Went to the doctor today...not good news.

I'm considering switching doctors. I've been reading up on causes of enlarged/fatty livers and it seems there can be several causes. I brought up the fact that I am gluten intolerant (undiagnosed celiac disease...my doctor can't do testing to prove it, but I have the symptoms) and that that can affect my liver but she shrugged it off. Also the fact that I have been on Seroquel long term which can also affect my liver.
The medication she put me on for high blood pressure and high heart rate is not supposed to be prescribed to someone with asthma, which I have. It also says something about no taking it if you are on certain antidepressants, including fluoxetine, which I am on.
It just seems like she isn't considering all options.

Now onto the alcohol portion. I'm not at the point where I want to quit completely. I know I'm going to get shit for that, but it's the truth. If I find out that my liver problems are alcohol related and can only be fixed by quitting drinking, then I'll quit. All I am willing to do at this point is cut back, but honestly, after I told my doctor that I cut back significantly and she basically said that it doesn't matter, makes me go into the mindset of "well if it doesn't matter, I might as well drink my normal amount". I'm not saying its logical, but it is how I feel.

As far as the cannabis goes, I went through a phase where I used that to relax. Or if I was stressed/bored/wanting to mix things up, etc. It's not something I have any desire to use anytime in the near future.

I am starting to feel a bit better physically. I'm still a bit emotional and stressed about all my health stuff tho. I'm trying to stay positive, but it sucks that I was finally doing really well and was happy with my life, and now I'm not...
 
So, you're willing to switch diet, meds and doctors for your health but you're not willing to stop drinking for your health? :hmm:

Do you understand that regardless of the cause for your liver problems (meds, diet, genetics, hepatitis, etc.), the damage is done, and alcohol will only make it worse? Your liver will not get better if you keep running alcohol thru it. It's a chemical reality.
 
hoodoowytch said:
I am aware of this. Frankly, it just makes common sense to do the research on anything before you use it. Some people can't do chamomile because they have ragweed allergies.

I wasn't the only person who mentioned the e-cigs. How do you know they are no better? I don't "need" to do anything. I was simply giving some ideas learned from personal experience. If I need to quit giving advice then so does everyone else on this forum, and that includes you whatdidyousay.
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Telling people to 'go natural' is a lot more riskier than saying a person should never start drinking if they have bipolar . I never heard of anyone getting sick by NOT drinking but I do know you can get sick going natural. I feel the company that put out bottles of St Johnwort should warned that the pills are antidiuretic. This was not on the label and it should be, as I got very sick by not being able to urine for 48 hours.
 
Age 24 is really too young an age to have heart problems. Just try to take better care of yourself. Walking is a good excercise to do. I'm overweight myself via some meds that I am on and weining myself off of it so I can loose the weight I need to. I will pray for you.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Telling people to 'go natural' is a lot more riskier than saying a person should never start drinking if they have bipolar . I never heard of anyone getting sick by NOT drinking but I do know you can get sick going natural. I feel the company that put out bottles of St Johnwort should warned that the pills are antidiuretic. This was not on the label and it should be, as I got very sick by not being able to urine for 48 hours.
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I have been practising and using natural health remedies for 20 years....so do millions of people. There are millions of people who use St. John's Wort everyday with no issues. St.John's Wort is NOT an anti-diuretic...in fact it is used to cleanse the blood, liver and kidneys. Sounds to me like you had some undiagnosed kidney problems to begin with.

There are some herbs that are not to be used if there is any sort of kidney disease...St. John's Wort is one of them.
 
hoodoowytch said:
I have been practising and using natural health remedies for 20 years....so do millions of people. There are millions of people who use St. John's Wort everyday with no issues. St.John's Wort is NOT an anti-diuretic...in fact it is used to cleanse the blood, liver and kidneys. Sounds to me like you had some undiagnosed kidney problems to begin with.

There are some herbs that are not to be used if there is any sort of kidney disease...St. John's Wort is one of them.
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You're so full of it! I do NOT have any kidney disease and my DR. looked up St Johnwort and it said it's anti-diuretic . I hope to HELL you're NOT making medial diagnose for other people online that you never met!
 
ChasingRainbows,

I worked the ICU for many years and have seen countless people die of liver failure. It is by far and away the most brutal death I have witnessed and I have witnessed a lot.

Rather or not your drinking is the initial cause of your liver failure at this point continuing to drink could likely kill you. However, I must say the only person I saw die of liver failure while in their twenties was, in fact, an alcoholic. Alcoholism is complex and isn't as simple as people who drink everyday and will drink anything they can. Please make an appointment with a substance abuse councilor and have your drinking habits properly evaluated.

No one deserves to die the way liver failure patients die and no family should have to witness such a demeaning and horrifying death of a loved one. You deserve better.

With the medications you take, you really shouldn't be drinking at all. With your weight, smoking, and drinking along with the medications you take your are putting your liver through one heck of a workout on a daily basis.

Try this. Have your doc do a liver panel. For three months do not drink, eat healthy balanced meals, drink lots of water. Avoid sodas, try tea and coffee in moderation for a caffeine boost. To help with sleep do not drink any caffeine 4 hours before bed time. Dim the lights in your home and turn off the TV and computers/tablets/phone for at least one hour before bed. These things all interfere with the release of serotonin which helps sleep. After 3 months have another Liver panel done. Seeing improvements will help you stay motivated.

To help with your stress try a beginners yoga DVD. Do it an hour before bed or when you first get up in the morning. I know it sounds nuts, but I used yoga to help recover from a back injury and it helped me quit smoking. I just didn't want to smoke. When my back got better and I got out of the habit of doing the yoga...I started smoking again. I'm about to start a new yoga regimen to get me back on track. When I did yoga everyday I just felt a million times more relaxed. It may help you too. If not, try some other form of exercise. It will release endorphin into your system and leave you with happy feelings and could help with your drinking, smoking and overall mood and health.

Good luck to you!
 
GunnarsMommy said:
ChasingRainbows,

I worked the ICU for many years and have seen countless people die of liver failure. It is by far and away the most brutal death I have witnessed and I have witnessed a lot.

Rather or not your drinking is the initial cause of your liver failure at this point continuing to drink could likely kill you. However, I must say the only person I saw die of liver failure while in their twenties was, in fact, an alcoholic. Alcoholism is complex and isn't as simple as people who drink everyday and will drink anything they can. Please make an appointment with a substance abuse councilor and have your drinking habits properly evaluated.

No one deserves to die the way liver failure patients die and no family should have to witness such a demeaning and horrifying death of a loved one. You deserve better.

With the medications you take, you really shouldn't be drinking at all. With your weight, smoking, and drinking along with the medications you take your are putting your liver through one heck of a workout on a daily basis.

Try this. Have your doc do a liver panel. For three months do not drink, eat healthy balanced meals, drink lots of water. Avoid sodas, try tea and coffee in moderation for a caffeine boost. To help with sleep do not drink any caffeine 4 hours before bed time. Dim the lights in your home and turn off the TV and computers/tablets/phone for at least one hour before bed. These things all interfere with the release of serotonin which helps sleep. After 3 months have another Liver panel done. Seeing improvements will help you stay motivated.

To help with your stress try a beginners yoga DVD. Do it an hour before bed or when you first get up in the morning. I know it sounds nuts, but I used yoga to help recover from a back injury and it helped me quit smoking. I just didn't want to smoke. When my back got better and I got out of the habit of doing the yoga...I started smoking again. I'm about to start a new yoga regimen to get me back on track. When I did yoga everyday I just felt a million times more relaxed. It may help you too. If not, try some other form of exercise. It will release endorphin into your system and leave you with happy feelings and could help with your drinking, smoking and overall mood and health.

Good luck to you!
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My dad was an alcoholic and he also had a sweet tooth, when alcoholics
are not drinking they'll eat a lot of sweets . My ex husband was an alcoholic and I went to his AA meeting with and there where always a lot sweets there and it always got eaten up.
 
sorry hear you. surprised comments feeling my mom is very heavy alcolohic is very addict damage something. I was scary. previous Sept 1/2011/ I remember recognized to my mom is alcholol she knew me I am really healthy lucky. she said knew love me of course. I do care. I said serious alcholic is very risk damage liver, kidney stroke heart and alots of problem it is scary
It is very alots of healthy problem risk avoid on healthy bad sadly. I said pretty rough hard life.. scary for worry addict on life. it is prevent Alcohol I learn new how best. I do best increase. she knew me I do well healthy better improve glad of me! more reduce! she told to my caregiving she knew I am surprised she knew me she said love me! alots of me she said you are seems healthy!. of course i am surprised never heard it. she wise care to me. I specialist to focus to adjustment to anxiety only I am not bipolar doctor is exactly said anxiety shocked. doctor said truth anxiety whoa. I said it is better normal anxiety disorder.. it is pretty scary it is stable!

Hope be you safe to you healthy. I know wish be you won't failure. your specialist to system blood and chemical is right to blood healthy is correct to health secure safety . doctor is very specialist to caregiving is very safe. Don't be want to sick means diastase. If suppose don't want to chaos is sick. I understand it is scary really overwhelming to hard for you. it is very harder for you. specialist to professor to health best to safer for you. it is very improve health successfully.!it is safe for you make sure protect.
 
Smithtr said:
sorry hear you. surprised comments feeling my mom is very heavy alcolohic is very addict damage something. I was scary. previous Sept 1/2011/ I remember recognized to my mom is alcholol she knew me I am really healthy lucky. she said knew love me of course. I do care. I said serious alcholic is very risk damage liver, kidney stroke heart and alots of problem it is scary
It is very alots of healthy problem risk avoid on healthy bad sadly. I said pretty rough hard life.. scary for worry addict on life. it is prevent Alcohol I learn new how best. I do best increase. she knew me I do well healthy better improve glad of me! more reduce! she told to my caregiving she knew I am surprised she knew me she said love me! alots of me she said you are seems healthy!. of course i am surprised never heard it. she wise care to me. I specialist to focus to adjustment to anxiety only I am not bipolar doctor is exactly said anxiety shocked. doctor said truth anxiety whoa. I said it is better normal anxiety disorder.. it is pretty scary it is stable!

Hope be you safe to you healthy. I know wish be you won't failure. your specialist to system blood and chemical is right to blood healthy is correct to health secure safety . doctor is very specialist to caregiving is very safe. Don't be want to sick means diastase. If suppose don't want to chaos is sick. I understand it is scary really overwhelming to hard for you. it is very harder for you. specialist to professor to health best to safer for you. it is very improve health successfully.!it is safe for you make sure protect.
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Yes, it's very sad that your mom died so young. I know that you miss her very much. I know that you also struggle with anxiety. Thank you for sharing your heart with us, and for encouraging the OP, ChasingRainbows. :hug:
 
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My son's liver is also in danger. His bilirubin has been high. The next step is they will do a HIDA scan and make sure his gall bladder and liver is functioning right and no blockage. He is only 13 and they said he may also have Gilbert's Syndrome. If it does comes out to be that, he will not be able to take certain medication nor drink alcohol. Since his liver can not break it down like a normal liver can.

Many things can cause liver damage. Have you been tested for hepatitis? Or any other liver diseases. I agree with the others. You really should not eat, take or drink anything that will be hard on the liver. Preserving it and focus on getting better. Seek treatment to help you to stop drinking.
 
I do not have all the health issues you have, but I do need to quit drinking and loose some weight. I am a little over 3 months with quitting smoking. My motherinlaw told me she lost a ton of weight when she stopped drinking. I want to be able to run again someday, but my knees can not do it at the moment. I need to loose some weight first.

Maybe we can support each other in becoming alcohol free. Contact me if you wish.
 
Reading through this....wow! Really, the doctors should be the ones giving all the advice regarding to her medical issues.

All we can is give support.

However, I agree with others..if your liver is in danger, best to quit the alcohol.
 
MangaReader said:
This might be the main reason why people aren't eating healthy - the cost of eating healthy.

If you can afford it, try to eat healthy food. Many people, including me, cannot afford to eat healthy because fruits & vegetables are not cheap compared to junk food. Everywhere you see junk food advertised on sale, buy one get one free so forth but rarely with fruits and vegetables. And also I don't live near stores so I can't stock up on fresh fruits & vegetables either.

Take one day at a time and try your best to improve your health little at a time.
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if he can afford ciggs and booze then he can afford decent food,he got make that call...has he done thyroid test
 
The whole business of telling what people need to change... smiles.. is it possible? Does someone read something on an online forum and then change how they think and approach life? I think it is a part of a bigger picture. The online forum is just a part of it all when it comes to support for the good you want to do.

First of all do you really want to change your habits successfully? If you don't then don't just keep doing it all the same. Why should a doctor care about you if you don't care about you?

If you want to change, do it smart and make it an all out effort. Not all out for instant results all out for positive results.

There is a reason the workforce of the world marches to the tune of the clock and how much got done. It solves two vital functions, one is about the real costs of doing business- always a reality. The other is about getting business done -- the reason everyone is there.

I fire myself everyday and hire myself back again to keep doing the same lousy job of taking care of myself. It is easy to talk not so easy to do. That is why it is good to focus on the pay for the job. In your case staying alive. There is a reason the word liver comes from the same latin roots as life,live, etc. Without the liver you are dead.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
You're so full of it! I do NOT have any kidney disease and my DR. looked up St Johnwort and it said it's anti-diuretic . I hope to HELL you're NOT making medial diagnose for other people online that you never met!
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Nope. Not making any diagnoses at all. Just made the comment that it sounded like there might have been kidney disease. All I can say is don't use it if it causes issues for you. Just because it causes issues for you doesn't mean it causes issues for everyone.

No need to be so pissy. All I had done was make suggestions. All anyone else here is telling chasingrainbows is she has to listen to them and quit doing this and that. Like that ever ****ing works.
 
sonocativo said:
Ive been going to walmart, in the produce isle they have Pico De Gallo already made in small tubs ( tomatoes, onions, jalapinos,lemon juice, chilantro...ect...) I eat it straight out of the container with totito chips plain....it fills me up fast, full of fiber and healthy. Yes, I drink a pepsi with it, but drink water and Gatorade the rest of the day. The pounds really drop off for me, I eat this as a snack in between meals. I eat normal meals home cooked ( tacos, chili and sometimes Shy Knees )

lets see how many figures that out because my wife couldn't at work and everyone was laughing at her...lol
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what gatorade is it glucose fizzy drink
 
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