"You mind writing that down"?

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I hate to ask a deaf person this. But I guess it's better to rather than shaking my head, pretending I know what they signed to me. I'm sure it's pretty frustrating:pissed: to slow down to a crawl, as if you're speaking to a baby (i'm a total beginner here). Tonight, I bought myself a mini notepad to take along with me just for this purpose.

Just thinking out loud here.
 
I'm deaf, and it doesn't bother me at all. Actually, when someone is learning sign and she/he is having difficulty saying something, it really ANNOYS me when that person REFUSES to write it down or let me write it down when either I can't understand her/him or she/he can't understand me. Seriously, either write it down or let me write it down and then I will be more than happy to show you the sign for it or whatever. I think people would learn much better that way. I can't help you if you refuse to let me help you.
 
Touchy situation!

Hmm, I think your question is an excellent one and a question that should have been brought up before -- everywhere!

I can only speak for myself. I have good speech and have kept working on it, (after having gone deaf at age 10 from measles.) I usually SPEAK when I am out and about and only occasionally do I meet any resistance -- when the other person comes to a standstill when they hear my deaf voice. I often tell people who react like this that if they cannot understand me, I would be happy to repeat! In my case I usually become offended if someone pushes a pad and pencil towards me, without even TRYING to communicate. If they are doing to work with the public they have to accept working with all kinds!

Of course this is a different kettle of fish from when a deaf person is trying to communicate with a hearing person via sign language. In this case I see nothing wrong with using a pad and pencil. It is common knowledge that a hearing "learner" is not going to "receive" for a long, long time -- so obviously there has to be some common facilitator -- a pad and pencil!

If I were you and if I really cared, I would feel my way. If one or both of you become offended, then obviously something is wrong and needs to be fixed.

:ty:
 
Lantana said:
Of course this is a different kettle of fish from when a deaf person is trying to communicate with a hearing person via sign language. In this case I see nothing wrong with using a pad and pencil. It is common knowledge that a hearing "learner" is not going to "receive" for a long, long time -- so obviously there has to be some common facilitator --a pad and pencil!
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Thanks for that. I've learned alot of signs over the past couple of months and to a certain extent, I pride myself on that. But as soon as a deaf person signs to me, I'm like: "what? huh? didn't understand that".:stupid: My recieving really, really sucks right now. It's frustrating but I don't know when I'll get past it. I just want to have a normal conversation in sign language without pulling out a pencil or my ASL dictionary.
 
society's_child said:
Thanks for that. I've learned alot of signs over the past couple of months and to a certain extent, I pride myself on that. But as soon as a deaf person signs to me, I'm like: "what? huh? didn't understand that".:stupid: My recieving really, really sucks right now. It's frustrating but I don't know when I'll get past it. I just want to have a normal conversation in sign language without pulling out a pencil or my ASL dictionary.
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Keep practicing. You will get there, trust me.
 
Hey Lucia, I just noticed that your sig says that you will have CI surgery in October. I'm curious: what's the extent of your hearing loss? born deaf or later deaf?
 
society's_child said:
Hey Lucia, I just noticed that your sig says that you will have CI surgery in October. I'm curious: what's the extent of your hearing loss? born deaf or later deaf?
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I was born hearing but lost my hearing at around 1-2 years of age due to too many ear infections. I wore hearing aids on and off til I was 10 years old and couldn't get any more benefit from them anymore, so I quit wearing them. My audiologist at the time told my dad that I could be a good candidate for a CI (this was in 1990 or 1991) but my dad never pursued it...for stupid reasons. So, for the longest time I thought I couldn't get one, I thought medicaid and medicare would NEVER cover it, no way in hell. Well, I was wrong. I did some research a few months ago and the research has really opened my eyes, I learned so much, and it has given me the push to go ahead and go for it. :)
 
tha s true i never really bothered to use lip read or whatever i always use paper and pencial if they didnt like it i ll stuff it up their asses
 
society's_child said:
I hate to ask a deaf person this. But I guess it's better to rather than shaking my head, pretending I know what they signed to me. I'm sure it's pretty frustrating:pissed: to slow down to a crawl, as if you're speaking to a baby (i'm a total beginner here). Tonight, I bought myself a mini notepad to take along with me just for this purpose.

Just thinking out loud here.
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The more you associate with a variety of deaf people, the better your receptive skills will be. I found this out. I could sign quite well from a book but never really got to interact with the deaf all that much. Now I do, plus I am learning asl vs english now(that's what I meant learning sign from a book. it was english). But now learning asl, my receptive skills are alot better cause one can't learn asl from a book, only from the deaf.Although dvd's are good too. Robbielyn
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
I was born hearing but lost my hearing at around 1-2 years of age due to too many ear infections. I wore hearing aids on and off til I was 10 years old and couldn't get any more benefit from them anymore, so I quit wearing them. My audiologist at the time told my dad that I could be a good candidate for a CI (this was in 1990 or 1991) but my dad never pursued it...for stupid reasons. So, for the longest time I thought I couldn't get one, I thought medicaid and medicare would NEVER cover it, no way in hell. Well, I was wrong. I did some research a few months ago and the research has really opened my eyes, I learned so much, and it has given me the push to go ahead and go for it. :)
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Just for my own curiosity, Lucia and you don't hafta answer if'n you don't wanna. I think I remember that you don't get along with your Dad. So I was just wondering how/what he now thinks of you going for a CI?
 
society's_child,

Thanks for bringing up this topic. The DCC that I will be attending tomorrow morning will be my first with Deaf folks that I've never met before. In other cases, I've known them as friends or online chat room aquaintences. This will be like a "cold call" and I'm actually a little nervous.

I'm HoH, wear hearing aids but only understand maybe 10% of the spoken words so I may or may not be able to piece together the spoken sentence. I'm just starting to learn ASL and I'm no good at speachreading. I can sign maybe a total of four thoughts/questions; one being "sign slow please" which I am very good at. LOL

Thanks again for mentioning this topic!

Dave
 
Tousi said:
Just for my own curiosity, Lucia and you don't hafta answer if'n you don't wanna. I think I remember that you don't get along with your Dad. So I was just wondering how/what he now thinks of you going for a CI?
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I haven't told him. I really don't like talking to him at all. I do not know if I want to tell him or not. If I do, I won't tell him til all is said and done. I don't tell him about a LOT of major things that's going on in my life. I don't need his support, anyway.
 
For me, I remember when I first went to Gallaudet and noticed signs I had never seen before, I usually asked the person signing what the sign meant. They were a bit shocked because I was good at sign language.. Until they found out I grew up in mainstream school and don't know the asl signs as well as I could have.

writing it down works, or having the deaf person fingerspell the word. That helped me learn a lot.
 
Wheelin Rev said:
society's_child,

Thanks for bringing up this topic. The DCC that I will be attending tomorrow morning will be my first with Deaf folks that I've never met before. In other cases, I've known them as friends or online chat room aquaintences. This will be like a "cold call" and I'm actually a little nervous.

I'm HoH, wear hearing aids but only understand maybe 10% of the spoken words so I may or may not be able to piece together the spoken sentence. I'm just starting to learn ASL and I'm no good at speachreading. I can sign maybe a total of four thoughts/questions; one being "sign slow please" which I am very good at. LOL

Thanks again for mentioning this topic!

Dave
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Sure thing. Enjoy yourself tommorow. :)

Thanks for the replies, everyone.
 
society's_child said:
Sure thing. Enjoy yourself tommorow.
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Can I get an "oh duh" here? Tomorrow is today and I got the weekends mixed up. :dunno2: I feel sooooo stupid...

I'm off to see the Wizard to see if there is another set of brains laying around.

<crawls back in to his small hiding place totally embarrished>
 
Sure is a cool idea to bring pad 'n pen. I do in my purse. Once, I encountered this young clerk without that at a bakery when I kept gesturing clearly for a paper 'n pen. Most hearing people have understood me at other places of business from my experience. The more she didn't get it, the more frustrated both we got. It never entered her mind that she would still have to communicate with a deaf customer... and I never thought anyone would be so dense especially in places of business, no offense.
 
The only time I actually have a problem is when the clerk actually see's me SIGNING to someone. When I walk up then and start to speak, they get this strange, frightened (deer in the headlights) look on their faces.

Most of us have writing material in our handbags, for check writing, etc. But I tell people that I am happy to repeat, just ask.

:pissed:
 
I normally have something to write on, or if i do not. I type it into my cell phone. I'm hard of hearing, and communicate on a daily basis, and I still write things down.
 
I agree. When communication becomes a problem, try something else... don't keep trying what's obviously not working.

I know a few NTID students who are like that. They're either oral or strong ASL and others can't understand them. For instance, there's one NTID student (a girl) who considers herself hearing. She uses the phone like a hearing person all the time and doesn't know signs. Sometimes, people don't understand her when she talks. So, they will give her a paper and pen... but she pushes it away and still tries to talk. When it doesn't work out, she walks away. :roll:
 
VamPyroX said:
I agree. When communication becomes a problem, try something else... don't keep trying what's obviously not working.

I know a few NTID students who are like that. They're either oral or strong ASL and others can't understand them. For instance, there's one NTID student (a girl) who considers herself hearing. She uses the phone like a hearing person all the time and doesn't know signs. Sometimes, people don't understand her when she talks. So, they will give her a paper and pen... but she pushes it away and still tries to talk. When it doesn't work out, she walks away. :roll:
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NTID?? What's that?
 
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