Who is God?

[Throwstones]

Here is an example on Trinity, you have freezing ice, hot water & tap water all 3 into 1 thing.

AMEN, EAGLECHEROKEE!!!!

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Hope

Father
Jeremiah 17:7

Jesus
1 Timothy 1:1
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Speaker with divine authority

Father
“Thus saith the Lord . . .”
—used hundreds of times

Jesus

Matthew 23:34–37
John 3:5
John 7:46
“Truly, truly, I say . . .”
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?

Father
Acts 2:24,32
Romans 8:11
1 Corinthians 6:14

Jesus
John 2:19–22

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Who gets the glory?

Father
Isaiah 42:8
Isaiah 48:11

Jesus
Hebrews 13:21
John 17:5
John 10:17,18
Matthew 27:40

 

[EagleCherokee63]

The Hands of the Carpenter

It was Joseph of Arimathaea who had the honor of taking the body of Jesus down from the cross. Think what it would be like to have to pull the cold and lifeless hands of the Son of God from the thick, barbed Roman nails.

These were carpenter’s hands, which once held nails and wood, now being held by nails and wood. These were the hands that broke bread and fed multitudes, now being broken to feed multitudes. They once applied clay to a blind man’s eyes, touched lepers, healed the sick, washed the disciple’s feet, and took children in His arms. These were the hands that, more than once, loosed the cold hand of death, now held firmly by its icy grip.

These were the fingers that wrote in the sand when the adulterous woman was cast at His feet, and for the love of God, fashioned a whip that purged His Father’s house. These were the same fingers that took bread and dipped it in a dish, and gave it to Judas as a gesture of deep love and friendship. Here was the Bread of Life itself, being dipped in the cup of suffering, as the ultimate gesture of God’s love for the evil world that Judas represented.

Joseph’s shame, that he had been afraid to own the Savior, sickened him as he tore the blood-sodden feet from the six-inch cold steel spikes that fastened them to the cross. These were the "beautiful feet" of Him that preached the gospel of peace, that Mary washed with her hair, that walked upon the Sea of Galilee, now crimson with a sea of blood.

As Joseph reached out his arms to get Him down from the cross, perhaps he stared for an instant at the inanimate face of the Son of God. His heart wrenched as he looked upon Him whom they had pierced. This face, which once radiated with the glory of God on the Mount of Transfiguration, which so many had looked upon with such veneration, was now blood-stained from the needle-sharp crown of thorns, deathly pale and twisted from unspeakable suffering as the sin of the world was laid upon Him. His eyes, which once sparkled with the life of God, now stared at nothingness, as He was brought into the dust of death. His lips, which spoke such gracious words and calmed the fears of so many, were swollen and bruised from the beating given to Him by the hardened fists of cruel soldiers. As it is written, "His visage was so marred more than any man" (Isaiah 52:14).

Nicodemus may have reached up to help Joseph with the body. As the cold blood of the Lamb of God covered his hand he was reminded of the blood of the Passover lamb he had seen shed so many times. The death of each spotless animal had been so quick and merciful, but this death had been unspeakably cruel, vicious, inhumane, and brutal. It seemed that all the hatred that sin-loving humanity had for the Light formed itself into a dark and evil spear, and was thrust with cruel delight into the perfect Lamb of God.

Perhaps as he carefully pried the crown from His head, looked at the gaping hole in His side, the deep mass of abrasions upon His back, and the mutilated wounds in His hands and feet, a sense of outrage engrossed him, that this could happen to such a Man as this. But the words of the prophet Isaiah rang within his heart: "He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities . . . the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all . . . as a lamb to the slaughter . . . for the transgression of my people he was stricken . . . yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him . . .by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many" (Isaiah 53:5–11).

Jesus of Nazareth was stripped of His robe, that we might be robed in pure righteousness. He suffered a deathly thirst, that our thirst for life might be quenched. He agonized under the curse of the Law, that we might relish the blessing of the gospel. He took upon Himself the hatred of the world, so that we could experience the love of God. Hell was let loose upon him so that heaven could be let loose upon us. Jesus of Nazareth tasted the bitterness of death, so that we might taste the sweetness of life everlasting. The Son of God willingly passed over His life, that death might freely pass over the sons and daughters of Adam.

May Calvary’s cross be as real to us as it was to those who stood on its bloody soil on that terrible day. May we also gaze upon the face of the crucified Son of God, and may shame grip our hearts if ever the fear of man comes near our souls. May we identify with the apostle Paul, who could have gloried in his dramatic and miraculous experience on the road to Damascus. Instead, he whispered in awe of God’s great love: "God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world" (Galatians 6:14). (23:53 continued)

 

[Cloggy]

With crucifixian, the nails went through the wrists. Not the hands.
So, anyone describing a crucifixian and putting the nails through the hands did not pay attention... or wasn't there.

The hands will not be able to support the weight of the body.
The nails were driven just under the wrist, between the bones of the arms.
This cause the thumbs to turn inward dur to a nerve that was hit as well.
(Actually, this was one of the main things on the Turin Shroud... the position of the thumbs was correct, as opposed mainly all other "pictures" of a crucifixian....

 

[mecooncat]

It was nailed thru the hands, the ropes was wrapped around his upper arms to keep him leaning forward. As for Turin Shrod...nobody knows if this is true or not. There are millions of Jesus' look-alike in this earth today as it is the past.

 

[Cloggy]

Facts about the Crucifixion

This led me first to a study of the practice of crucifixion itself; that is, torture and execution by fixation to a cross. I am indebted to many who have studied this subject in the past, and especially to a contemporary colleague, Dr. Pierre Barbet, a French surgeon who has done exhaustive historical and experimental research and has written extensively on the subject.

Apparently, the first known practice of crucifixion was by the Persians. Alexander and his generals brought it back to the Mediterranean world -- to Egypt and to Carthage. The Romans apparently learned the practice from the Carthaginians and (as with almost everything the Romans did) rapidly developed a very high degree of efficiency and skill at it. A number of Roman authors (Livy, Cicer, Tacitus) comment on crucifixion, and several innovations, modifications, and variations are described in the ancient literature.

For instance, the upright portion of the cross (or stipes) could have the cross-arm (or patibulum) attached two or three feet below its top in what we commonly think of as the Latin cross. The most common form used in our Lord's day, however, was the Tau cross, shaped like our T. In this cross the patibulum was placed in a notch at the top of the stipes. There is archeological evidence that it was on this type of cross that Jesus was crucified.

Without any historical or biblical proof, Medieval and Renaissance painters have given us our picture of Christ carrying the entire cross. But the upright post, or stipes, was generally fixed permanently in the ground at the site of execution and the condemned man was forced to carry the patibulum, weighing about 110 pounds, from the prison to the place of execution.

Many of the painters and most of the sculptors of crucifixion, also show the nails through the palms. Historical Roman accounts and experimental work have established that the nails were driven between the small bones of the wrists (radial and ulna) and not through the palms. Nails driven through the palms will strip out between the fingers when made to support the weight of the human body. The misconception may have come about through a misunderstanding of Jesus' words to Thomas, "Observe my hands." Anatomists, both modern and ancient, have always considered the wrist as part of the hand.

Crucifixion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Location of the nails

Religious depictions of the crucifixion of Jesus typically show him supported by nails through the palms.For the sake of expediency, the victim was likely affixed to the cross by ropes, nails, or some combination of the two. In popular depictions of crucifixion (possibly derived from a literal reading of the translated description in the Gospel of John, of Jesus' wounds being 'in the hands'), the victim is shown supported only by nails driven straight through the feet and the palms of the hands, which is possible, if there was a foot-rest to relieve the weight; on their own, the hands could not support the full body weight[1].

Another possibility, that does not require tying, is that the nails were inserted just above the wrist, between the two bones of the forearm (the radius and the ulna). The nails could also be driven through the wrist, in a space between four carpal bones. As some historians have suggested, the Gospel word χειρ (cheir) that is translated as 'hand' may have in fact included everything below the mid-forearm. Indeed, Acts 12:7 uses this word to report chains falling off from Peter's 'hands', although the chains would be around what we would call 'wrists'. This shows that the semantic range of χειρ is wider than the English 'hand', and can incorporate nails through the wrist.

Another possibility, suggested by Frederick Zugibe, is that the nails may have been driven in on an angle, entering in the palm in the crease that delineates the bulky region at the base of the thumb, and exiting in the wrist, passing through the carpal tunnel.

A sedile, or a foot-rest, was often attached to the cross, for the purpose of taking the man's weight off the wrists. This was most likely a simple peg or slab of wood, upon which the victim would rest the feet.[citation needed]

A new study and a documentary on the National Geographic Channel's Quest For Truth: The Crucifixion, as well as brief news article on the experiment and the documentary, have shown that a person can be suspended by the wrists. Nailing the feet to the side of the cross relieves strain on the wrists by placing most of the weight on the lower body. The palms were probably not the location for the nails, because there are no structures in the hands to prevent the nails from ripping through the flesh due to the weight of the body.

 

[Maria]

It was nailed thru the hands, the ropes was wrapped around his upper arms to keep him leaning forward. As for Turin Shrod...nobody knows if this is true or not. There are millions of Jesus' look-alike in this earth today as it is the past.

Can you show me the scriptures where it stated about the ropes was wrapped around his upper arms ?

 

[mecooncat]

Can you show me the scriptures where it stated about the ropes was wrapped around his upper arms ?

I was told by a friend few years ago that his upper arms is wrapped with rope. Where he got it from, I do not know. If it's not true, please just tell me. But I do know the nail part.

Cloggy...Read this:

Was Jesus nailed to the cross by his hands or by his wrists?

 

[EagleCherokee63]

The Sermon on the Mount
Matthew Chapter 5

This sermon not only reveals God’s divine nature, it puts into our hands the most powerful of evangelistic weapons. It is the greatest evangelistic sermon ever preached by the greatest evangelist who ever lived.

The straightedge of God’s Law reveals how crooked we are:

* Matt. 5:3: The unregenerate heart isn’t poor in spirit. It is proud, self-righteous, and boastful (every man is pure in his own eyes—Proverbs16:2).
* Matt. 5:4: The unsaved don’t mourn over their sin; they love the darkness and hate the light (John 3:19).
* Matt. 5:5: The ungodly are not meek and lowly of heart. Their sinful condition is described in Romans 3:13–18.
* Matt. 5:6: Sinners don’t hunger and thirst after righteousness. Instead, they drink iniquity like water (Job 15:16).
* Matt. 5:7: The world is shallow in its ability to show true mercy. It is by nature cruel and vindictive (Genesis 6:5).
* Matt. 5:8: The heart of the unregenerate is not pure; it is desperately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9). Those who are born again manifest the fruit of the Spirit, live godly in Christ Jesus (Matt. 5:3–9), and therefore suffer persecution (Matt. 5:10–12). However, their purpose on earth is to be salt and light: to be a moral influence, and to bring the light to those who sit in the shadow of death (Matt. 5:13–16).

Look now at how the Messiah expounds the Law and makes it "honorable" (Isaiah 42:21). He establishes that He didn’t come to destroy the Law (Matt. 5:17); not even the smallest part of it will pass away (Matt. 5:18). It will be the divine standard of judgment (James 2:12; Romans 2:12; Acts 17:31). Those who teach it "shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 5:19). The Law should be taught to sinners because it was made for them (1 Timothy 1:8–10), and is a "schoolmaster" that brings the "knowledge of sin" (Romans 3:19,20; 7:7). Its function is to destroy self-righteousness and bring sinners to the cross (Galatians 3:24). The righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees was merely outward, but God requires truth in the inward parts (Psalm 51:6). Jesus shows this by unveiling the Law’s spiritual nature (Romans 7:14).

The Sixth Commandment forbids murder. However, Jesus shows that it also condemns anger "without cause," and even evil- speaking (Matt. 5:21–26): "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give an account thereof in the day of judgment" (Matthew 12:36).

The Seventh Commandment forbids adultery, but Jesus revealed that this also includes lust, and it even condemns divorce, except in the case of sexual sin of the spouse (Matt. 5:27–32).

Jesus opens up the Ninth Commandment (Matt. 5:33–37), and then shows that love is the spirit of the Law—"The end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart . . ." (1 Timothy 1:5). This is summarized in what is commonly called the Golden Rule: "All things whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the Law and the prophets" (Matthew 7:12, emphasis added).

"Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law" (Romans 13:8–10).

When a sinner is born again he is able to do this (Matt. 5:38–47). He now possesses "the divine nature" (2 Peter 1:4). In Christ he is made perfect and thus satisfies the demands of a "perfect" Law (Psalm 19:7; James 1:25). Without the righteousness of Christ he cannot be perfect as his Father in heaven is perfect (Matt. 5:48). The Law annihilated his self-righteousness leaving him undone and condemned. His only hope was in the cross of Jesus Christ. After his conversion, knowledge of the Law that brought him there keeps him at the foot of the cross. John Wesley said, "Therefore I cannot spare the Law one moment, no more than I can spare Christ, seeing I now want it as much to keep me to Christ, as I ever wanted it to bring me to Him. Otherwise this ‘evil heart of unbelief’ would immediately ‘depart from the living God.’ Indeed each is continually sending me to the other—the Law to Christ, and Christ to the Law."

 

[EagleCherokee63]

The Significance of the First Miracle

1. The turning of water into blood was the first of the public miracles that Moses did in Egypt (Exodus 7:20), and the water into wine was the first of the public miracles that Jesus did in the world (John 2:11).

2. The signs that God gave to Egypt in the Old Testament were plagues, destruction, and death, and the signs that Jesus did in the world in the New Testament were healings, blessings, and life.

3. The turning of water to blood initiated Moses (a type of the Savior— Deuteronomy 18:15) leading his people out of the bondage of Egypt into an earthly liberty; the turning of water into wine initiated Jesus taking His people out of the bondage of the corruption of the world into the glorious liberty of the children of God (Romans 8:21).

4. The turning of water to blood culminated in the firstborn in Egypt being delivered to death, while turning the water into wine culminated in the life of the Firstborn being delivered from death (Colossians 1:18).

5. The Law was a ministration of death, the gospel a ministration of life. One was written on cold tablets of stone, the other on the warm fleshly tablets of the heart. One was a ministration of sin unto condemnation and bondage, the other a ministration of righteousness unto life and liberty (2 Corinthians 3:7–9).

6. When Moses changed the water into blood, we are told that all the fish in the river died. When Jesus initiated the new covenant, the catch of the fish are made alive in the net of the kingdom of God (Matthew 4:19).

7. The river of blood was symbolic of death for Egypt, but the water into wine is symbolic of life for the world. The letter of the Law kills, but the Spirit makes alive (2 Corinthians 3:6).

8. When Moses turned the waters of Egypt into blood, the river reeked and made the Egyptians search for another source of water supply (Exodus 7:21,24). When the Law of Moses does its work in the sinner, it makes life odious for him. The weight of sin on his back becomes unbearable as he begins to labor and be heavy laden under its weight. Like the Egyptians, he begins to search for another spring of water; he begins to "thirst for righteousness," because he knows that without a right standing with God, he will perish.

9. Moses turned water into blood, and Jesus’ blood turned into water (1 John 5:6). They both poured from His side (John 19:34), perhaps signifying that both Law and grace found harmony in the Savior’s death—"Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other" (Psalm 85:10).

10. The water of the old covenant ran out. It could do nothing but leave the sinner with a thirst for righteousness. But as with the wine at Cana, God saved the best until last. The new wine given on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:13; Ephesians 5:18) was the Bridegroom giving us the new and "better" covenant (Hebrews 8:5,6).

 

[Throwstones]

Anyone wants to know more about GOD.... My answer is Study yourself to find the truth who is GOD from the Bible!

 

[SxyPorkie]

I will repeat...WHO CREATES GOD????? seems no one are able to anser this QUESTION???????

 

[shel90]

I will repeat...WHO CREATES GOD????? seems no one are able to anser this QUESTION???????

U do have a very good question. See if anyone can answer that.

Iam not a religous person so I wouldn't know.

 

[Throwstones]

I will repeat...WHO CREATES GOD????? seems no one are able to anser this QUESTION???????

This is very good questions we do not know how GOD created himself. It's mystery of GOD! Our mind is limited! God is unlimitation mind! We have to put our faith in Him!

 

[Maria]

God is the Alpha and Omega. Eternal without end. If, He created this earth and universe with His Words out of His Mouth as it just appeared, then there's NO ONE created Him.

 

[Throwstones]

God is the Alpha and Omega. Eternal without end. If, He created this earth and universe with His Words out of His Mouth as it just appeared, then there's NO ONE created Him.

AMEN Yes, God is Alpha and Omega... Remember HE IS LIGHT EVERLASTING.. no one can create GOD! God is Almighty and Omnipotence!

 

[Yiffzer]

I guess 99% of all of you are Christians. What about the 1% that are Muslims?

In the Islamic faith, God is the same as all Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Christianity) with the exception of Jesus being God. God is above us all being omniscient and omnipotent. God is the creator of the universe and mankind.

 

[Yiffzer]

I will repeat...WHO CREATES GOD????? seems no one are able to anser this QUESTION???????

How were you created? By your parents. How were your parents created? By their parents. How did they get created? By their parent. It is a never ending chain. How would you really know where it began?

How was the universe created? By the big bang. How was the big bang created? By something else. How did something else get created? By the X factor. Again, the chain effect. The truth is, we will never know.

God has repeatedly told us that to attempt to understand God is simply out of our comprehension level. We would never know for this generation or the next generation. Therefore, to attempt to compare God to one of us or the world isn't possible. The thing is, you can not equate God to anything we see here. God exists out of time, completely uninvolved in our own time. To ask that question is simply invalid.

 

[Foxrac]

How Keep avoid go hell???

anyone who not believe God here. God felt broke heart. God don't want you go hell but you choose one Serve Jesus Christ or serve devil.

I don't want hear this OUCH!!! my hand on my eye, ear and mouth! (means don't want listen or see happen)

Matthew 25:41

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Matthew 25:46

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.



Revelation 20:15

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. geezzz!!!

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

There's too many debate about homosexual, such as some people said homosexual can go to hell because not right to what God said but other people believe that God did love them.

That's proof about hard to believe about them, no more for me but I only care about homosexual, that which is my biggest factor in my personal.

 

[Foxrac]

I guess 99% of all of you are Christians. What about the 1% that are Muslims?

In the Islamic faith, God is the same as all Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Christianity) with the exception of Jesus being God. God is above us all being omniscient and omnipotent. God is the creator of the universe and mankind.

Not me, I'm not Christian.