Use piano to oppress ASL and Deaf??

[shel90]

A cochlear implant is not a thing.

For you, you may call it a thing, but to another person who relies on a CI solely would call it another word.

Accessibility.
Accommodation.
Communication.

I am saying that was what Carl was saying. Not my words.

However, technically a CI is a thing. Is that so wrong that it is a thing?

 

[Buffalo]

A cochlear implant is not a thing.

For you, you may call it a thing, but to another person who relies on a CI solely would call it another word.

Accessibility.
Accommodation.
Communication.

One could consider CI to be a thing if all a deaf person is getting is just enviroment sounds.

 

[shel90]

A thing is something we can see, touch, feel and taste. I dont see what the big argument is?

 

[Mrs Bucket]

You may call a CI a thing but to another person it is not a thing.

To a sighted person, the white cane is a thing but to me, it is my lifelink to the sighted world.

See the parallel between the white cane and the CI.

 

[shel90]

You may call a CI a thing but to another person it is not a thing.

To a sighted person, the white cane is a thing but to me, it is my lifelink to the sighted world.

See the parallel between the white cane and the CI.

That's fine but in the English vocabulary, both are things because they are nouns.

Carl has his point of view and you have yours. Maybe he was referring to the noun label when he said the piano and a CI are things.

Nobody is right or wrong.

 

[Buffalo]

You may call a CI a thing but to another person it is not a thing.

To a sighted person, the white cane is a thing but to me, it is my lifelink to the sighted world.

See the parallel between the white cane and the CI.

I could say the same about ASL but unfortunately many hearing people don't see it that way.

 

[shel90]

I could say the same about ASL but unfortunally many hearing people don't see it that way.

Well, ASL is a thing...it is a language. A language is a thing although we cant touch, feel, hear, nor taste it.

 

[kokonut]

The statement "Carl Schroeder argues that piano is just a thing to oppress ASL" doesn't mean that Carl argues in support of piano or against piano. He has been saying that the piano just sits there. That is why he said "the piano is just a thing. It is nothing".

Yes. I stand corrected. I watched the video again. He did state in a context about how some Deaf people see that piano (and the playing of the piano) oppresses Deaf and ASL. Carl does in fact say it is simply just a thing (i.e. not worth arguing or even agreeing that it does oppress).

Thanks.

 

[Mrs Bucket]

That's the beauty about life, aye?

Nobody's the same and everyone views things differently.

Just like walking in a Baskins Robbin ice cream store... so many flavours & toppings.

Shel & Buffalo!

 

[kokonut]

Well, ASL is a thing...it is a language. A language is a thing although we cant touch, feel, hear, nor taste it.

Well, music has a language of its own where it provides a variety of emotion through music. It could be a happy tune, sad, somber, reflective, angry and so on. It's only tangible through the sound of music in our ears (and sometimes through our bodies). As for ragtime piano, it simply has an intoxicating effect when you listen to it.

 

[shel90]

That's the beauty about life, aye?

Nobody's the same and everyone views things differently.

Just like walking in a Baskins Robbin ice cream store... so many flavours & toppings.

Shel & Buffalo!

 

[deafskeptic]

Buffalo really got it...I watched it again. Carl said in the Deaf community and his culture, people argue that it oppresses ASL and Deaf people. Carl is saying that "no, it doest cuz a piano is just a thing." So, Carl was actually disagreeing with the discussion among the Deaf community that the use of piano is oppressive.


Now, the point of his vlog makes sense.

Mm. I should've watched the video.

 

[Frisky Feline]

He didnt say anything about being against them. They just hold no meaning to him because he grew up watching his family play the piano and remembered nothing significant about it.

i did watch it again. i am getting it. He said, "in deaf community, they feel that piano is to oppress deaf people, but no piano is nothing." But it bothers me is that he didn't put any positive vibes about paino. or i have never heard any deaf people telling me that music instruments or pianos are oppress to deaf people. I wonder what made him to make a vlog about it.

 

[shel90]

IMO, Carl is entitled to his opinions and feelings about the pianio. According to him, it holds no sentiment to him and that's ok. Not everyone has to like the piano. To me, it means nothing too as it wasn't a part of my life growing up.

As for the Deaf community saying it oppresses ASL, maybe in his region they have discussed it. When people say Deaf community, we have to take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Buffalo]

i did watch it again. i am getting it. He said, "in deaf community, they feel that piano is to oppress deaf people, but no piano is nothing." But it bothers me is that he didn't put any positive vibes about paino. or i have never heard any deaf people telling me that music instruments or pianos are oppress to deaf people. I wonder what made him to make a vlog about it.

Perhaps he feel netural toward piano. I guess what he heard from other deafs prompts him to make a vlog about it. Or he like being in the limelight? (j/k)