Wikileaks leak 250,000 classified files

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Holder: 'Significant' actions taken in WikiLeaks investigation - CNN.com


His comments came as a Swiss bank announced that it had closed the account of Julian Assange, the website's founder, dealing a second financial blow to the site in a matter of days.



why is every government starting to treat Assange like a criminal?


Oh, I am so confused ..... (not).


Holder did, however, note the government is not limited by the Espionage Act of 1917, which prohibits interference of military operations.

"That is not the only tool we have to use in the investigation of this matter," he said. "People would be misimpressioned if they think the only thing we are looking at is the Espionage Act."
 
Assange making arrangements to meet police, lawyer says
London (CNN) -- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is "in the process of making arrangements" to meet with British police regarding a Swedish arrest warrant, his attorney said Monday.

Assange is wanted for questioning by Swedish authorities over sex-crime allegations unrelated to WikiLeaks' recent disclosure of secret U.S. documents. Mark Stephens, his British lawyer, told the BBC no time had been set for the

meeting as of Monday evening, but one is likely "in the foreseeable future."

"We are in the process of making arrangements to meet with the police by consent in order to facilitate the taking of that question-and-answer as needed," Stephens said.

Assange, a 39-year-old Australian, has said he has long feared retribution for his website's disclosures and has called the rape allegations against him a smear campaign.

and somebody was saying Assange was manipulating or blackmailing governments by releasing classified documents for prosecuting him? lol!!! no such thing!
 
Assange making arrangements to meet police, lawyer says


and somebody was saying Assange was manipulating or blackmailing governments by releasing classified documents for prosecuting him? lol!!! no such thing!

Oh, my, what a change of heart when he found out he couldn't afford to pay his bodyguards when his bank account was closed ....


do try to keep up man.

He was threatening to dump all the intel if he was arrested. Changed his tune when he went broke.
 
Oh, my, what a change of heart when he found out he couldn't afford to pay his bodyguards when his bank account was closed ....


do try to keep up man.

He was threatening to dump all the intel if he was arrested. Changed his tune when he went broke.

you know this..... how?
 
and from the source you provided....

In addition, the site posted what it called an insurance policy - all 251,287 documents in an encrypted file that anyone could download. The file, however, is unreadable without a 256-digit password. WikiLeaks said it would make the password public if Assange were killed.

I still don't see where he blackmailed the government that he would release the password if he gets arrested for sex crime. :dunno:
 
and from the source you provided....



I still don't see where he blackmailed the government that he would release the password if he gets arrested for sex crime. :dunno:

This is what you get for not reading anything but a synopsis:

Massive Release of Raw WikiLeaks Files Threatened by Julian Assange's Lawyer


(Dec. 6) -- Julian Assange's lawyer has warned that supporters of the WikiLeaks founder will unleash a "thermonuclear device" of government files containing the names of spies, sources and informants if he's killed or brought to trial.
 
This is what you get for not reading anything but a synopsis:

Massive Release of Raw WikiLeaks Files Threatened by Julian Assange's Lawyer

where was the synopsis of this source? did you provided it somewhere?

and plus - how do you know "or brought to trial" is relating to sex crime? Based on reading the source you provided - I see nothing in it about threatening to release password if he were brought to trial to answer for sex crime allegation.

A person with reasonable intelligence and common sense would deduce that he would be brought to trial in USA for Espionage Act of 1917.

Stephens said he was worried the attempt to extradite Assange to Sweden could be a precursor to moving him to the U.S. "It doesn't escape my attention that Sweden was one of those lickspittle states which used its resources and its facilities for rendition flights" by the U.S. to transport terrorism suspects around the world for interrogation, he said.

Although Sarah Palin has called for Assange to be prosecuted for treason and Newt Gingrich has labeled him an "enemy combatant" who is "engaged in terrorism," U.S. charges against the hacker are unlikely. He is not a U.S. citizen and so can't commit treason against America. And because he didn't steal the documents but simply released them, he would likely be protected by the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech.

my oh my... a death threat by a very high-level government official...
Stephens added that the insurance policy was vital because Assange had received numerous death threats from around the world, including one from Tom Flanagan, a former campaign manager to Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Flanagan told a TV interviewer last week that Assange "should be assassinated" and taken out "with a drone or something." He later apologized for the remark.

again - I see nothing in there that backs your statement.
 
where was the synopsis of this source? did you provided it somewhere?

and plus - how do you know "or brought to trial" is relating to sex crime? Based on reading the source you provided - I see nothing in it about threatening to release password if he were brought to trial to answer for sex crime allegation.

A person with reasonable intelligence and common sense would deduce that he would be brought to trial in USA for Espionage Act of 1917.



my oh my... a death threat by a very high-level government official...


again - I see nothing in there that backs your statement.


Well, I can't discuss the finer shades of green with someone who can't see.
 
Well, I can't discuss the finer shades of green with someone who can't see.

I wonder if there's anybody else who agrees with your statement.

and I too have a great difficulty in having a sane discussion with a person who believes in paranormal/ghost stuff and fallacious conspiracy theories :lol:
 
btw - are you sure it's USDOJ?

Although Sarah Palin has called for Assange to be prosecuted for treason and Newt Gingrich has labeled him an "enemy combatant" who is "engaged in terrorism," U.S. charges against the hacker are unlikely. He is not a U.S. citizen and so can't commit treason against America. And because he didn't steal the documents but simply released them, he would likely be protected by the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech.

this is from your source you provided for me. Reading Comprehension failed?
 
that's ironic.

the source you just posted above was from November 30th.
the source you posted in Post #128 was 10 hours ago.

which one is more current? :)

Its ironic you were misinformed about the Espionage Act of 1917. It is also ironic that this was pointed out to you earlier in the thread. It is even more ironic that you said Assange could not be charged with treason.

I never said .... treason.

Ironic isn't it?

Stop reading the synopsis and dive in.
 
I wonder if there's anybody else who agrees with your statement.

and I too have a great difficulty in having a sane discussion with a person who believes in paranormal/ghost stuff and fallacious conspiracy theories :lol:


PJ Crowley is yet another person.

Later, on the microblogging site Twitter, Crowley said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange -- now facing extradition to Sweden in connection with a rape investigation -- "threatens to put others at risk to save his own hide."


WikiLeaks lists sites key to U.S. security - CNN.com


Just admit it, you can't have a sane discussion with anyone who holds a differing view than yours (because you are always .... right. right?)

It helps to read more than the synopsis than to wallow in your own self importance.

As a Buddhist, do you claim that you can avoid maras by walking the Noble Eightfold Path? (uh .... yeah, those nutty little weird beliefs ... ).
 
Hey guys. Let's wait until formal charges are filed? No point in pissing about til then
 
Its ironic you were misinformed about the Espionage Act of 1917. It is also ironic that this was pointed out to you earlier in the thread. It is even more ironic that you said Assange could not be charged with treason.

I never said .... treason.

Ironic isn't it?

Stop reading the synopsis and dive in.

Did you know that espionage and treason are basically same thing. Espionage is a treasonous act.

Espionage Act of 1917 - Title I - Espionage
Section 2

Whoever, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury or the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicated, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to, or aids, or induces another to, communicate, deliver or transmit, to any foreign government, or to any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, or to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly and document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blue print, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information relating to the national defence, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than twenty years: Provided, That whoever shall violate the provisions of subsection:

(a) of this section in time of war shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for not more than thirty years; and

(b) whoever, in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy, shall collect, record, publish or communicate, or attempt to elicit any information with respect to the movement, numbers, description, condition, or disposition of any of the armed forces, ships, aircraft, or war materials of the United States, or with respect to the plans or conduct, or supposed plans or conduct of any naval of military operations, or with respect to any works or measures undertaken for or connected with, or intended for the fortification of any place, or any other information relating to the public defence, which might be useful to the enemy, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for not more than thirty years.

Current Law - US Code Title 10, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 47, Subchapter X, Section 906A - Espionage
(a)(1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or
reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United
States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates,
delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or
transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly
or indirectly, anything described in paragraph (3) shall be
punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused
is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear
weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems,
or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale
attack, (B) war plans, (C) communications intelligence or
cryptographic information, or (D) any other major weapons system or
major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by
death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(2) An entity referred to in paragraph (1) is -
(A) a foreign government;
(B) a faction or party or military or naval force within a
foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United
States; or
(C) a representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or
citizen of such a government, faction, party, or force.
(3) A thing referred to in paragraph (1) is a document, writing,
code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative,
blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or
information relating to the national defense.
(b)(1) No person may be sentenced by court-martial to suffer
death for an offense under this section (article) unless -
(A) the members of the court-martial unanimously find at least
one of the aggravating factors set out in subsection (c); and
(B) the members unanimously determine that any extenuating or
mitigating circumstances are substantially outweighed by any
aggravating circumstances, including the aggravating factors set
out in subsection (c).
(2) Findings under this subsection may be based on -
(A) evidence introduced on the issue of guilt or innocence;
(B) evidence introduced during the sentencing proceeding; or
(C) all such evidence.
(3) The accused shall be given broad latitude to present matters
in extenuation and mitigation.
(c) A sentence of death may be adjudged by a court-martial for an
offense under this section (article) only if the members
unanimously find, beyond a reasonable doubt, one or more of the
following aggravating factors:
(1) The accused has been convicted of another offense involving
espionage or treason for which either a sentence of death or
imprisonment for life was authorized by statute.
(2) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly
created a grave risk of substantial damage to the national
security.
(3) In the commission of the offense, the accused knowingly
created a grave risk of death to another person.
(4) Any other factor that may be prescribed by the President by
regulations under section 836 of this title (article 36).

Based on US Code... Assange does not meet any of legal statutes as listed above. Therefore - he cannot be charged under Espionage Act of 1917. USDOJ does not support your statement either. You have failed to provide any USDOJ's statement that supports your statement.

I think I've dived in quite a lot deeper than you. again you still haven't proven any single iota of your rambling. :laugh2:

btw - you forgot that Espionage Act of 1917 was already amended and revised :laugh2: so I don't know why you kept referring to already-outdated legal statute. It's no longer called as Espionage Act of 1917.
 
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