7 year old girl abducted from my sisters apartment complex!( Updated 12.5.11)

Steinhauer, you haven't been supportive of rape victims on this forum. I suppose that it only counts when it's your family member or when the victim is dead.
 
sallylou said:
Steinhauer, you haven't been supportive of rape victims on this forum. I suppose that it only counts when it's your family member or when the victim is dead.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I have seen Steinhauer show concern for victims many times.
 
sallylou said:
Steinhauer, you haven't been supportive of rape victims on this forum. I suppose that it only counts when it's your family member or when the victim is dead.
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I did not know there were any rape victims on this forum to be supportive of. I will do as jaspeth asked and just remind you that if this is how you honestly feel, perhaps you should start another thread concerning this. Your accusation is highly inflammatory....but you knew that.

I would also add that perhaps you are mistaking my support for men who have been falsely accused of rape with not supporting actual rape victims. Those two issues are entirely different altogether.
 
Steinhauer said:
I did not know there were any rape victims on this forum to be supportive of. I will do as jaspeth asked and just remind you that if this is how you honestly feel, perhaps you should start another thread concerning this. Your accusation is highly inflammatory....but you knew that.

I would also add that perhaps you are mistaking my support for men who have been falsely accused of rape with not supporting actual rape victims. Those two issues are entirely different altogether.
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There is an important distinction: you should be supportive of all rape vitims. If their rape claims were proven fraudulent, then they are not victims. Still, be supportive of all rape victims.
 
Steinhauer, I am the rape survivor. I'm not lying. Deal with it. I know that not all men are bad, as I'm married to one.
 
Steinhauer said:
I did not know there were any rape victims on this forum to be supportive of. I will do as jaspeth asked and just remind you that if this is how you honestly feel, perhaps you should start another thread concerning this. Your accusation is highly inflammatory....but you knew that.

I would also add that perhaps you are mistaking my support for men who have been falsely accused of rape with not supporting actual rape victims. Those two issues are entirely different altogether.
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Yep, there are quite a few rape victims here on AD. No, I am not one and I thank my lucky stars that I never have to experience that nightmare but it doesnt mean I have no empathy for those who have.
 
shel90 said:
Yep, there are quite a few rape victims here on AD. No, I am not one and I thank my lucky stars that I never have to experience that nightmare but it doesnt mean I have no empathy for those who have.
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I am certain all of us have empathy for them.....including Steinhauer.
 
Beowulf said:
There is an important distinction: you should be supportive of all rape vitims. If their rape claims were proven fraudulent, then they are not victims. Still, be supportive of all rape victims.
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I believe I have made that distinction.
 
sallylou said:
Steinhauer, I am the rape survivor. I'm not lying. Deal with it. I know that not all men are bad, as I'm married to one.
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I honestly didn't know. Maybe you posted your experiences before, but I cannot recall reading about. I apologize to you if I made any remarks that could have been read that I do not support rape victims.

I know not all women make fraudulent claims. My wife was accused of making a fraudulent claim when she was in fact a rape victim (her ex husband). And yes, he covered it up rather well.

The fact is, there are false allegations out there. Many men have spent time in prison before the allegations were proven false. To me, that is just as bad as rape. They had their lives stolen from them.

Saying that, it does not mean I do not support or empathize with rape victims. I am married to one.
 
TXgolfer said:
I am certain all of us have empathy for them.....including Steinhauer.
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You mean sympathy. You only get empathy if you went through the experience well enough to know what it is like. Just saying, no biggie though.
 
Beowulf said:
You mean sympathy. You only get empathy if you went through the experience well enough to know what it is like. Just saying, no biggie though.
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At the request of the OP I won't argue this with you. Good day.
 
Beowulf said:
You mean sympathy. You only get empathy if you went through the experience well enough to know what it is like. Just saying, no biggie though.
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Huge difference between emapthy and sympathy. I think you called it right. Empathy does not involve "feeling sorry" for another, or feeling pity for their circumstances. That would be sympathy.
 
Buffalo said:
27.5 is the average age for the first kill. Yeah, it takes years for anybody to catch them. BTK is one where he stopped killing for a long time before resuming killing when he was busy raising his family.
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Yeah, I realized it was first kill. That is why you would have to add several years to that for the number of murders they commit after that first kill until they are caught. Yes, BTK did have a period of several years where he was not committing any murders. The Green River Killer also stopped for a period of time.
 
Steinhauer, I'm sorry about your wife. You must know first hand how hard it can be.

This is a thread about child rape and I think addressing it is appropriate here. There is absolutely no issue about the victim possibly lying in this case. She's not here anymore.

It's very sad that in this case, there was also murder. How long will we let children who are not our own suffer?
 
sallylou said:
Steinhauer, I'm sorry about your wife. You must know first hand how hard it can be.

This is a thread about child rape and I think addressing it is appropriate here. There is absolutely no issue about the victim possibly lying in this case. She's not here anymore.

It's very sad that in this case, there was also murder. How long will we let children who are not our own suffer?
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If I become aware of a situation that involves child abuse or neglect, I don't ignore it. I don't believe the majority of people would ignore it either.

You know, I really got to mention this. Over a thousand people showed up to show love and support for the Rivera Family. Complete strangers coming together to let Jorelyn's mother know she was not facing this alone.

Just when you have lost faith in humanity, and innocence has been lost, it is the kindness of strangers that restore a little bit of that lingering faith. I know it isn't enough to heal the wounds inflicted on the Rivera Family by a monster, but it certainly left me awestruck that so many people would drop what they were doing to let this family know that people loved them and supported them.

I am also very proud of the multi task force that went to look for Jorelyn and then her killer. Many of them made donations to the family.
 
Steinhauer said:
Her funeral is this Sunday at First Baptist Church of Canton. It is being funded by private donations from the community. Her family welcomed guests earlier this evening at the Darby Funeral Home.

She will then be flown to Puerto Rico for burial (which, IMHO, the killer should be extradited there for trial).
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The crime did not happen in Puerto Rico. One is tried for a crime where the crime occured.
 
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