When People Disagree.....

Hey... remma that we all are not the same people. We all are different people and that makes all of us UNIQUE! :) If, we ALL agree on many issues everyday and all the time, then we will NEVER be able to LEARN anything new when there's a disagreement and help to explain why it is disagreement... that's somethin' we havta to learn everyday. Each day brings a different day. It's all about life! :)

Do you want a "diploma" to show that you graduate from learnin' this life before you are in R.I.P ? LOL
 
CyberRed said:
Hey... remma that we all are not the same people. We all are different people and that makes all of us UNIQUE! :) If, we ALL agree on many issues everyday and all the time, then we will NEVER be able to LEARN anything new when there's a disagreement and help to explain why it is disagreement... that's somethin' we havta to learn everyday. Each day brings a different day. It's all about life! :)

Do you want a "diploma" to show that you graduate from learnin' this life before you are in R.I.P ? LOL
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exaclty...
 
Tousi said:
Vampy, maybe this is an oversimplification but.....when you first see someone out of line, why not delete that person's post because he/she broke the rules.....this would allow the otherwise fine/civilized topic to continue? I mean, why should one person be allowed to ruin a topic and get it locked?
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I agree with this, yet at the same time, knowing how difficult it can be to be at the right time when it comes to moderating...although, once someone does get a bit out of line or taking their own opinions in such a way that is directed at someone else that isn't polite or courteous should be warned and edited...I would do that as I have done so in the past while I was a moderator for another forum...doing so, keeps the thread alive and moving right along for the sake of others who are genuinely interested seeing opinions and views from all angles and interacting with other posters....rarely was there a time I had to 'lock' a thread....but more so of stepping in and doing so in a most courteous way to get everyone back in line...while respecting everyone's own view.... :thumb:
 
^Angel^ said:
Because it not fair to all the members...Just because someone complaint about other members being cruel or posting harshly should have their posts removed instead of having the thread closed or locked...I find it unfair for those who had created a thread and suddenly is closed or locked because some members can't seem to come across in a nice way!....

I have seen some wonderful threads that are being locked or closed just because a few members don't get along or attacking one another... :(
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That's right ^Angel^, I have seen that it's been unfair to those who created a thread and seeing it get locked up...cuz a couple or more ppls. gotten out of line...I can imagine anyone who started a thread, and later on, it gets locked...and how they would also feel when they hadn't done anything wrong themselves....

Like with every barrel of apples, there's bound to be one or more rotten apples...and it gets 'tossed out'...summarily likewise, a few 'rotten' posts ought to be either edited or tossed out just to maintain and keep a thread 'alive' and 'going'....imo.
 
Tousi said:
Vampy, maybe this is an oversimplification but.....when you first see someone out of line, why not delete that person's post because he/she broke the rules.....this would allow the otherwise fine/civilized topic to continue? I mean, why should one person be allowed to ruin a topic and get it locked?
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If I detected a post like that immediately, I'd take action. However, there are times when I'm not in AllDeaf at the moment and it gets out of hand. When I sign on, I see a flame war that has been going on for a couple hours before I got online. That's when I lock the thread. What most people tend to do is those "eye-for-an-eye" thing. In other words, "He did it to me, so I'll do it back to them!"
 
Socrates said:
Sometimes it is best to accept that you cannot change a person's perception, however you can share thoughts with the person you disagree so passionately. Take my most dearest friends, the Charlie's Chickies and KootchieBootchie.. we do disagree on some issues however we love each other to death. Love you lots, CCF! _\m/
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_\m/ Yep!! And it's very important to not take sides between two "warring" parties... There may be even hard feelings, but definitely take "timeouts" whenever needed. We're just human beings with all the good sides as well as the bad sides to live with.

Even more importantly - WALK OUR TALK. Be in our integrity. Especially when it comes to approaches and how we look at things. It won't be a problem agreeing or disagreeing - when both disagrees, all we can do is nod our heads affirming that we DO agree to disagree on some matters. That means allowing each other to disagree, and that it's okay. Then have wine afterwards. :D That way it's easier to hear each other and see where both of you can meet, instead of having to bend over for one another when his/her will is stronger.
 
Liza said:
It's always good to agree on disagreeing, when it comes to that. :)
I do feel if something bothers you, it helps to rant about it - but also be honest with yourself with certain patterns and take the steps to resolve those within your power. You can't force others to think like you do, nor agree for that matter. It'll only drain your energies and frustrate you more. It is much easier to lay the blame on others instead of doing some self reflection about why you feel the way you do. I know exactly how that feels. Been there myself, and I'm a better person because of everybody in my life. Hey, ultimately, it's good to do what you feel is right. Everyone will always have different feelings and that makes them special, not wrong. IMO anyway! Sometimes people can be just too different and have different ideas, that it can be just ok to not be close.. at least for a while with agreeing to disagree. We all grow, anyway. ;)

Hey Vamp, do you get paid enough for those hot threads? lmao
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Hmm... let me see...

I get paid... $0! :) I don't care about the pay. I enjoy it. :thumb:
 
VamPyroX said:
If I detected a post like that immediately, I'd take action. However, there are times when I'm not in AllDeaf at the moment and it gets out of hand. When I sign on, I see a flame war that has been going on for a couple hours before I got online. That's when I lock the thread. What most people tend to do is those "eye-for-an-eye" thing. In other words, "He did it to me, so I'll do it back to them!"
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Then you need a straight shot of tequila? LOL

In these cases, sometimes somebody gotta be the better person eh? I do need to remember to "allow" others to disagree, and leave it to that with a nice comment about it. I do feel everyone everywhere in my life (even at AD) has made me a better person, and I am grateful for that.

I hope your job at AD gets easier soon :)
 
Malfoyish said:
I think the most important thing to do is LISTEN to one another and try to figure out what exactly it is that people disagree on. A lot of misunderstandings can be avoided if you just LISTEN and express your own feelings as clearly as you possibly can while at the same time respecting the other person's opinion as well.

Something along the lines of - "I respect your thoughts on this topic, BUT...I don't agree. And, this is why...yadda yadda yadda...(insert your own explanation here)...."

Hey, you may still disagree with someone, but at least there will be no hard feelings in the process.
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Very well put, Malfoy. I agree with you. It has been my experience that some people like to come to message boards (whether this one or others), and "stir the pot", so to speak. I've seen posts in which people will knowingly flame someone just to stir up something, and get people going. Then, "the flamer" will quietly disappear, leaving the whole entire board in turmoil. This isn't right. This is also why I tend to shy away from message boards. In fact, this board has been the only board I've posted on.
 
Cheri said:
I am Curious Why would Someone Locked a thread just because Someone cannot post in a nice way? It does not make No Sense to me...It makes it sounds Like it is Everyone's Fault.



Have Confidence in expressing opinions and Willingness to listen to another's opinions/openness for the expression of different views.. Lack of respect a symptom of todays major social problems...Can We Respect eachother without name calling or Insults? :mrgreen:

Thank you all for your Input on This Thread..(((Hugs))))
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I am curious also, but for the forum, "For, not against Abortion" its not that the reason she closed it, she just wanted it to close, have no more ppl arguing, like me and u. [which i very apologize. :)], she just didnt want to do that forum anymore. no point tho. :ily:
 
OH one more thing! I totally agress with VamPyroX ... he totally got the concept. Hope ur all good, Cheri! :)
 
lucidjen said:
I am curious also, but for the forum, "For, not against Abortion" its not that the reason she closed it, she just wanted it to close, have no more ppl arguing, like me and u. [which i very apologize. :)], she just didnt want to do that forum anymore. no point tho. :ily:
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Me and You arguing? I have said nothing to you in that Thread...You Must be Mistaken. :mrgreen:
 
I've been through it once myself... I was arquing with one person in another forum several years ago about religion beliefs. I was upset and I scold that person for believing this way then this dear fellow made a point to me. I was a bit embarrassed and admit that this fellow was absolutely right. We shouldn't change other people's views. Of course, we have the right to voice our opinion and at the same time don't be so judgemental when it comes to disagreements. Accept what we believe and continue to have a conversation without flaming each other. Flaming and hurting someone isn't going to help anything. So... I learned quite a lot over the years by reading other people's post and how they responded. I became much better person after that because of you.

Charlie's Chickies have shared a lot of fun together on-line especially on the forums. We shared different interests, confided in each other, even though there were times that we don't agree, but our friendship still remains. Know why we're still together? Because of our maturity. We accept each other for who, what and the way we are. _\m/ C.C.F.
 
Tousi said:
Vampy, maybe this is an oversimplification but.....when you first see someone out of line, why not delete that person's post because he/she broke the rules.....this would allow the otherwise fine/civilized topic to continue? I mean, why should one person be allowed to ruin a topic and get it locked?
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I like your idea! Tousi....If i was the moderator, i would delete that person's post if he/she broke the rules...gooood idea! so how about it, Vamp????
 
To me,
Important is Agreement and Disagreement over our opinions each other respectful.

I beleive is Discussion with agree or disagree make you stronger & healthy until you realize how others's views are right or wrong...

I like to collect every's views what I can agree or disagree with them whatever I like without insultions...
 
i agree with angel, cheri, liza and angel's bf...

if they dont agree then just put in post simple and if they dont like it then JUST LEAVE IT ALONE!! not worth for people agrue over that more more, it will be hot in post!! it not worth!!! sometime it turn them off abt that!!!

if u have plms with someone, pls put in PM and talk private instead in post it will be WORSE!! u know what i mean??
 
Katzie said:
I've been through it once myself... I was arquing with one person in another forum several years ago about religion beliefs. I was upset and I scold that person for believing this way then this dear fellow made a point to me. I was a bit embarrassed and admit that this fellow was absolutely right. We shouldn't change other people's views. Of course, we have the right to voice our opinion and at the same time don't be so judgemental when it comes to disagreements. Accept what we believe and continue to have a conversation without flaming each other. Flaming and hurting someone isn't going to help anything. So... I learned quite a lot over the years by reading other people's post and how they responded. I became much better person after that because of you.

Charlie's Chickies have shared a lot of fun together on-line especially on the forums. We shared different interests, confided in each other, even though there were times that we don't agree, but our friendship still remains. Know why we're still together? Because of our maturity. We accept each other for who, what and the way we are. _\m/ C.C.F.
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_\m/ Katziechicky ;)

Another thing when you are in disagreement, it's good to know if you are not holding double standards... for ex, tell others to not get insulting.. but then you do it anyway. I've just seen that recently in another thread. :| Sad.
 
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One thing that bothers me about people is that when they cannot agree on something, they seem to hold a crusade to not forget it and continue talking about something. Some people don't know how to let it go. Acting as if one is holier than thou, puh-leaz. Stop being paranoid already and move on.
 
illustrator said:
I disagree with everbody. :nana:
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:giggle: ...True True!..

Its ok to disagree with everybody....I may not agree with alot of people but I still try to keep an open-mind on each opinion its great to learn from one another!...I think I have learned so much more than I ever thought I would....and I become a better person myself!.... :D
 
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