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Reba said:
However, one illegal act usually leads to another.

After entering the country illegally, the person usually needs identification and and SSN in order to work. So, they get fake ID's and steal someone else's SSN. It also means they lie to officials when their status is questioned. They also have to give false information on official documents for driver's licenses, school admissions, job applications, etc. It's a chain reaction.
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There are some workplaces don't require documents to hire undocumented immigrants.

Other - see #20
 
Foxrac said:
First paragraph, yes, enter USA illegally is violation of immigration law.

My point is not all undocumented immigrants are criminal OTHER THAN IMMIGRATION STATUS and they want to get better job that they found none in their country.

I have disagree with your vocabulary and I met students that come from parent who are undocumented immigrants so they prefer to call undocumented immigrants rather than illegal immigrants or illegal aliens.
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They might prefer to use that term because it makes them feel better but it is not accurate.
 
Foxrac said:
There are some workplaces don't require documents to hire undocumented immigrants.

Other - see #20
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Then they both break the law.
 
Reba said:
They might prefer to use that term because it makes them feel better but it is not accurate.
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Well, I disagree with you, however you rather to make tough at them.

I don't blame on undocumented immigrants, non-criminal than just their immigration status because there are a lot of problem with our law. Why are you and other voters don't find a right lawmakers to fix the flaws in immigration law in few decades ago?
 
Reba said:
Then they both break the law.
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Yup, that's right.

There are many people, even citizens broke the law, especially speeders, professional theft, reckless driving, racing on road, drive without driver license, forgery, etc.
 
Since these undocumented aliens lack documentation, the simple solution is that they return to their country and apply for documentation. They are here now and are not immigrants because an immigrant is someone who does have permission to enter. Once they have these documentations, they can go to the end of the line with all other immigrants whom are awaiting permission to enter. Those folks in another country that have received their documentation and are doing the right thing by waiting for permission are the people most hurt by the undocumented aliens that came here without permission. Had these undocumented aliens stayed in their country, those awaiting permission to enter woulda get that very permission quicker.

We, the voters, need to demand from our Congress persons that all these undocumented aliens be thrown out because these aliens are tooooooo lazy to get their documentation and enter with permission. The law is already on the book. All that is needed is for the voters to tell these Congresspeople to make sure the laws of the land are enforced or we, the voters, will replace them.
 
Reba said:
However, one illegal act usually leads to another.

After entering the country illegally, the person usually needs identification and and SSN in order to work. So, they get fake ID's and steal someone else's SSN. It also means they lie to officials when their status is questioned. They also have to give false information on official documents for driver's licenses, school admissions, job applications, etc. It's a chain reaction.
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OK, I have a deaf Mexican friend at work. I will ask him about what you said to see if that's true or not.
 
Foxrac said:
Well, I disagree with you, however you rather to make tough at them.

I don't blame on undocumented immigrants, non-criminal than just their immigration status because there are a lot of problem with our law. Why are you and other voters don't find a right lawmakers to fix the flaws in immigration law in few decades ago?
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What flaws?

We need better enforcement of our current laws.
 
rolling7 said:
Since these undocumented aliens lack documentation, the simple solution is that they return to their country and apply for documentation. They are here now and are not immigrants because an immigrant is someone who does have permission to enter. Once they have these documentations, they can go to the end of the line with all other immigrants whom are awaiting permission to enter. Those folks in another country that have received their documentation and are doing the right thing by waiting for permission are the people most hurt by the undocumented aliens that came here without permission. Had these undocumented aliens stayed in their country, those awaiting permission to enter woulda get that very permission quicker.

We, the voters, need to demand from our Congress persons that all these undocumented aliens be thrown out because these aliens are tooooooo lazy to get their documentation and enter with permission. The law is already on the book. All that is needed is for the voters to tell these Congresspeople to make sure the laws of the land are enforced or we, the voters, will replace them.
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US is extremely difficult place to immigrate, that why many people prefer to enter illegally rather wait for years, years, years to receive a visa to immigrate. If you want to live in US so you need visa to enter or you will marked as enter unlawfully.

You support radical immigration reform, that's extreme right wing solution and there are a lot of progressive/moderates will reject. Only solution is WORK BIPARTISANSHIP TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH APPROPRIATE METHOD, not radical (extreme) solution.

I'm disagree with you about undocumented immigrants are too lazy to get documents, however biggest problem is flaws in our law.
 
Reba said:
What flaws?

We need better enforcement of our current laws.
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See #30

USA is extremely difficult place to immigrate AND loopholes too.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, that's right.

There are many people, even citizens broke the law, especially speeders, professional theft, reckless driving, racing on road, drive without driver license, forgery, etc.
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Point?
 
Reba said:
Point?
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My point is citizens broke any laws, so is undocumented immigrants too.

No one is perfect, however they are dumb for sure.
 
Foxrac said:
US is extremely difficult place to immigrate....
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Difficult is not the same as impossible. There are many thousands of legal immigrants who follow the laws to enter the US legally. Is it fair for them to pay their fees, fill out the papers, and wait their turn but let others go in ahead of them? No.
 
Reba said:
Difficult is not the same as impossible. There are many thousands of legal immigrants who follow the laws to enter the US legally. Is it fair for them to pay their fees, fill out the papers, and wait their turn but let others go in ahead of them? No.
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USA is very selective when come to choose immigrants to be admitted, that's not fair to all people who wants to enter and live in.
 
Foxrac said:
My point is citizens broke any laws, so is undocumented immigrants too.

No one is perfect, however they are dumb for sure.
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I won't say that they are dumb but they are lawbreakers.
 
Foxrac said:
USA is very selective when come to choose immigrants to be admitted, that's not fair to all people who wants to enter and live in.
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So just let everyone in without any kind of legal process? Get rid of our national borders? Is that your solution?
 
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