When drug makers' profits outweigh penalties

anakin said:
first one - Kewitt also said he failed to clear frost from the entire windshield of his truck, limiting his vision as he drove. Kewitt was on his way to work at Duke's Concrete Construction Co., which owned the truck he was driving. this should be self-explanatory...

second one - He said officers didn't find any marijuana in Lattin's truck and didn't smell marijuana in the air. also, marijuana stays in your system from three days to a month (it depends on the use and your metabolism). THC binds to fat cells, and you would have to exercise and sweat like crazy to get rid of the THC.

third one - Maxey, who only had a learner's permit, slammed the car into reverse. learner's permit, reallllyyyy...
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you'd make a very good lawyer for them :lol:
 
anakin said:
first one - Kewitt also said he failed to clear frost from the entire windshield of his truck, limiting his vision as he drove. Kewitt was on his way to work at Duke's Concrete Construction Co., which owned the truck he was driving. this should be self-explanatory...

second one - He said officers didn't find any marijuana in Lattin's truck and didn't smell marijuana in the air. also, marijuana stays in your system from three days to a month (it depends on the use and your metabolism). THC binds to fat cells, and you would have to exercise and sweat like crazy to get rid of the THC.

third one - Maxey, who only had a learner's permit, slammed the car into reverse. learner's permit, reallllyyyy...
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LOL...

You're forgetting i live in B.C.; the land of potheads-- and responsible ones too.

Everyone know that marijuana is not harmful, but most of the potheads around here know that one shouldn't be be under the influence prior to driving. In fact, they frown on people who drive under the influence because it makes the decriminalizing process harder.
 
souggy said:
LOL...

You're forgetting i live in B.C.; the land of potheads-- and responsible ones too.

Everyone know that marijuana is not harmful, but most of the potheads around here know that one shouldn't be be under the influence prior to driving. In fact, they frown on people who drive under the influence because it makes the decriminalizing process harder.
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agreed, but it is hardly the factor in those accidents. if you're actually driving while stoned, you're more aware of your surroundings (paranoia is quite common) and you drive slower. the same thing could be said for antidepressants -- they do alter the state of your mind, and yet they are legal to use while driving. funny, eh? there's a reason why pizza places deliver, just call them and they'll come to you with pizza, hehe ;)
 
Rather you are taking prescription drugs, alcohol, or illegal drugs, it is still illegal to drive under influence. I could say the same thing about tobacco, although tobacco don't make you stoned. And you probably argue that Marijuana don't make you stoned either. Anyway, people should not be driving on antidepressant if it cloud their judgment. And some antidepressant do. But antidepressant suppose to treat mental illness or depression. another word, it is suppose to treat your judgment, not cloud it.

Does anyone know the effect of Marijuana in pregnancy? I know that tobacco do come some damage. My dad also don't believe it cause cancer (he is a chain smoker).
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Rather you are taking prescription drugs, alcohol, or illegal drugs, it is still illegal to drive under influence. I could say the same thing about tobacco, although tobacco don't make you stoned. And you probably argue that Marijuana don't make you stoned either. Anyway, people should not be driving on antidepressant if it cloud their judgment. And some antidepressant do. But antidepressant suppose to treat mental illness or depression. another word, it is suppose to treat your judgment, not cloud it.

Does anyone know the effect of Marijuana in pregnancy? I know that tobacco do come some damage. My dad also don't believe it cause cancer (he is a chain smoker).
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straight from granny storm crow's list:

PREGNANCY

Oily fish makes 'babies brainier'
BBC NEWS | Health | Oily fish makes 'babies brainier'

Ganja use among Jamaican women.
http://www.rism.org/isg/dlp/ganja/analyses/GanjaBabyes.html

Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study
Latest News - Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study

Cannabis Relieves Morning Sickness
CCRMG

Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica
Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica: An Ethnographic Study

The Endocannabinoid-CB Receptor System
http://www.nel.edu/pdf_/25_12/NEL251204A01_Fride_.pdf

CLAIM #7: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY HARMS THE FETUS
Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths

More Pregnancy Highs Than Lows
More Pregnancy Highs Than Lows: The Hempire - [cannabis, britain]

Medicinal cannabis use among childbearing women
ScienceDirect - Complementary Therapies in Clinical Practice : Survey of medicinal cannabis use among childbearing women: Patterns of its use in pregnancy and retroactive self-assessment of its efficacy against ‘morning sickness’

Use of anti-emetic herbs in pregnancy: women's choices, and the question of safety and efficacy
ScienceDirect - Complementary Therapies in Nursing and Midwifery : Use of anti-emetic herbs in pregnancy: women's choices, and the question of safety and efficacy

Medical marijuana: a surprising solution to severe morning sickness
http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/marijuana.html

PRENATAL EXPOSURE

Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica
Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica: An Ethnographic Study

The Endocannabinoid-CB Receptor System
http://www.nel.edu/pdf_/25_12/NEL251204A01_Fride_.pdf

Ganja use among Jamaican women.
http://www.rism.org/isg/dlp/ganja/analyses/GanjaBabyes.html

Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study
Latest News - Dreher's Jamaican Pregnancy Study

Nonmutagenic action of cannabinoids in vitro
Nonmutagenic Action of Cannabinoids <i>in vitr</i><i>o</i>

Prenatal exposure to tobacco, alcohol, cannabis and caffeine on birth size and subsequent growth.
A comparison of the effects of prenatal exposure t... [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1987 Mar-Apr] - PubMed result

Tobacco and marijuana use on offspring growth from birth through 3 years of age.
The effects of prenatal tobacco and marijuana use ... [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1992 Nov-Dec] - PubMed result

Prenatal marijuana use and neonatal outcome.
Prenatal marijuana use and neonatal outcome. [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1991 May-Jun] - PubMed result

Prenatal exposure to a cannabinoid receptor agonist does not affect sensorimotor gating in rats
ScienceDirect - European Journal of Pharmacology : Prenatal exposure to a cannabinoid receptor agonist does not affect sensorimotor gating in rats

Hyperemesis Gravidarum and Clinical Cannabis: To Eat or Not to Eat?
http://haworthpress.com/store/ArticleAbstract.asp?ID=18139

Medical marijuana: a surprising solution to severe morning sickness
http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/marijuana.html

Comparison of meconium and neonatal hair analysis for detection of gestational exposure to drugs of abuse
Comparison of meconium and neonatal hair analysis for detection of gestational exposure to drugs of abuse
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I don't know how safe it is, but to be on the safe side, I would not take it during pregnancy and at least 6 months before pregnancy as well.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
I don't know how safe it is, but to be on the safe side, I would not take it during pregnancy and at least 6 months before pregnancy as well.
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well... nobody should be on something (booze, smoking, etc) during pregnancy anyway.
 
Jiro said:
well... nobody should be on something (booze, smoking, etc) during pregnancy anyway.
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yup, but there's a conflict -- what if a mother uses it for medical reasons? smoking isn't the only way to consume it.
 
anakin said:
yup, but there's a conflict -- what if a mother uses it for medical reasons? smoking isn't the only way to consume it.
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a mother shouldn't be preggie in the first place then but hey..... it's her body and it's her baby. who am I to tell her what to do? The doctor has advised her about possible birth defects due to her smoking or a consumption of certain substance so..... her choice.
 
Your blood oxygen is also your baby's oxygen, so anything you breathe affect the baby as well.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Marijuana is dangerous around the kids I never smoked it so I don't know what it is like nor I cared to, but I was told that little bit goes a long way...So one inhale of it might make you stone enough to neglect your children. You can't really control the amount you inhale, and they already have a hard time trying to ban cigerettes because it effect other people's health, why add this to the problem (people may not want to deal with Marijuana smoke when working in a hospital setting)
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Dangerous? Hardly, I speak from experience myself. I can be high and still do my normal routine quite naturally as I would when I am not high.

Although it has been years, from my teen years to my twenties, but I do know it has never hindered from my day to day activities and it does help reduce stress quite considerably. Nor have I ever neglected from anything.

You speak from assumption and not from experience.

Yiz
 
Well, Alcoholics in my family thinks they can drive normal, work normal, etc. You really can't argue with them either.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Well, Alcoholics in my family thinks they can drive normal, work normal, etc. You really can't argue with them either.
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yup. can't really argue with them... when they're in prison... :aw:
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Well, Alcoholics in my family thinks they can drive normal, work normal, etc. You really can't argue with them either.
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except you can get alcohol poisoning from consuming too much alcohol.. there have been deaths from alcohol use. none from cannabis use. if you think you've consumed too much cannabis, you'd just go to sleep.

yizuman said:
I was surmise that alcohol along with cannabis would come to play, not cannabis alone.
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http://www.alldeaf.com/lifestyle-he...profits-outweigh-penalties-2.html#post1559439
 
yizuman said:
I was surmise that alcohol along with cannabis would come to play, not cannabis alone.
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I was careful about that. I looked for cases where they were under influence of cannabis only. If the alcohol was involved, it would be mentioned in the article.
 
Well, just be careful with it. And don't smoke it around people who may not want expose to it. If pots and alcohol a dangerous mix, and one is drinking in the same room with one who is smoking pot, does that affect the one who is drinking. I am curious how it affect the 2nd party.
 
Jiro said:
I was careful about that. I looked for cases where they were under influence of cannabis only. If the alcohol was involved, it would be mentioned in the article.
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Well, I could agree there are different types of cannabis that contains varying of strengths. Some are stronger in effects than others. Although, I would have to agree that driving is not recommended while under the influence of cannabis.

I never drove while under the influence of cannabis, I just never felt the need to. Besides, it would be stupid anyway, considering the risks of being pulled over. Not a good idea.

Yiz
 
Lighthouse77 said:
Well, just be careful with it. And don't smoke it around people who may not want expose to it. If pots and alcohol a dangerous mix, and one is drinking in the same room with one who is smoking pot, does that affect the one who is drinking. I am curious how it affect the 2nd party.
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dude, i wouldn't use it around people who wouldn't feel comfortable with it. it's a part of being responsible. a contact high ("secondhand smoke") can occur, but it is VERY rare, and it only has happened to one person that i know of so far - but i'm not sure about him, he could've faked it.

also, yiz, did you see my rebuttals to those articles?
 
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