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HearingSwede

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Wow, where do I start!? I've already posted in other threads twice, but felt that a formal introduction might be in order. I'm a 29-year-old hearing Swedish girl (I'm a brunette though, and I don't have big breasts...) who's been interested in signed languages and Deaf culture for at least fourteen or fifteen years.

The fact that I'm hearing has always prevented me from participating at forums like this one, out of respect. This might be a typically Swedish thing too, as we are sometimes overly worried about doing anything that might be considered offensive. Americans are often more happy-go-lucky, which is a trait I kind of like, so I decided to just go for it and see if I might be able to make some new friends.

My first "deaf/sign language experience" came when I was around five and the news in Swedish Sign Language (I'll stick to the official abbreviation of TSP from now on...) was on TV. I was just blown away and thought it was about the coolest thing I'd ever seen. I asked my mom what the man on TV was doing and she joked with me, saying that he had "dropped his voice" (actually a Swedish euphemism for when someone temporarily loses their voice due to a cold or laryngitis). My mom kind of liked to joke around with me, even told me that eating too many eggs would turn me into a chicken. Anyway, the image stuck with me and the interest kept brewing in the back of my mind for many years. When I was in my mid-teens I started reading a lot of books about linguistics. One of them, The Encyclopedia of Language, by David Crystal, had a really interesting spread about the visual grammar of signed languages, with a special focus on ASL. I was hooked for the second time, and this time my interest didn't fall to the back of my head. I started looking up different ASL resources and reading about Deaf culture. While I was a foreign exchange student at the University of Rochester in 2000/2001, I finally went ahead and took ASL 101 and 102. If it weren't for the fact that I had to go back home, I would have kept on going.

My decision to try to learn ASL was always based in part on the idea that I might someday move to the U.S., which I did in the spring of 2004. I was so overcome with homesickness, however, that I ended up going back to Sweden after about a year, and that is a decision I have never regretted. Nor have I regretted taking ASL, despite the fact that I live in Sweden now. First of all, it is the most thoroughly researched sign language in the world, and I enjoy reading books and scientific articles about ASL linguistics (I may, in fact be the only hearing Swede to have actually read Ben Bahan's doctoral thesis from start to finish :)). I am quite the ASL geek! Secondly, I still consider the U.S., particularly Seattle, to be a second home and I go overseas at least once a year, and just might bump into a Deaf American on my next visit. Who knows!?

Well, this message is getting a little long-winded so I'll hurry up and get to the end. Anyway, back home in Sweden, I've started taking TSP (Swedish Sign Language, actually an abbreviation of teckenspråk which literally means "sign language"). I am in my third semester right now. The course I'm taking is offered at the Stockholm Deaf Club and classes meet once a week. The pace is really slow compared to the college level classes I took at the University of Rochester, so my ASL skills are probably still five times better than my TSP skills, but I'm getting there. I'm even thinking about getting a tutor for the summer to speed things up. I'd love to maintain and improve on my ASL skills as well so when time permits I might just come back looking for an ASL video pal or something (God, I love the Internet! :D).

I'll see you around!
 
Välkommen in Alldeaf!
I love languages too, and I visited your country last year, in Göteborg and Stockholm. I had a great time even though I was alone in your country and did not meet any deaf people. I was visiting Sweden whilst spending three weeks in Norway last summer, and I tried to learn some Norwegian. I still remember some Norwegian, but don't think I remember much Swedish besides Tack! There is an American here, who married a Norwegian guy, who is a member here too. Maybe she will say "hej!"

Jeg häper du skal ha det bra her. Heja!
Marc
 
Thanks!

Well, thanks guys!

And, to Kuifje75 (Marc): That is so cool that you've been to Sweden! Norway is nice too (although it's rare for a Swede to actually admit that). Since the languages are so similar, I can usually understand Norwegian fairly well, especially since I hung out with a Norwegian girl all year when I was a high school foreign exchange student in the States.

Anyway, I think I may have spotted a few of your vlogs on youtube (I go looking for ASL vlogs online every now then so that I won't forget everything...). Nice!

So, Hej då (as we say in Sweden) or Ha det (as they say in Norway)!

/Christine :wave:
 
Hello and welcome to Alldeaf! Interesting introduction and nice to see how much you're enjoying learning ASL, best wishes and hopefully the next time you come to the states, you won't be as homesick either...anyhow, do enjoy your stay here in AD! ;)

Have a great day! :wave:






~RR
 
Hey! Welcome to the forum. I'm not around often these days, seeing that I'm caught up in my own research. We have some pretty sharp folks here, and I'm sure you have a whole world of information to share! Welcome!

Quick question. Is the TSP alphabet bimanual?
 
Hey! Welcome to the forum. I'm not around often these days, seeing that I'm caught up in my own research. We have some pretty sharp folks here, and I'm sure you have a whole world of information to share! Welcome!

Quick question. Is the TSP alphabet bimanual?

No it isn't, thank God! I never have a problem separating ASL and TSP when fingerspelling, but reading it gives me such a headache since TSP 'G' is the same as ASL 'S', 'S' corresponds to ASL 'C', 'H' to 'F', and 'D' to 'B'. It gets really confusing!
 
Swedish alphabet

For Endymion (and whoever else is interested): Here's a link I just found to a Youtube video featuring the Swedish TSP alphabet. Enjoy!

And thanks again everyone for being so nice! You're awesome! :D
 
Yes, I have some vlogs, which I have not updated for so long. Sometimes it gets so busy for me, the time flies and I'm like gosh!

I probably will return to Sweden at some time in the future, primarily to visit the rest of the country, along with Finland and Denmark. I just wish that Sweden and Norway isn't so expensive! Hi hi hi When, I don't know, but it is part of my plans for some indeterminable future.

Do you have any vlogs yourself?

Vi snakkes!
 
Hello,

Welcome to AD and enjoy your stay here :)
 
Welcome! I will be looking forward to your input on many of the topics we discuss here. I love a new perspective!
 
:welcome: to Alldeaf! Have fun browsing and posting! :)
 
G'day and Hej!
Welcome to AD. I think you're a cool person for learning ASL and now TSP! I visited Stockholm 2 years ago and thought it was a beautiful city! I'm hoping to visit Sweden again this Summer. Maybe we should meet over cuppa and natter away in ASL as I'm fluent in it as well. :)

It was funny that I could understand Svenska a bit better than Norsk. I don't know why, though.

Hej da.
 
Hej hej neighbor :P

Kuifje and Miss D have visited me in Norway, and I know, the place is damned expensive. Would you believe, that a deaf norwegian friend from Oslo spoke highly about Swedish tegnspråket after a visit? It seems like Svensk t.s. is more similar to ASL than norsk t.s. is, b/c many people here have made it necessary to incorporate speech into it, that no one can understand you if you don't mouth all the words. :ugh3:

That is cool you know ASL and now is learning svensk t.s.! I know the sign for "R".. LOL. Do you have resources online for learning swedish t.s. you could share with us? I'd like to pick up something to trade those norwegian/swedish jokes. LOL.. Have you been socializing with the sign languages? I'm not sure if you mentioned that already.

Hadet bra!
 
Ha ha! The sign for 'R'... Well if you don't turn it upside down you're fine! :D

For those who don't know, the letter R is the universally known gesture for "f***k you", except that it's turned over so the middle finger points down instead of up. I think I posted a link to a fingerspelling video higher up in this thread somewhere... Needless to say, there are very few signs that actually use that handshape. There may have been more in the past, I don't know.

There is actually a pretty good website for "teckenspråk" you could check out. It's on the website of the sign language department at the University of Stockholm. All instructions are in Swedish though. Then again, if you know Norwegian you're probably fine.

Needless to say, anyone is free to drop in on me in if they are ever in Sweden. I would not say that I'm fluent in ASL, though. I don't completely suck and I can carry on a conversation above the level of "my cat is pretty!", but I still have a long way to go. I might post an introduction video somewhere if everyone promises that they won't laugh. Then again, I would have no way of knowing... Darn it! ;)
 
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