that would seem forever. The pepper in it is extremely potent.
 
netrox said:
Untrue. There's no proof of that claim.

It literally blinds you and makes you lose your aggression... you'd wither in pain that would seem forever. The pepper in it is extremely potent.
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Tell that to someone that is hopped up on dope and doesn't feel pain.... Just rage.

Some have been taised, sprayed, sicced on by K-9 and even shot. Individualy or combined. Has no effect on them. When a person is so high and hopped up on drugs they feel no pain and are lost in their own little world. Basically they feel invincible.

So I disagree with your statement.
 
Babyblue said:
Tell that to someone that is hopped up on dope and doesn't feel pain.... Just rage.

Some have been taised, sprayed, sicced on by K-9 and even shot. Individualy or combined. Has no effect on them. When a person is so high and hopped up on drugs they feel no pain and are lost in their own little world. Basically they feel invincible.

So I disagree with your statement.
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But they are exceptions, not the norm. Most criminals comply after they realize they're going nowhere.

When you're under the influence of potent drugs, your perception of pain is greatly reduced. PCP is one of the most dangerous drugs out there that literally makes you totally invincible to any kind of pain since it literally "disconnects" you from your pain, better than alcohol or other depressants yet with a notable difference - you can move around and exhibit incredible strength. A gun shot would NOT cause PCP user to stop either as there are documents of them continuing to be violent and dangerous, even could break their cuffs apart. Other depressants, you'd be SO slow to respond and be less active.
 
Nothing was said if the robber was "hopped up" on drugs...and yes, the robber was trying to steal her purse and her car. He wasn't just trying to beat her to death..he wanted that purse, along with her car keys....
And Walmart employees held the man down until the police got there, so she did get some help....there are some good people out there....

Granny was "no match" for the man!...At her age, she would have been better off to let the purse go, instead, she kept fighting and he kept hitting her with the cane. There were many eye-witness in that parking lot. And the police were close by. Even if he had gotten the purse and the car, he would have not been able to get very far.

She put her life in jeopardy, and others also by shooting wildly, 5 shots, and still missing the robber. It could have been a small child, even a baby, who got shot instead! She had "no training" with a gun, which is deadly! That's my point....

I would rather give up my purse, than to be beat to death with a cane.....I value my life and others in this situation.
 
rockin'robin said:
Nothing was said if the robber was "hopped up" on drugs...and yes, the robber was trying to steal her purse and her car. He wasn't just trying to beat her to death..he wanted that purse, along with her car keys....
And Walmart employees held the man down until the police got there, so she did get some help....there are some good people out there....
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They came to her aid AFTER they heard the gunshots.

Granny was "no match" for the man!...At her age, she would have been better off to let the purse go, instead, she kept fighting and he kept hitting her with the cane.
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Where did you read that he hit her only because she wouldn't give up her purse? The only quote from the perp that I've read was that he wanted to kill her.

There were many eye-witness in that parking lot. And the police were close by.
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Where did you read that? Link please.

Even if he had gotten the purse and the car, he would have not been able to get very far.
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You know that for a fact?

She put her life in jeopardy, and others also by shooting wildly, 5 shots, and still missing the robber. It could have been a small child, even a baby, who got shot instead! She had "no training" with a gun, which is deadly! That's my point....
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Where did you read that she had no training?

Did you know that even with lots of range training, trying to aim and shoot while being beaten down with a cane is not the same as shooting at a stationary paper target? Even police firing at a suspect don't always hit the target. The police get lots of training and practice on the range but that doesn't mean they will always hit the moving target.

I would rather give up my purse, than to be beat to death with a cane.....I value my life and others in this situation.
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How do you know for sure in this situation that the guy would have quit beating her with the cane if she gave him her purse? He said he was going to kill her, no ifs ands or buts.

This person did exactly what the crook wanted. He gave up the money but was still killed.

Posted on Wed, Mar. 17, 2010
Clerk shot, killed during robbery at convenience store

A man shot a clerk during a robbery early this morning at the 7-Eleven convenience store in south Kansas City. The clerk later died of his injuries.

The fatal shooting occurred about 1:05 a.m. at the 7-Eleven near East Bannister and James A. Reed roads.

The clerk was shot at least once. He called 911 to report that he had been shot in the abdomen.

When police arrived, they found him lying on the floor suffering from the gunshot wound. The clerk told police that the suspect entered the store and demanded money.

The clerk told police that after he gave the suspect money, the suspect pulled out a small handgun and shot the clerk.

The victim was transported to a hospital where he later died of his injuries.
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Clerk shot, killed during robbery at convenience store - KansasCity.com
 
Reba said:
They came to her aid AFTER they heard the gunshots.


Where did you read that he hit her only because she wouldn't give up her purse? The only quote from the perp that I've read was that he wanted to kill her.


Where did you read that? Link please.


You know that for a fact?


Where did you read that she had no training?

Did you know that even with lots of range training, trying to aim and shoot while being beaten down with a cane is not the same as shooting at a stationary paper target? Even police firing at a suspect don't always hit the target. The police get lots of training and practice on the range but that doesn't mean they will always hit the moving target.


How do you know for sure in this situation that the guy would have quit beating her with the cane if she gave him her purse? He said he was going to kill her, no ifs ands or buts.

This person did exactly what the crook wanted. He gave up the money but was still killed.


Clerk shot, killed during robbery at convenience store - KansasCity.com
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SIERRA VISTA — More charges have been filed against a man police said tried to rob a woman but ended up having a handgun pulled on him by the would-be victim.



Stephen Prickett, 29, is charged with attempted murder, three counts of aggravated assault, armed robbery, kidnapping and attempted theft of a vehicle.

At 3:12 p.m. Friday, police got a report of shots fired in the area behind Walmart, 657 N. Highway 90 Bypass. Officers were in the area and able to respond in about a minute, said Tracy Grady, Sierra Vista police public information officer.



During the incident, police said, Prickett struck the victim, 82-year-old Mary Doutt, in the head with her own cane several times as he attempted to rob her.

Doutt took a handgun from her purse and attempted to shoot Prickett, police said. He wrestled with her for the gun, police said. At one point during the struggle, Prickett pointed the gun at Doutt, Grady said. No one was shot during the incident.

Grady said Prickett also planned to steal Doutt’s car. When officers arrived on the scene, Prickett was being held down by Walmart
employees.

Doutt, who received injuries to her head and right arm, was taken to the Sierra Vista Regional Health Center for treatment, but was later transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Hospital staff said Doutt was in fair condition Saturday.

Prickett remains booked in the Cochise County Jail with a bond of $500,000, authorities said.

Additional charges in robbery try | The Sierra Vista Herald
 
rockin'robin said:
SIERRA VISTA — More charges have been filed against a man police said tried to rob a woman but ended up having a handgun pulled on him by the would-be victim.

Stephen Prickett, 29, is charged with attempted murder, three counts of aggravated assault, armed robbery, kidnapping and attempted theft of a vehicle.

At 3:12 p.m. Friday, police got a report of shots fired in the area behind Walmart, 657 N. Highway 90 Bypass. Officers were in the area and able to respond in about a minute, said Tracy Grady, Sierra Vista police public information officer.

During the incident, police said, Prickett struck the victim, 82-year-old Mary Doutt, in the head with her own cane several times as he attempted to rob her.

Doutt took a handgun from her purse and attempted to shoot Prickett, police said. He wrestled with her for the gun, police said. At one point during the struggle, Prickett pointed the gun at Doutt, Grady said. No one was shot during the incident.

Grady said Prickett also planned to steal Doutt’s car. When officers arrived on the scene, Prickett was being held down by Walmart
employees.

Doutt, who received injuries to her head and right arm, was taken to the Sierra Vista Regional Health Center for treatment, but was later transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Hospital staff said Doutt was in fair condition Saturday.

Prickett remains booked in the Cochise County Jail with a bond of $500,000, authorities said.

Additional charges in robbery try | The Sierra Vista Herald
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Exactly. Nothing new in this story. There is nothing that says she wasn't trained, that the perp wouldn't kill her if she gave up her purse, that the police were near, or that there were many witnesses present.

You made a lot of unproven assumptions.
 
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