2 Year Old Cooper Hear's Mommy's Voice First Time

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LoveBlue said:
Be clear be clear be clear
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This is related to abortion... How? Straw man? Non sequitur fallacy?
 
Cloggy said:
It is very obvious that deaf parents put more value in deafness because of their biased deaf perspective and zero hearing perspective.
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It is very obvious that hearing parents put more value in hearing because of their biased hearing perspective and zero deafness perspective.
 
Cloggy said:
It is very obvious that deaf parents put more value in deafness because of their biased deaf perspective and zero hearing perspective.
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You'll have to keep in mind that majority of ADers are in America. We have more deaf resources and deaf communities than you have from where you're living at.

Since we have everything that would be very beneficial for deaf children, many parents are not giving it any serious consideration. It's more like the back-up of their back-up plan.

That's what concerns us quite deeply.
 
Jiro said:
1. You say tomato. I say tomahto

2. She is free to believe whatever she wants as long as she keeps it to herself but if she'a going to say something publicly in here, she should expect some replies not what she's looking for... like criticisms. And she should be more receptive than suggestive such as lecturing to us about SEE language.

I'm not quite sure what's your role in here. Spin doctor?
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Are you like the mafia now? People can talk about methods you approve of? How about we let people talk about their methods of dealing with deafness without criticizing them.....a little tolerance and acceptance. Maybe make a little deal....she won't criticize your method and you don't criticize hers. That sounds like a fair compromise. I have said this several times but it bears repeating. This is Alldeaf....it's supposed to be for everyone. Criticizing each other for how they deal with deafness in no way benefits the site or the people who come for information. This might be different if it were in the debate threads. But this is occurring in threads specifically set up for HAs and CIs so bashing each other for their choices is just wrong IMO
 
saywhatkid said:
So how does the 2 year old intend to pay for the implant he wanted? Did Santa bring it after seeing it on the Christmas list, next to Legos and Hot Wheels?

Maybe the 2 year old had no say; Mom and Dad voted for him.
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Of course he didn't......and hopefully the parents did their homework before making that decision
 
CSign said:
Absolutely. If parents are going into it "blindly" then that is objectionable. If parents are thoroughly researching the pros and cons, and making an informed choice then that is all one could ask for.
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I believe that has been the general consensus among the many of us hoping that parents make an informed choice and not a blind one.
 
TXgolfer said:
Are you like the mafia now? People can talk about methods you approve of? How about we let people talk about their methods of dealing with deafness without criticizing them.....a little tolerance and acceptance. Maybe make a little deal....she won't criticize your method and you don't criticize hers. That sounds like a fair compromise. I have said this several times but it bears repeating. This is Alldeaf....it's supposed to be for everyone. Criticizing each other for how they deal with deafness in no way benefits the site or the people who come for information. This might be different if it were in the debate threads. But this is occurring in threads specifically set up for HAs and CIs so bashing each other for their choices is just wrong IMO
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Sounds like a clash of cultural differences. Perhaps this might help you understand why you view it as is - http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our-culture/101727-cultural-difference-hearing-deaf.html
 
TXgolfer said:
Umm, an informed choice can go either way. *shrug* And either decision is fine with me.

I also totally support people expressing their opinions. Bullying is another story. Sarcastic replies and negativity toward the way another deals with their deafness is unnecessary IMO.
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Exactly. As long as parents make an informed choice I'm fine with it. In fact, I support their decision. Not many people can say that when it comes down to it.
 
Parents making a CI decision for the child, whether informed or not, does not translate to saying the child agreed with the parent's decision. This is pretty simple stuff to understand.

This isn't just some simple matter after the parents get to decide and after that everything is whoopie-doo-great with the baby. After all it's something that can affect him or her for the rest of their lives.

Even an implantee here just shared her opinion and she's relatively firm with it. Does she have no credibility? She wanted to her own choice and would do same if she had deaf child and let them pick. Her parents were one of the few who did respect her decisions and waited.
 
Jiro said:
1. You say tomato. I say tomahto

2. She is free to believe whatever she wants as long as she keeps it to herself but if she'a going to say something publicly in here, she should expect some replies not what she's looking for... like criticisms. And she should be more receptive than suggestive such as lecturing to us about SEE language.

I'm not quite sure what's your role in here. Spin doctor?
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You seem to be the only spin doctor around here right now. You know full well what I meant in that thread. Beyond that, I went on to further clarify that it was another mode of the English language. If you go back and read, you will note that I never said anything negative about ASL, and that I value both equally. . I think it's time you stop spinning my posts and threads to suit your needs, and be receptive to what I've said all along.
 
Jiro said:
Sounds like a clash of cultural differences. Perhaps this might help you understand why you view it as is - http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our-culture/101727-cultural-difference-hearing-deaf.html
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Nah, it sounds like someone not respecting other members rights to choose their own course and tell their story. That's why I suggested she just ignore in the first place. Haters gonna hate. I hope Cloogy and Csign will continue to be rave enough to share their stories in the face of this bullying and harassment and I hope in doing so others will be encouraged to share their stories. This site is supposed to be for everybody and it's a shame some feel the need to tear others down.
 
TXgolfer said:
Nah, it sounds like someone not respecting other members rights to choose their own course and tell their story. That's why I suggested she just ignore in the first place. Haters gonna hate. I hope Cloogy and Csign will continue to be rave enough to share their stories in the face of this bullying and harassment and I hope in doing so others will be encouraged to share their stories. This site is supposed to be for everybody and it's a shame some feel the need to tear others down.
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Might be time to let the staff run the site. :wave:

Disagreeing and tearing down are not the same thing. You seem bitter because a member that has trolled several people here over the course of months was given a vacation. It works both ways. There are examples, but I don't have the desire to research it. I have no regrets regarding my own comments to that member. You reap what you sow...
 
naisho said:
Parents making a CI decision for the child, whether informed or not, does not translate to saying the child agreed with the parent's decision. This is pretty simple stuff to understand.

This isn't just some simple matter after the parents get to decide and after that everything is whoopie-doo-great with the baby. After all it's something that can affect him or her for the rest of their lives.

Even an implantee here just shared her opinion and she's relatively firm with it. Does she have no credibility? She wanted to her own choice and would do same if she had deaf child and let them pick. Her parents were one of the few who did respect her decisions and waited.
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Parents still have to make decisions every day for their child whether the child agrees with it or not. As for CI, parents may have to consider the fact regarding crucial auditory development early in a child's life compared to later and consider the ramifications between the two.
 
naisho said:
Parents making a CI decision for the child, whether informed or not, does not translate to saying the child agreed with the parent's decision. This is pretty simple stuff to understand.
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You are absolutely correct.... But should people be judging those parents and putting them down? Especially in the HA/CI area of AD? If so I guess AD stands for something other than I was lead to believe.

I don't haves problem with people posting their negative CI experiences. In fact I think there is informative value in that. But as I said in the other thread it seems that should be stated in general rather than attacking another poster. Just my 2 cents.
 
TXgolfer said:
Nah, it sounds like someone not respecting other members rights to choose their own course and tell their story. That's why I suggested she just ignore in the first place. Haters gonna hate. I hope Cloogy and Csign will continue to be rave enough to share their stories in the face of this bullying and harassment and I hope in doing so others will be encouraged to share their stories. This site is supposed to be for everybody and it's a shame some feel the need to tear others down.
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Everybody? I thought it was for the deaf.
 
saywhatkid said:
Might be time to let the staff run the site. :wave:

Disagreeing and tearing down are not the same thing. You seem bitter because a member that has trolled several people here over the course of months was given a vacation. It works both ways. There are examples, but I don't have the desire to research it. I have no regrets regarding my own comments to that member. You reap what you sow...
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Sorry if it seems that way it that is not the case. What happened here is a member posted a video and it was immediately met with sarcasm. The whole whoop dee do comment. IMO that is uncalled for. Again this was in a HA/CI thread.....not a currents nets or debate thread.
 
Jiro said:
he looks so confused
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Yeah , he does looks very confused. It is going to take awhile for the baby to understand what is going on. I was almost 8 yo when I got my first HA and I was shocked at how loud a paper bag was. But I was older enough to know what was going on.
 
Bottesini said:
Everybody? I thought it was for the deaf.
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Well I think you know what I meant..... But to be clear As the intro says Deaf, HOH and anyone with an interest in deafness.....or something close to that.
 
Bottesini said:
Everybody? I thought it was for the deaf.
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Yes, you are correct. I forgot to add it to my statement earlier today. This site is primarily a Deaf/deaf/oral/hoh audience.

The hearing are welcome to join in on the site, but asserting superiority over the opinion of deafies can be seen as a trolling matter and they will be penalized accordingly to how they violated the rules.
 
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