5-Year-Old Wants Cochlear Implant for Christmas

[jillio]

But back to Medicaid paying for the implant...still say no. It is an unreasonable use of federal funds. CI, particularly bi-lateral CI, is not medically necessary. To use federal funds to pay for the CI hurts all deaf in the longrun because of the message it gives to society.

 

[TXgolfer]

Nope. You give them too much credit. There is a reason they have minor status in the law.

 

[deafgal001]

I'm just wondering if this kid is having trouble hearing from his first CI to request a second one to "hear more"

 

[posts from hell]

reeling back in this thread... so it appears that FJ stance: If child dont want CI - force usage... If child wants ci - ninja IMPLANT!

Now I am clear.

 

[jillio]

reeling back in this thread... so it appears that FJ stance: If child dont want CI - force usage... If child wants ci - ninja IMPLANT!

Now I am clear.

Sad, isn't it? I keep hoping for the day when a deaf child will be seen as more than ears and a mouth. People get so focused on hearing and speech they forget about the whole child that is behind those things.

You know what really bothers me, too? The hearing parents come on here and tell us all the work they are doing with their implanted kids, all the speech therapy and language therapy, etc. etc. Never once do I see anyone say something like, "I baked Christmas cookies with my kid today." or "My child and I built a snowman today." It is deafness first, child second. That is azz backwards.

 

[Bottesini]

reeling back in this thread... so it appears that FJ stance: If child dont want CI - force usage... If child wants ci - ninja IMPLANT!

Now I am clear.

And yet you complained so much about RD stalking you.

 

[Bottesini]

Sad, isn't it? I keep hoping for the day when a deaf child will be seen as more than ears and a mouth. People get so focused on hearing and speech they forget about the whole child that is behind those things.

You know what really bothers me, too? The hearing parents come on here and tell us all the work they are doing with their implanted kids, all the speech therapy and language therapy, etc. etc. Never once do I see anyone say something like, "I baked Christmas cookies with my kid today." or "My child and I built a snowman today." It is deafness first, child second. That is azz backwards.

It's probably just because they are here. I have a lot of memories of doing things like sledding, with hot chocolate after, playing chess, doing calligraphy.

I am perfectly sure they all do that and more. Here they talk about deafness. On Alldeaf.

Instead of Activities to have fun with your kid forum.

 

[jillio]

It's probably just because they are here. I have a lot of memories of doing things like sledding, with hot chocolate after, playing chess, doing calligraphy.

I am perfectly sure they all do that and more. Here they talk about deafness. On Alldeaf.

Instead of Activities to have fun with your kid forum.

Deaf members talk about what they do with their kids, and relate stories from family activities. My point was that the deafness appears to come first with hearing parents. The research on parent child relationships show that hearing parents of deaf kids in oral environments have more directive relationships with their kids and engage in less spontaneous play and interaction. I'm kind of seeing that here, as well. I don't doubt that they do activities with their kids. But how often is that just a child and parent interacting and enjoying each other without some form of language therapy or speech exercise slipping in? Even the AVT therapists instruct parents how to turn every situation in a language learning activity. And the fact is, the best way for the kid to learn language is through natural use and exposure, not directed activity.

With your mastery of English, I have no doubt that you had time when you were just a kid, and not a deaf kid with your parents.

 

[Bottesini]

Deaf members talk about what they do with their kids, and relate stories from family activities. My point was that the deafness appears to come first with hearing parents. The research on parent child relationships show that hearing parents of deaf kids in oral environments have more directive relationships with their kids and engage in less spontaneous play and interaction. I'm kind of seeing that here, as well.

Ok. I am just saying my parents were very playful.

I must be that minority that goes against the rule.

 

[Bottesini]

Deaf members talk about what they do with their kids, and relate stories from family activities. My point was that the deafness appears to come first with hearing parents. The research on parent child relationships show that hearing parents of deaf kids in oral environments have more directive relationships with their kids and engage in less spontaneous play and interaction. I'm kind of seeing that here, as well. I don't doubt that they do activities with their kids. But how often is that just a child and parent interacting and enjoying each other without some form of language therapy or speech exercise slipping in? Even the AVT therapists instruct parents how to turn every situation in a language learning activity. And the fact is, the best way for the kid to learn language is through natural use and exposure, not directed activity.

With your mastery of English, I have no doubt that you had time when you were just a kid, and not a deaf kid with your parents.

Calligraphy built English skills. Scrabble. etc. I know quite a few of deaf people my age who have the same quality of English skills as I do and still have a fun childhood.

 

[jillio]

Ok. I am just saying my parents were very playful.

I must be that minority that goes against the rule.

Maybe they just didn't have the plethora of experts telling them to turn everything into a language learning activity that the implanted kid's parents have.

You were very lucky that your parents were so playful. They allowed you to develop language the natural way. As well as other things.

 

[taylorjade.]

Sad, isn't it? I keep hoping for the day when a deaf child will be seen as more than ears and a mouth. People get so focused on hearing and speech they forget about the whole child that is behind those things.

You know what really bothers me, too? The hearing parents come on here and tell us all the work they are doing with their implanted kids, all the speech therapy and language therapy, etc. etc. Never once do I see anyone say something like, "I baked Christmas cookies with my kid today." or "My child and I built a snowman today." It is deafness first, child second. That is azz backwards.

i do lots of other things with my son other than all the hard work we put in regarding his deafness, but we're on a deaf forum, not a baking or snowman building forum?
and most of the responses that include statements about hard work are relevant to the OP so it wouldn't make sense to just chime in with "hey we built a puzzle today"
you're assuming that all we care about is "fixing" our children when i'm not sure how you would know what our priorities are.

ETA: the responses *i've seen*. i'm a pretty new member so maybe i am mistaken.

 

[faire_jour]

Only because his parents have told him so.

Or because they have experienced hearing and know what it is like.

 

[faire_jour]

Let's see...personally know of about 35 people with one CI, 3 people with 1 breast, and 1 person with one testicle. Search the medical archives, and hundreds more can be found.

You seriously only know 35 people with a CI....wow, that's not very many.

 

[faire_jour]

Sad, isn't it? I keep hoping for the day when a deaf child will be seen as more than ears and a mouth. People get so focused on hearing and speech they forget about the whole child that is behind those things.

You know what really bothers me, too? The hearing parents come on here and tell us all the work they are doing with their implanted kids, all the speech therapy and language therapy, etc. etc. Never once do I see anyone say something like, "I baked Christmas cookies with my kid today." or "My child and I built a snowman today." It is deafness first, child second. That is azz backwards.

Ok, my daughter and I made gingerbread houses yesterday and today we are going to the aquarium. Then we'll go Christmas shopping without Daddy so we can pick his present. In the evening we are going to her favorite restaurant because she wants to see the divers. Tomorrow we will spend three ours at church and then in the afternnon we will walk to Grandma's house and spend the evening with her cousins.

Feel better? I didn't realize that you cared about the dance class she is in or the playdates she has either. Want to hear about those too? :roll:

 

[deafgal001]

You seriously only know 35 people with a CI....wow, that's not very many.

She means 35 people with one CI, not two CIs.

 

[faire_jour]

She means 35 people with one CI, not two CIs.

Still, that is a very small number. Most people only have one implant, bilaterals are fairly uncommon.

 

[Beowulf]

Still, that is a very small number. Most people only have one implant, bilaterals are fairly uncommon.

And? Cochlear implants are not commonplace the way you make them out to be.

 

[faire_jour]

And? Cochlear implants are not commonplace the way you make them out to be.

Not at all. I was simply surprised that she knew so few people with implants.

 

[deafgal001]

I never met anyone with a CI but plenty of deaf with hearing aids. I only seen only two with CI. (there's a girl with CI to goes to the library everyday as I was taking my son to library to do his homework everyday. but she didn't seem like a cheerful little girl though. She seem irritated all the time. I don't talk to her).


Heck, finding deaf is rare. 35 people seem alot if she met them only where she live.

How many ADers have CI?