Why is it necessary to attack the way I live my life

... He made that face because she was already attacking him. Read the thread again. ;) She unnecessarily got herself involved by ridiculing him first.

It'd be nice if we stopped pointing fingers at each other and playing the blame game.

Man up.

Again, I refer you to post 8 :)

If something is in the wrong, will you speak up about it - or say nothing? She chose to speak up about it. She didn't have to. But she did.
 
Here is the original topic: http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/86651-our-financial-state-america.html

The sky is falling! the sky is falling! :sure:

Alex was clearly responding to the article outlined in Yiz's post.

WOW I am shocked that you are blowing this off. You usually post with factual data and make a point. what happened...hung over?? There is nothing funny about the poor losing more and the rich getting richer...unless your one of the rich..Hmmmm. grinning.. Peace to you, who ever you are..

Case example of denial and a ostrich syndrome.

Yiz

Clearly neither of you understand our economic system. The national debt has been an integral part of it since the beginning of the United States. It was never, ever, intended to be paid off. It is what allows our country to build credit and set interest rates. Brush up on your economic history, paying particular attention to Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison.

Next, I don't think there is anything funny about the rich getting richer and the poor getting more poor. That is exactly why I am poo-poo'ing this, because it is fear-mongering like this that allows the economic elite to implement financial policy that keeps them on top: tax cuts for the wealthy, government bailouts of large corporations, loosening of environmental and economic constraints, etc.

Tax cuts do not create jobs: DEMAND for goods and services create jobs. Simple economics here.

There's a reason this recession has been the best thing to ever happen to the wealthiest people in the country. The widening gap between rich and poor has never been more. It's been terrible for the middle class, yes absolutely, but for the wealthy? Naaaahhhh.

The thing is, when you are afraid, you're more likely to believe the lies and BS that people want to sell you. Now let me ask, who is burying his head in the sand?

Note Alex didn't bring up student loans. Jiro and PFH suggested it.

How old are you? I'm willing to bet you went thru school on student loans.
another major problem...thanks. I clearly understand what you wrote. If I may, insulting persons who offer a different opinion is rude. Suggesting you are the only one with the facts is laughable. Saying the natioanl debt was never meant to be paid off is a fundamental misunderstanding of how we have become a country of have and have nots.. If China were to call in our debt right now we could not pay it. As it is we are allowing prime real estate and closed door deals to stay in their favor. Things are so bad , politicians who would have argued for hours on the topic are now saying we will probably need to dip into the "War Chest." I guess so! when we can't pay people that are fighting for this country. Just so you know, by profession, I am a published writer. It's going to take time for me to get back to where I was but I will do it. No I never had a student loan. I worked 3 part time jobs. I haor d never looked at your profile before....Your smugness shows..Just another opinion.....Peace to you

After the above post, Alex decided to call out her tactics, which is extremely passive-aggressive; and people says I am passive-aggressive!

Note Alex never mentioned how he was paying for school, if he was still going to school or the fact his education at Purdue was relevant to the discussion.

How I paid for my education is none of your business, nor does it bear any relevance to this discussion.

A BIG :laugh2: at you, turning this into a personal thing. You're obviously not the happy, jolly, "peace to you" type of person you represent yourself as. I'd say passive aggressive fits you much better.

Alex never criticized MidnightSun's way of life. In fact, Alex was trying to stop her from criticizing HIS life.

Well that answers the question, Unpaid student debt plays into the national debt in a BIG way. Thank you for exposing your true feelings about anyone who disagrees with you. I do not represent myself in any manner other then the way I live my life. I am glad you are familiar with the term Passive Aggresive...you are the perfect example..Oh and i have a Masters from Johns Hopkins..Paid in full! smile, I do wish you Peace Alex, I sense your anger and frustration. That would be the only reason you would laugh at me, since you don"t know me. Please keep in mind this is a simple exchange, of information on any given topic. Your suggestion I represesent myself as something I am not is unfortunate. I take my wish for Peace and Love out into the world each day, that is my path... how others, like you accept that, is their path.. I wish you only Peace and perhaps tolerance of those who voice an opinion that differs from yours..smile..I am exactly what I represent myself to be, and I forgive your remarks, since I find anger a waste of time.

So who is the aggressor here?
 
Some people will defend their worldviews up to a certain point and then accept whatever it is that you *might* be saying. Which isn't necessarily wrong (let's not all just parrot each other and not use any science/logic at all...shrug), but how peep defend themselves is an issue that should be talked about; sometimes there is unacceptable behavior but ADers and mods need to let them know in a sincere, honest manner. If I'm being an overpowering academic asshole let me know and I'll tone it down. I know I can be a wee bit aggressive with my arguments but if someone speaks up, I must back down because I really don't know who's reading it and being affected by it negatively. It's the approach to each other and the respect we give. It's hard to admit mistakes but if we admit the ones we do make, it's not as personal as it can get to be later. I'm here to learn and I hope everyone else is sort of in the same (positive) boat too.

I went through a rather nasty concussion a couple years back and it's not an easy thing to recover quickly from. Be patient with the recovery time or let people ramble on with their nonsense if you don't think they're listening to your concerns. I may disagree with some people on this board but sometimes there's a reason that is NOT personal for it. And I try to yield some respect to those who do actually put in the effort and not completely backing down or ignoring what I'm saying (unless I'm a true attention whore). Specifically to Jiro and TxGolfer <<<beer summit in a heartbeat

thanks Craig..smile I understand and agree...I have no room in my heart for negativity...I do not ATTACK ppl...and in this case I will agree to disagree smile...thanks for listening and taking the time to respond..Peace Always.M♥
 
Here is the original topic: http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/86651-our-financial-state-america.html
Alex was clearly responding to the article outlined in Yiz's post.

Note Alex didn't bring up student loans. Jiro and PFH suggested it.

After the above post, Alex decided to call out her tactics, which is extremely passive-aggressive; and people says I am passive-aggressive!

Note Alex never mentioned how he was paying for school, if he was still going to school or the fact his education at Purdue was relevant to the discussion.

Alex never criticized MidnightSun's way of life. In fact, Alex was trying to stop her from criticizing HIS life.

So who is the aggressor here?

Cmon, Alex never criticized her way of life? never? Not saying that she came on alldeaf to get attention?

I never started the speculation of Alex paying loans.. she did.

And lastly - this shows you can have a debate civilly... However it's sad he had to discuss this over IM's iwht you guys to have you fight his battles for him...
 
Here is the original topic: http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/86651-our-financial-state-america.html



Alex was clearly responding to the article outlined in Yiz's post.

Note Alex didn't bring up student loans. Jiro and PFH suggested it.



After the above post, Alex decided to call out her tactics, which is extremely passive-aggressive; and people says I am passive-aggressive!











Note Alex never mentioned how he was paying for school, if he was still going to school or the fact his education at Purdue was relevant to the discussion.



Alex never criticized MidnightSun's way of life. In fact, Alex was trying to stop her from criticizing HIS life.

who is the aggressor here?





Wow it seems you used a lot of colors to highlight some points...I have no need to argue with you about what happened..Alex has his defenders, right or wrong. I am the new person..not many ppl here know mw..I do not insult. Alex did that by insinuating i did not live the way I express myself on this site.
He is wrong but he does not know me...he did insult me. I know a Passive Aggressive as i mentioned I have a Masters from Johns Hopkins. I paid for all my education myself that was the point... Student loans that go unpaid are a huge problem for our national Debt. I guess I hit a nerve because he became the aggressive one..I forgave him as I would anyone who does not know me or about me. as with others I will agree to disagree with you.. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. Many Blessings to you. Peace M
 
We should all agree to disagree and not to point out the technicality of it all.

"Let fool be fool" and move on.
 
What am I oppressing exactly? Your implication that he is racist, audist, sexist, etc?

Have you ever considered taking a different POV on this situation?

Let's be civil here.

Well lanapoo, I do respect your opinion and i read each word.. however, I am entitled to post something that I feel needs to be discussed if you disagree I am sorry. You are stating that "we" don"t need to see threads on topics like this...do you represent everyone at AD?
I do not feel oppressed at all by you..smile..how could I..I do not know you or your intentions..I never implied he was a racist, audist or sexist, i think you using those words only incites things...I asked a qq...he didn't want to answer it and instead of ignoring me...he made comments about my life style and my state of mind....i forgive him...smile he does not know me...Peace to you lanapoo...Peace begins within..M
 
100% sound analysis of the argument in question

I wasn't even going to post on this thread because it's just too ridiculous, but I'd like to say that I think the above pretty much says everything I would ever need to say to defend myself on this matter.

Please, people, take a good look at who the real aggressors are and their manipulative tactics. It's easy to overlook this when someone is beating up on the unpopular parent of a CI user or drawing sympathy for a traumatic injury in one post and then getting vile and nasty in another, but the way we use our words and language are always important. We all have an obligation to truth and rational argumentation. Souggy has made a rare expose' of something that happens far too often on AD, and for this I thank him.
 
Well lanapoo, I do respect your opinion and i read each word.. however, I am entitled to post something that I feel needs to be discussed if you disagree I am sorry. You are stating that "we" don"t need to see threads on topics like this...do you represent everyone at AD?
I do not feel oppressed at all by you..smile..how could I..I do not know you or your intentions..I never implied he was a racist, audist or sexist, i think you using those words only incites things...I asked a qq...he didn't want to answer it and instead of ignoring me...he made comments about my life style and my state of mind....i forgive him...smile he does not know me...Peace to you lanapoo...Peace begins within..M

I was referring to a post PFH made on the other thread. It had nothing to do with you. So don't take offense to that post. ;)
 
Cmon, Alex never criticized her way of life? never? Not saying that she came on alldeaf to get attention?

I never started the speculation of Alex paying loans.. she did.

And lastly - this shows you can have a debate civilly... However it's sad he had to discuss this over IM's iwht you guys to have you fight his battles for him...

I haven't even turned on my BlackBerry by the time I saw this post.
 
I'd like to point out a couple of things:

First, AD can be a contentious place. You HAVE to have thick skin to hang around here. It's just how it is. Many differing opinions abound and they are often very diversive given the topics discussed here. When you add in politics, it can really get messy.

Second,

Traumatic brain injuries effects many aspects of the person. Their personality, their emotions, how they react to the world around them. In short, it changes the WHOLE person. People with TBI's work incredibly hard to regain what a lot of us take for granted. I say we cut Midnight Sun some slack here. Midnight was obviously upset and maybe had a reason to be.

As for what happened, I wasn't involved ; nor do I want to be. I also have a rather difficult time with that poster, but, I don't take guff from anyone. I stand my ground and make a point. If that poster (or anyone) disagrees, so be it. I let it go. At the end of the day, it's just opinions. They bug us. They bother us, but is it worth getting ourselves in a knot over it?

Not really.
 
I haven't even turned on my BlackBerry by the time I saw this post.

Yes, it was very nice of him to insult people's intelligence and assume if they stick up for decency and logic, they are just mindlessly repeating what I tell them.
 
Yeah, OB, I echo your sentiment here, especially with regards to your last paragraph.
 
... He made that face because she was already attacking him. Read the thread again. ;) She unnecessarily got herself involved by ridiculing him first.

It'd be nice if we stopped pointing fingers at each other and playing the blame game.

Man up.

I see... and he felt the need to ridicule back to poster.
I am a well educated, articulate individual who may not be able to keep up with some due to my recovery from my Traumatic brain Injury

"man up"? comical.
 
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