Windows and Microsoft SUCKS! So, here's what I did about it...

It is a interesting sharing.........
 
Windows just all shitload of viruses, malwares and bad codings.. that's why I hate the winblows, I use both computers that using linux (retired soon on the old sony lappy going dies) and mac lappy.
 
"I can't afford Mac computers" is a lame excuse. A new Mac mini is only $699 starting and you can get a decent used Mac Mini for less than $500 and run Lion on it. Save up your money and don't spend on unnecessary stuff. :)
 
cdaigle430 said:
$300 ? Where are you shopping? Besides, normal users do not need the ultimate version-there is nothing more to gain from the home version whihc is under $99.

This is why I laugh at those who hate windows and got linux-oh its so much better than windows. Then they always go into a complex installation process. Most users dont give a rats behind and don't want to know about ISO's and partitions and installing from a USB stick.

I work with them all, from MAC to Server 2008 Geo-Clusters and by far, manhours wise Linux and Unix are the biggest waste of man hours. I have one Systems Admin easily supporting 300 Windows servers running 1,000 applications and for some reason I need 1 Linux\Unix systems admin for every 75servers and he\she are taxed out.

Same goes for our PC LAN devision that supports 75,000 Windows desktops.
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Microsft's MSRP for full install. Google it. That's why too many people avoid to buy Windows 7 from M$ website and they download crack, copy, looking for good deal, ask friend who student at college for discount, etc..



Some people need Windows 7U for muilt-language and Windows XP Mode for business.

Apple's MSRP is only $30 and everyone one can afford it.
 
sequoias said:
"I can't afford Mac computers" is a lame excuse. A new Mac mini is only $699 starting and you can get a decent used Mac Mini for less than $500 and run Lion on it. Save up your money and don't spend on unnecessary stuff. :)
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Worse, I sicked of people said Apple is OVERPRICE than PC. ugh.
 
The Highlander said:
Worse, I sicked of people said Apple is OVERPRICE than PC. ugh.
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Yeah, me too. Apple is like Ferrari of computers and they have a reason behind that. PC is like Ford of computers, basically.

The sentence "Apple is overpriced more than the PC" is so old that people still obsessed about the past. This was true in the 1980's and 1990's but not so much today, except for the Mac Pro is kind of overpriced.
 
Sheesh - I'm sorry but I gotta interject.

Windows does NOT suck.

If the user has been smart enough and paid more attention as to what needs updates and such, and at the same time, steer clear of malware ... then he/she would have been a happy camper. I have learned a lot over the years.

If the user has been doing research PRIOR to buying a computer like what brand is the best, etc, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user has been doing updates (even service packs) on a particular Windows OS like XP, Vista, and 7, then the risk would be greatly decreased. That wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user did research on what specific hardware that the computer has, like video card, sound card, RAM, chipset, etc and then did software driver updates for each one of those, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user steers clear of malware, has a firewall turned on, has an antivirus software and then update the definition files, and be very aware of phishing sites and such, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

Lesson learned here, folks: it all boils down to the user. No wonder why the support helpdesk is laughing at irresponsible idiots and whiners like you.

It's not the 1980s and 1990s anymore. Use your brain.

P.S. Good luck on finding drivers and apps for Linux, because oh trust me, you are gonna be tearing your hair out. Oh yeah, and suppose that Linux is the standard OS and not Windows... believe me, virus writers would still do their jobs for Linux. And, Linux is absolutely NO exception when it comes to updates. I know this because I used to have Linux Mint installed on VirtualBox when circumventing my alma mater's wireless network login - updates, updates, updates ad infinitum and ad nauseam.
 
To be fair, windows is not as bad as it used to be Vista, Win7 and XP have stabilized and the updates do fix problems. Most people don't want to take the updates and then bitch about why it doesn't work.

I do think Linux is a good operating system, but I would by no means even suggest that it or any operating system is perfect. Honestly, there is no Holy Grail for an OS. Every OS has it's problems and it just depends on whether those problems affect you or not.

Cost has a lot to do with it, you wouldn't put an OS that cost money on machines you are going to give away, doesn't make sense.

So, while I think Linux based OS's are good you have to look at what you want to get out of it and how you are going to use it.

I'm not advocating a windows OS, but if your computer isn't broken, don't fix it.
 
MDCodeRedFreak said:
Sheesh - I'm sorry but I gotta interject.

Windows does NOT suck.

If the user has been smart enough and paid more attention as to what needs updates and such, and at the same time, steer clear of malware ... then he/she would have been a happy camper. I have learned a lot over the years.

If the user has been doing research PRIOR to buying a computer like what brand is the best, etc, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user has been doing updates (even service packs) on a particular Windows OS like XP, Vista, and 7, then the risk would be greatly decreased. That wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user did research on what specific hardware that the computer has, like video card, sound card, RAM, chipset, etc and then did software driver updates for each one of those, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user steers clear of malware, has a firewall turned on, has an antivirus software and then update the definition files, and be very aware of phishing sites and such, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

Lesson learned here, folks: it all boils down to the user. No wonder why the support helpdesk is laughing at irresponsible idiots and whiners like you.

It's not the 1980s and 1990s anymore. Use your brain.

P.S. Good luck on finding drivers and apps for Linux, because oh trust me, you are gonna be tearing your hair out. Oh yeah, and suppose that Linux is the standard OS and not Windows... believe me, virus writers would still do their jobs for Linux. And, Linux is absolutely NO exception when it comes to updates. I know this because I used to have Linux Mint installed on VirtualBox when circumventing my alma mater's wireless network login - updates, updates, updates ad infinitum and ad nauseam.
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I have no problem with Ubuntu for find a driver and an app. You should try on Ubuntu, Not Mint.

Keep the mind, Linux have over 500 distributions.

Funny thing, Microsoft lifecam made from M$ but Windows Vista and Windows 7 can't find a driver for microsoft Lifecam even Auto updated can't find. So you have go to http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/webcams to manual download a driver.
 
MDCodeRedFreak said:
Sheesh - I'm sorry but I gotta interject.

Windows does NOT suck.

If the user has been smart enough and paid more attention as to what needs updates and such, and at the same time, steer clear of malware ... then he/she would have been a happy camper. I have learned a lot over the years.

If the user has been doing research PRIOR to buying a computer like what brand is the best, etc, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user has been doing updates (even service packs) on a particular Windows OS like XP, Vista, and 7, then the risk would be greatly decreased. That wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user did research on what specific hardware that the computer has, like video card, sound card, RAM, chipset, etc and then did software driver updates for each one of those, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

If the user steers clear of malware, has a firewall turned on, has an antivirus software and then update the definition files, and be very aware of phishing sites and such, then that wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

Lesson learned here, folks: it all boils down to the user. No wonder why the support helpdesk is laughing at irresponsible idiots and whiners like you.

It's not the 1980s and 1990s anymore. Use your brain.

P.S. Good luck on finding drivers and apps for Linux, because oh trust me, you are gonna be tearing your hair out. Oh yeah, and suppose that Linux is the standard OS and not Windows... believe me, virus writers would still do their jobs for Linux. And, Linux is absolutely NO exception when it comes to updates. I know this because I used to have Linux Mint installed on VirtualBox when circumventing my alma mater's wireless network login - updates, updates, updates ad infinitum and ad nauseam.
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Updated regularly, nearly freakin' daily...shitloads of updates that was bogging down my computer. Had primo antivirus and firewall programs...NOT free ones either. This user DID update EVERYTHING on a daily basis...unlike some people I never went to phishing sites, porn sites, crack or warez sites, etc. For my me and my hubby's money Dells were the best buy...they have always proven to be reliable machines...and they are easy to work on for upgrading or whatever. We research everything. Someone needs to know about something and someone before they start calling people idiots and whiners.

P.S. I have had NO trouble finding drivers and apps for the version of Linux I have...unlike some "idiots and whiners"...I didn't install Mint. I did the research and found a Linux OS that fit the bill very nicely. I never had to go digging for any of the apps or drivers...on either my desktop or laptop....they were automatically set up when I loaded Zorin on both systems...and that includes the wireless....which was always a pain to set up in Windows. You love windows so much you can use it...no one is saying not too, but a lot of us think it sucks diseased donkey wang...and THAT is a lot of people's opinions....dude.:nana:
 
cdaigle430 said:
Another SPAM thread-linux is NOT better than any other OS. It's just free. You've only been using it for a week compared to windows how long? Wait 5 years before you can say its so much better than Windows or any other OS.

How are you getting all these virusis's and malware? Did you not install spyware detectors-free and AV program-free?

What propiertary stuff are you talking about?

I think Linux sucks-it's an OS only good for one group of people-hackers and troublemakers-but thats just my opinion :)
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Thread is NOT spam. Don't like it don't read it. A lot of us have switched to one version or another of Ubuntu...which Zorin is. Dude, I didn't use FREE antiviruses or firewalls...I paid money for both AVG and Zonealarm. Updated automatically on a daily basis...as to how the fucking malware and viruses would get on my system is anyone's guess. I even had the godsdamned site checker from both AVG and Zonealarm to check any sites while surfing. Apparently the "hackers and trouble makers" only seem to bother with windows. No one is telling you to use any form of Linux...your prerogative. A lot of us hate windows and think it's a waste of hard drive space.
 
SneakerNet said:
Ok, try go into terminal mode, at the command prompt... type Shutdown, if this did reboot...then try Shutdown -h and let me know what happen.
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Ok....thanks...will try this tomorrow while I am working on both it and a laptop, and I will let you know how it goes. :ty:
 
mizwytch said:
For my me and my hubby's money Dells were the best buy...they have always proven to be reliable machines...and they are easy to work on for upgrading or whatever.
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I disagree only with this statement: I have bought numerous dell machines for personal use and I can tell you they are not the best in terms of hardware upgrade. Yes they do work, but they are proprietary machines so you can not put regular parts or switch out mother boards and chips easily. They setup the machine components with cheaper parts that cannot often be upgraded(this is how they make money and keep you buying dell). Honestly, if you want a machine you can upgrade don't get a Dell, build one by buying separate parts like motherboard, cooling system, ram, case, etc. Only then, will you truly be able to add on/upgrade more things.

Take a look at how the PC magazines build them, it's not that hard.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I disagree only with this statement: I have bought numerous dell machines for personal use and I can tell you they are not the best in terms of hardware upgrade. Yes they do work, but they are proprietary machines so you can not put regular parts or switch out mother boards and chips easily. They setup the machine components with cheaper parts that cannot often be upgraded(this is how they make money and keep you buying dell). Honestly, if you want a machine you can upgrade don't get a Dell, build one by buying separate parts like motherboard, cooling system, ram, case, etc. Only then, will you truly be able to add on/upgrade more things.

Take a look at how the PC magazines build them, it's not that hard.
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Hmmm.... I volunteer at Free IT Athens, we refurb computers and then give them to schools, the disabled, etc. Or, people can buy them really cheap, ($50), to help fund our organization. We get a lot of desk tops donated,mostly Gateways, Dells and ASUS. If a person is basically all thumbs and not at all a techy or mechanically inclined to build one, what brand would you suggest as the best one to have for being the best to buy with the ability to upgrade?:hmm:
 
too bad shitload of good games are for windows only :( So I decided to keep it on my good desktop. If theres good number of games being ported to linux, then it will be my main os.


However, I only use linux for server, slackware to be specific. But I am thinking about replacing it with gentoo soon.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I disagree only with this statement: I have bought numerous dell machines for personal use and I can tell you they are not the best in terms of hardware upgrade. Yes they do work, but they are proprietary machines so you can not put regular parts or switch out mother boards and chips easily. They setup the machine components with cheaper parts that cannot often be upgraded(this is how they make money and keep you buying dell). Honestly, if you want a machine you can upgrade don't get a Dell, build one by buying separate parts like motherboard, cooling system, ram, case, etc. Only then, will you truly be able to add on/upgrade more things.

Take a look at how the PC magazines build them, it's not that hard.
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Hmm... funny thing is that most people I know who owned a dell, had no problem. I owned one, my dad owned two (one is 10+ years, and he bought new one 4 years ago and its still running). All of em are running, only problem we encountered is bad hard drive on two dell machine. (seagates no wonder!).

My opinion, HP is the worst manufacturer for home pc, especially laptops!
 
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mizwytch said:
Hmmm.... I volunteer at Free IT Athens, we refurb computers and then give them to schools, the disabled, etc. Or, people can buy them really cheap, ($50), to help fund our organization. We get a lot of desk tops donated,mostly Gateways, Dells and ASUS. If a person is basically all thumbs and not at all a techy or mechanically inclined to build one, what brand would you suggest as the best one to have for being the best to buy with the ability to upgrade?:hmm:
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If an ASUS box uses a standard motherboard(never bought a complete system), standard case, power supply and cooling system, I'd choose that over a dell because the dell case doesn't support standard components and a standard case. If money was not an issue I'd start with a custom built box. This way, if you need to move to Blue Ray or update the motherboard you can usually do it cheaper than getting a new system. Yes, the first build cost, "might" be more, but don't have to upgrade the whole system later.

My next computer will be custom built because I found I can't upgrade the motherboard or processor on my current Dell machine due to proprietary parts.

I understand your position that cost is an issue at Free IT Athens, but your statement needs to be refined because cheap does not always follow scalability. In fact, to upgrade proprietary boxes it can be more expensive because those companies want you to buy a new system.

Just sayin...

Eighty, try updating the processor on your old system. You'll find you need another motherboard then you'll find you need a new case and power supply and that is if you actually found an upgrade for the motherboard from Dell. You can't stick a standard board in the Dell case. Yes, you computer is still running and if you are fine with that great, no need to change. However, at some point you are going to need the change and it would be better not to have to buy a whole system.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
Eighty, try updating the processor on your old system. You'll find you need another motherboard then you'll find you need a new case and power supply and that is if you actually found an upgrade for the motherboard from Dell. You can't stick a standard board in the Dell case. Yes, you computer is still running and if you are fine with that great, no need to change. However, at some point you are going to need the change and it would be better not to have to buy a whole system.
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Oh well, as long as I get lot out of it, ~4-5+ years of usage. If its obsolete then perfect! Good excuse to buy or build new computer. :D

I agree with you with one thing, I prefer custom built computer.
 
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