What Is the Big Deal With Gay Marriage?

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Reba said:
God commanded that marriage is for one man and one woman. That's His perfect plan, as stated in the book of Genesis, and reiterated throughout Scripture.

The Bible also condemns homosexual behavior as sin. Allowing legal sanction and social acceptance to sin encourages more of the behavior.
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Look at Boston churches sex scandal, I really do not think the churches should be saying anything against gay marriages when the churches been sexually abusing boys and girls for years! And this is still going on. That was not apart of God 'perfect plan,. If God was to had 'made' he should had made them so they would follow his 'perfect plan, he didn't he gave man a choose to do as he please. And to tell man he has to follow his perfect plan or else to me is a setup!
 
sunny_signs said:
Reba, you say your conscience make you vote against legislation which harm others. This include gay people? Or only straight people / people you deem worthy not be harmed?
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All people.
 
naisho said:
Of course, for sure. :lol:
It is a little easier said than done sometimes, try convincing a local congregation pastor to not participate in those topics, leave it alone or stay out of the issue. It's akin to arguing with kokonut to stop posting about Obama. :giggle:
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I think you have a point there. :laugh2:
 
Reba said:
All people.
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And yet you would vote to discriminate against a population's rights just because of a religious belief? That is creating harm. Real, quantifiable, measurable harm.
 
Just an FYI to anyone that happens to live in this part of the US... there's going to be a massive protest FOR the legalization of gay marriage on Sat, Nov. 5th in Cincinnati, OH. Here are the details:

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I'll be there! :D
 
jillio said:
Why should anyone be afraid to be known as a homosexual? Oh, wait...some of the opinions on this forum explain that.:cool2:
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I never said they should be afraid to be identified. You made an erroneous assumption. I just thought it was a general policy for posters to not use the names of family and friends in a public forum, regardless of the topic.

I never use the names of any family or friends in any of my posts at AD. I respect their privacy.
 
jillio said:
It may come to that. Remember the civil rights war?
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I was joking of course but I think it will come to war actually. I think we are within 10 years of another civil war. Again time will tell
 
Ildri said:
Just an FYI to anyone that happens to live in this part of the US... there's going to be a massive protest FOR the legalization of gay marriage on Sat, Nov. 5th in Cincinnati, OH. Here are the details:

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I'll be there! :D
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Yep! And I will be in Cincinnati that week-end for a seminar, but will be showing up at the rally as well.
 
Reba said:
I never said they should be afraid to be identified. You made an erroneous assumption. I just thought it was a general policy for posters to not use the names of family and friends in a public forum, regardless of the topic.

I never use the names of any family or friends in any of my posts at AD. I respect their privacy.
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Apologies. I not know this rule. :ty:
 
TXgolfer said:
I was joking of course but I think it will come to war actually. I think we are within 10 years of another civil war. Again time will tell
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The way I see it, we permitted discrimination and horrendous hate crimes against people of color as long as those who were not directly affected failed to take a stand and speak out against the injustice. When people of all races had their sensibilities offended long enough, they came together and change happened. It will be the same way with this issue. Straight people are beginning to join with the GLTB population and take a stand against discrimination and hate. The tide will again turn. It is just a shame that so many will remain passive until push comes to shove.
 
jillio said:
My conscious determines my conscience.:cool2:

Not everyone follows Jesus. And you certainly won't bring them to Jesus by using His name to marginalize and discriminate against them.
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I never said or even implied that everyone follows Jesus.

I won't lie about what Jesus said, or let others lie about what he said.

Jesus didn't marginalize or discriminate against anyone.

You can slander me if you want but that takes the cake when you misrepresent Jesus.
 
Reba said:
I never said they should be afraid to be identified. You made an erroneous assumption. I just thought it was a general policy for posters to not use the names of family and friends in a public forum, regardless of the topic.

I never use the names of any family or friends in any of my posts at AD. I respect their privacy.
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I agree. Even if topics escalate into friendly chat, heated debates, clash of the titans and opinions, I would never resort to revealing their real names without their consent. I feel it's a shared general courtesy to be modest with your fellows around you, regardless of skin color, ethnicity, gender, religion, alignment, etc. Even though I know of LDS and JW people, I don't make an attempt to criticize or put them down in reality too.
 
dogmom said:
Jillio - YES

rolling - already had my words
and religion was ALREADY part of the equation. it's the sad reality of the answer to the question when the question is:

<quote> ....What Is the Big Deal With Gay Marriage?

Why are some people against this? For example, lets say 2 gay people youve never met and most likely never will meet, decide to get married. What business is it of yours? Why would you even care? <endquote>



that being the original question, the answer is as evidenced by this thread...but notice that I did NOT write "....my religion" or "some religions" BUT

" ....in the West or U.S., people have generally been socialized to believe a myth of a certain behavior pattern, and especially in religious terms. People may not have thought of any other way or seen something besides what they're used to. So they have all biases and misperceptions.
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I think is crazy to not allow gay people to get married, just look at all the jobs it would create! Marriage is an dying institution, less men and women are getting married today. You would think states would want to allow gay marriages, but the politicians are afraid of losing backing from conservatives
voters, I think it more about candidates wanting to get votes than about what the bible say! I God does not belong in political debates. The government and church are to be separate!
 
Reba said:
I never said or even implied that everyone follows Jesus.

I won't lie about what Jesus said, or let others lie about what he said.

Jesus didn't marginalize or discriminate against anyone.

You can slander me if you want but that takes the cake when you misrepresent Jesus.
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How am I slandering you? I am simply repeating what you are yourself, saying.

You see it as misrepresentation. I see it as truth. See the subjectivity involved? I would never consider using my interpretation to deny you legal rights. Yet you would justify the same against others by your subjective interpretation of something in a book.

If Jesus or God has a problem with anything I say, I'm sure they will find a way to let me know. You really don't need to speak for them.

You are correct. Jesus didn't marginalize. So why do those who claim to worship in his name make a habit of that practice?
 
Ildri said:
Just an FYI to anyone that happens to live in this part of the US... there's going to be a massive protest FOR the legalization of gay marriage on Sat, Nov. 5th in Cincinnati, OH. Here are the details:

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I'll be there! :D
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Oh goody! I will send my goons. :lol:
 
jillio said:
The way I see it, we permitted discrimination and horrendous hate crimes against people of color as long as those who were not directly affected failed to take a stand and speak out against the injustice. When people of all races had their sensibilities offended long enough, they came together and change happened. It will be the same way with this issue. Straight people are beginning to join with the GLTB population and take a stand against discrimination and hate. The tide will again turn. It is just a shame that so many will remain passive until push comes to shove.
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I think you are wrong on this.....Time will tell.
 
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