What´s the difference between Reglious and Bible?

[Liebling:-)))]

wow a good posting....

other day, I was reading a bumper sticker on a car talking about god and religion...

somehow I passed the car bec it was going too slow for my speed,,, suddenly this car went around and cut front of me, swearing and all,,he was a minister/pastor whatever he was wearing white neckie thing with black jacket.

explain? I thought you were not supposed to judge people? even on road or walking??

I think religion/god has gone overboard with so many diff religions here. I do repect any people who have diff religions. got friends here who practices buddism, mormon, catholic, baptist, and many more....they are all diffferent religions with many different point of view.

ughh. its giving me an headache already about religion stuff.

Exactly, that´s what I thought the same.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Judge or not judge? The Bible teaches us that we can judge anyone for his wrong action, but we cannot judge anyone's heart. (Matthew 7) The Bible also teaches us that Christians can restore his bretherns or sisters. (Galatians 6:1)

Disagree:

It´s only god who judge us, not you, other or me.

 

[Reba]

There's a difference between religion and the Bible. The Bible is a "book" designed for a few types of religions such as Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, etc. Religion is what we worship such as what I recently mentioned plus Buddism, Islamism, etc.

Actually, God gives His Word in the Bible for whomever accepts it. It doesn't matter what religion someone is. God doesn't limit His Bible. He offers salvation to everyone. Jesus the Savior is not a religion. Jesus accepts everyone who accepts Him.

 

[Reba]

Originally Posted by Askjo:
"Judge or not judge? The Bible teaches us that we can judge anyone for his wrong action, but we cannot judge anyone's heart. (Matthew 7)"

Disagree:

It´s only god who judge us, not you, other or me.

As Askjo posted, it is true that Christians can judge the actions of other people. They just can't judge the heart, or reasons, for another person's actions. God knows and judges the heart.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

As Askjo posted, it is true that Christians can judge the actions of other people. They just can't judge the heart, or reasons, for another person's actions. God knows and judges the heart.

Interesting... I understand and respect your belief.

To me, I would not judge people for the kind of grounds because it´s their life and bussiness. I´m neutral person and dont judge people for that.

 

[Maria]

It's interestin' to find that some people DO judge other people when they don't say things, except in their own minds. They can look at other people and judge them, but they will NOT say it directly with them about it, but to other people that they love to gossip about other people WHO they judge.

I've seen like this tooo often times everywhere.

 

[Askjo]

Disagree:

It´s only god who judge us, not you, other or me.

Well, anyone rebuke you if you are bad. Did you (as a supervisor in a dorm for example) rebuke children and punish them for bad actions? If so, to rebuke them is a part of a word, "judge."

 

[Askjo]

As Askjo posted, it is true that Christians can judge the actions of other people. They just can't judge the heart, or reasons, for another person's actions. God knows and judges the heart.

Good point!

 

[Maria]

Well, anyone rebuke you if you are bad. Did you (as a supervisor in a dorm for example) rebuke children and punish them for bad actions? If so, to rebuke them is a part of a word, "judge."

I remember the word "rebuke" in the bible. Jesus rebuked to His people when their actions were misconducted. He rebuked Moses for not obeyin'... for instance.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well, anyone rebuke you if you are bad. Did you (as a supervisor in a dorm for example) rebuke children and punish them for bad actions? If so, to rebuke them is a part of a word, "judge."

That's the big difference between rebuking and judging

 

[Liebling:-)))]

My son told us few days ago that he don´t beleive that God is exist. He beleive Evolution.

I asked him why?

He explained that our blood could be SAME if we came from Eve and Adam time... He don´t understand why we have different blood groups... It could not be from Eve and Adam... but cavemen.... stone aged...

He also said that Jesus could be exist at that time and got his 12 apolostles to write the bible for him... The people worship him as "King of Iseral" but he don´t beleive that Jesus is son of God...

He also said... Why we have different reglious for...?

He only beleive proofs is dinosaurs...

He has a good point...

What do you think?

 

[chirowife03]

The blood type question-

You are familiar with the 12 tribes? Each tribe is a different race.

Dinasaurs-

We are unsure of how long the creation did take place. We know that the scriptures refer in time to one day, seven days..but how long is one day in the Lords time frame. We in my church beleive one day is a thousand years to God. We have no idea what lived in this earth during those creation times. We are still finding animals in the ocean that have lived here forever.. and we are now just finding them. We know that the elephant existed in South America, the Book of Mormon refer to them during those times. They are not there now. We will not have all the answers in this lifetime, we will one day have them made known to us.

Different religions-
We have different religions becuase the truth was lost at one time, we call that the great apostacy- after christ and his apostles were all killed..the truth of HIS gospel was lost. So man started up their own churches, trying to emulate the church that christ had established when alive. But, when he did and the Apostles died off.....the Preisthood (the power to act in the name of god which came thru christ) was gone. So no more revelations, no more prophets....no more of the true chruch existed. But, we are told in the scriptures that before the second coming.. the lord would restore his church again to prepare for his second coming.

Evolution is just another man made idea.

I"m just glad that I will teach my children the truth and not have them go to outside sourses to learn them. They will be taught from the womb.

Happy New Year.

Penni

 

[Banjo]

Evolution is just another man made idea.

It's a scientific theory which is something creationism is not. Creationism is a theologic theory.

Creationism has no place in science classes. It belongs in religious studies, period because there's not much to back it up with scientific evidences in comparison to the theory of evolution.

If evolution is just nothing but a silly idea, then can you explain why Indian and African elephants look quite different? Keep in mind that Indian elephants originally came from Africa till India itself was separated on a plate from the other plate. Not just that, South America was also once a part of Africa many, many years ago.

Not only that, there's a lot of species in India that are related to the species found in Africa but they've adapted to the environment in both Africa and India explaining the differences in their body and facial structures.

Care to explain why people in different countries look different from each other? Even their skull structures are different. That's something that cannot be explained in the theory of creationism. But in evolution, it can be because it's all about the environment that affects us.

Now that's evolution. You just don't want to believe it but it doesn't make it go away.

Just because creationism may not be the true concept, but it doesn't meant God isn't real. I believe people largely misinterpreted the words of God to begin with.

 

[Endymion]

Actually, God gives His Word in the Bible for whomever accepts it. It doesn't matter what religion someone is. God doesn't limit His Bible. He offers salvation to everyone. Jesus the Savior is not a religion. Jesus accepts everyone who accepts Him.

Dos this mean a secular individual who accepts Jesus as a kind, warm person with good intents and accepts the kidness for fellow man Jesus endorsed may also have an opportunity for salvation?

 

[Reba]

...If evolution is just nothing but a silly idea, then can you explain why Indian and African elephants look quite different?

So, they look different; they are both still elephants, right? That doesn't prove evolution. Now, if African elephants started evolving into dogs or some other animal, THAT would be news!

Care to explain why people in different countries look different from each other? Even their skull structures are different. That's something that cannot be explained in the theory of creationism. But in evolution, it can be because it's all about the environment that affects us.

Same deal as the elephants. People from different areas look different but they are still all people; there are no half-ape/half-human spieces around. People groups change in appearance due to simple genetics. When a group is geographically isolated, specific genetic traits are even more pronounced for that group when compared to another geographic group. That doesn't require millions of years--you can see it in any family reunion with three or more generations present.

Why do you think skull shapes can't be explained thru creationism? When God created Adam and Eve, they each contained all the genetic material necessary for future generations. As each generation reproduced and multiplied, some groups moved to different locations and became more isolated. The traits of each "tribe" became more concentrated and differentiated from the others.

At the time of the great Flood, the genetic pool narrowed down again to Noah and his family. However, they still carried a variety of genetic material with them.

Genesis 10

"1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. 4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. 5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. 7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. 8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. 10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, 12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. 13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, 14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth, 16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, 17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, 18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. 19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. 20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.

21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born. 22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. 23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash. 24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber. 25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan. 26 And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah, 27 And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah, 28 And Obal, and Abimael, and Sheba, 29 And Ophir, and Havilah, and Jobab: all these were the sons of Joktan. 30 And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east. 31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations. 32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."

They were off to a good start in re-populating the world!

 

[Endymion]

Did you know that the prediction that Bird Flu may jump to humans is contingent on evolutionary theory?

So here's how it goes: either I'm pissed that the theories of mankind origin are all wrong, or I'm pissed my taxpayer dollars are being wasted. This plays like a noontime soap!

Either way, whatever the outcome, I get pissed. I should organize petitions in favor of the winning side, a march near the white house, and lots of other fun actitivities.

 

[Reba]

Dos this mean a secular individual who accepts Jesus as a kind, warm person with good intents and accepts the kidness for fellow man Jesus endorsed may also have an opportunity for salvation?

Every one has the opportunity for salvation. "Secular" person, "religious" person, any person can be saved.

Any person who:

1. confesses that he/she is a sinner

2. repents his/her sins

3. believes (in head and heart) that Jesus is God, that Jesus shed His blood and died on the cross to pay for all his/her sins, and that Jesus rose again on the third day for life eternal

4. and then prays to Jesus "save me", will be saved.

Nothing else is required. No rites or rituals. No baptism, no ceremony, no church membership. No family connections, no special works. Nothing else.
Jesus shed His blood, once and for all, for all people, past, present and future.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

 

[Liebling:-)))]

*pulled my old thread for newbies*...

 

[Cheri]

Judge or not judge? The Bible teaches us that we can judge anyone for his wrong action, but we cannot judge anyone's heart.

Wrong! Wrong! "Do not judge so that you will not be judged." We are all sinners, how can a sinner judge another sinner? Only person who is allow to judge is the man above "God" If you judge people, You have not time to love them, Mother Teresa says. Before you judge someone, You must judge yourself, because you're no better than me or anyone else.

 

[Cheri]

As Askjo posted, it is true that Christians can judge the actions of other people. They just can't judge the heart, or reasons, for another person's actions. God knows and judges the heart.

Sorry, Reba I don't agree with that. Jesus never judged anyone, He would rather the sinner come to him to admit that this person is a sinner, and wants forgiving.