TSA Worker Faces Child Porn Charges

Jiro said:
that site was dated.... Last Updated June 08, 2005

6 years outdated.
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So? They've successfully dumbed down the tests that rates your IQ, called ""cognitive" entrance exams, do you know or understand what that means?

So instead they replaced those tests with a "color coded" tests. WTF is that?

Let me ask you this, why is there a sudden influx of cops making too many mistakes while on the job and moreso, a sudden rise in police brutality cases starting in the 1990s while Clinton was in office??

I'm betting you just looked at the dates and decided it's not worth reading because you deemed it "too old to read" and not worth your time. Just like a 6 year old donut isn't edible enough anymore.

As far as I know, the changes in the tests has not changed.

A man applied to be a cop, when the tests came out that he has an IQ of 125, they considered him to be too smart, they're looking for applicants that has a IQ of 104 or less. The lower the IQ is, the lesser their reasoning skills are as well as quick judgment, etc.

Also another reason for the changes of these tests is to comply with the affirmative action, hiring more minorities to be not only just cops, but also judges, EMTs, Firemen, etc. While this idea may be a noble one, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea. What's important is making sure that applicants who work in a very important position has the right set of mental skills to go with the job, the color of the skin should not be that important, but whether or not that one is not only physically qualified for the job, but also mentally fit as well.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
So? They've successfully dumbed down the tests that rates your IQ, called ""cognitive" entrance exams, do you know or understand what that means?

So instead they replaced those tests with a "color coded" tests. WTF is that?

Let me ask you this, why is there a sudden influx of cops making too many mistakes while on the job and moreso, a sudden rise in police brutality cases starting in the 1990s while Clinton was in office??
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Clinton got too aggressive and unrealistic with his goal. He had a Presidential Directive to increase the number of police officers in short time across the nation. Later on - the herd got weeded out.

yizuman said:
I'm betting you just looked at the dates and decided it's not worth reading because you deemed it "too old to read" and not worth your time. Just like a 6 year old donut isn't edible enough anymore.

As far as I know, the changes in the tests has not changed.
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doesn't mean anything.

yizuman said:
A man applied to be a cop, when the tests came out that he has an IQ of 125, they considered him to be too smart, they're looking for applicants that has a IQ of 104 or less. The lower the IQ is, the lesser their reasoning skills are as well as quick judgment, etc.
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correction - it's because it's very expensive to train the police officer. It was shown that higher the IQ is, the more likely he's going to quit in short time... costing taxpayer hundreds of thousand dollars wasted per officer...

I've very familiar with this story. He sued and lost.

yizuman said:
Also another reason for the changes of these tests is to comply with the affirmative action, hiring more minorities to be not only just cops, but also judges, EMTs, Firemen, etc. While this idea may be a noble one, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea. What's important is making sure that applicants who work in a very important position has the right set of mental skills to go with the job, the color of the skin should not be that important, but whether or not that one is not only physically qualified for the job, but also mentally fit as well.

Yiz
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not entirely.

You're taking it out of context. You're assuming that just about anybody who passed this test means they will become police officers including power-tripping douchebags, dumbass, etc.

The applicant has to undergo extensive psychological screening. Many officers who passed the "dumbed down" tests do not pass the psychological screening. Why in the world would the city/town/state put a huge risk on their reputation and funds for civil lawsuits by hiring dumb officers? Yes a few pricks fell thru the crack and got in but so what? fact of life.

Mind you - while the police officers may not be smart enough to know Socrates, chemistry, physics, etc... the cavalry do come rushing to your 911 with a flying red light. IQ 104 is not that dumb. It's considered as normal-average intelligence.... it's still above most of people's IQ.
 
Correction - it's because it's very expensive to train the police officer. It was shown that higher the IQ is, the more likely he's going to quit in short time... costing taxpayer hundreds of thousand dollars wasted per officer...

I've very familiar with this story. He sued and lost.
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How do they know that? How is it different from training a backwood hick from say, a Harvard or Yale graduate that applies to be an Police Officer? I just can't see their reasoning that a smart police officer would quit simply because they got bored with their job. I just can't fathom that reasoning, it just sounds too simplistic. I'd love to see those statistics.

The way I see it, crooked cops are afraid of smart cops, because if a smart cop wises up to their crooked deeds, they're liable to get fired or worse.

The applicant has to undergo extensive psychological screening. Many officers who passed the "dumbed down" tests do not pass the psychological screening.
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Just explain to me even after they've passed the psychological screening that we wind up still seeing cops on YouTube committing acts of brutality?

Yes, I agree that being a cop is a very high stress job and peeps that wear the badge needs to remain emotionally stable at all times while on the job.

So yes, I agree it's very important that the city as well as the Departments need to curb down on these lawsuits as it is very costly when a cop pulls a dumbass attack.

Nonetheless, explain to me how did these dumbass cops fall through the cracks from these psychological tests and got their badges, guns, as well as the patrol cars?

Yiz
 
Because no test is infallible. And also because people can and do change for the worse for various reasons.
 
Glenn said:
Because no test is infallible. And also because people can and do change for the worse for various reasons.
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I can't argue with that, no system has a perfect system.

But when I start reading or even seeing videos of cops doing bad things to people, I start to wonder why there's so many of them and in such frequency?

There's something wrong with it and I think it's time there needs to be another re-evaluation of how we hire them.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
How do they know that? How is it different from training a backwood hick from say, a Harvard or Yale graduate that applies to be an Police Officer? I just can't see their reasoning that a smart police officer would quit simply because they got bored with their job. I just can't fathom that reasoning, it just sounds too simplistic. I'd love to see those statistics.
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ok - I'm sure you have a reasonable level of intelligence. so let's picture this - how do you feel about doing a dull factory job - a repetitive type everyday for 20 years with crappy pay rate?

Same thing for high-IQ local police officer. There's no actual career growth. You remain a patrol officer for life. You could aim for Detective or Lieutenant ranking but you still will deal with same old shit as regular police officer (just higher pay). That's why college degree is not needed for local police officer.

For high IQ - they can apply for state police or higher echelon of larger police department (typically in major city) such as FBI. It's more of a brain work than brawn job. At least a high-IQ police officer doesn't have to deal with petty cases where people fight or kill each other over extraordinary trivial matter like a pair of shoes. I mean jesus... stabbing each other because he wouldn't share his basketball? Imagine dealing with that dozens of times for years - drunk people, people on crack, dumb people, etc. "Same shit, different assholes." I can't imagine me doing that kind of job that's very destructive to my mental health.

Low-IQ people are more resilient to this kind of thing. They're more capable of numbing themselves to it than high-IQ people. That's why you can easily find many low-IQ people doing janitor duty, factory, McDonald, etc. no problem on minimum wage for years and they ain't going anywhere till they die.

yizuman said:
The way I see it, crooked cops are afraid of smart cops, because if a smart cop wises up to their crooked deeds, they're liable to get fired or worse.
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where are you getting this kind of information from? tv cop shows like The Shield? Miami Vice? The Wire?

yizuman said:
Just explain to me even after they've passed the psychological screening that we wind up still seeing cops on YouTube committing acts of brutality?
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they're human. human = flaw. do you prefer our towns to be enforced by a dozen of Robocop who would enforce every single law including 1 mph above speed limit?

yizuman said:
Yes, I agree that being a cop is a very high stress job and peeps that wear the badge needs to remain emotionally stable at all times while on the job.
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agreed. like I said - they're human. Everybody's got a limit. Everybody's got a breaking point. Shit happens. They are not the law and we have a law to prosecute police officer who went too far. That's all we can do.

yizuman said:
So yes, I agree it's very important that the city as well as the Departments need to curb down on these lawsuits as it is very costly when a cop pulls a dumbass attack.
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right. shit happens, right? but it doesn't happen that often, right? If it does - that's when the Justice Department steps in and takes over.

yizuman said:
Nonetheless, explain to me how did these dumbass cops fall through the cracks from these psychological tests and got their badges, guns, as well as the patrol cars?

Yiz
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how did incompetent Michael Brown get a job as FEMA Director? how did a pedophile become a teacher? how did some VR companies scam millions from government for years? Like what Glenn said - "because no test is infallible... And also because people can and do change for the worse for various reasons."

Maybe the cops originally passed the written tests and psychological tests with a flying color and they're normal hard-working honest folks. and then after years of dealing with ugly, unfathomable things... their moral compass broke.
 
yizuman said:
I can't argue with that, no system has a perfect system.

But when I start reading or even seeing videos of cops doing bad things to people, I start to wonder why there's so many of them and in such frequency?

There's something wrong with it and I think it's time there needs to be another re-evaluation of how we hire them.

Yiz
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so many? in such frequency? do you have a statistic? numbers?

how many bad incidents per year and where?
 
It might be hard to prove that he did it on the job, because evidence is VERY hard to present when it comes to actions. It is more of profiling that SUGGESTS that he might have done it on the job.

In human communication subject that I took in college, the common rule is -- the more frequent you stay with someone or a subject, the more you become that person or part of culture that you attend to. A massive child pornography stored on computer clearly shows a user's true intention.

So a user's true intention become so strong that it becomes into practice. Wherever opportunities avails itself, TSA might be that opportunity?
 
LinuxGold said:
It might be hard to prove that he did it on the job, because evidence is VERY hard to present when it comes to actions. It is more of profiling that SUGGESTS that he might have done it on the job.

In human communication subject that I took in college, the common rule is -- the more frequent you stay with someone or a subject, the more you become that person or part of culture that you attend to. A massive child pornography stored on computer clearly shows a user's true intention.

So a user's true intention become so strong that it becomes into practice. Wherever opportunities avails itself, TSA might be that opportunity?
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:gpost:
 
TXgolfer said:
First of all it says TSA worker.....He could be the guy that checks IDs or the guy that scans checked baggage.....

2nd, yes that is extremely possible. There are many people who have proclivities in fantasy that never act on them. ie. there are men who have gay fantasies online or otherwise who are at the same time disgusted with the thought of acting on those in RL.

3rd, he hasn't been convicted yet. Was his connection secure? Did he open an email or link he shouldn't have? Were there other people in the home?
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Yes, it is possible that this guy would never act on his fantasies in real life...however, his interest and purchasing of child porn is what keeps the demand for images of children going. Somewhere a child is being exploited in the worst possible way to provide this man with the images that he finds necessary to look at in his little "fantasy" world. In my opinion, that makes him directly responsible for the abuse and exploitation, and on the same level as those taking the actual photos or videos.

And as for your third point, did he open an email or link he shouldn't have? Well my goodness, maybe be did....10,000 times.
 
Glenn said:
Because no test is infallible. And also because people can and do change for the worse for various reasons.
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And psychological status changes over time. Especially given some of the traumas that police officers are exposed to on a daily basis.
 
yizuman said:
I can't argue with that, no system has a perfect system.

But when I start reading or even seeing videos of cops doing bad things to people, I start to wonder why there's so many of them and in such frequency?

There's something wrong with it and I think it's time there needs to be another re-evaluation of how we hire them.

Yiz
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I imagine that the abuse of power has been going on forever. It is just that with YouTube and the Internet, it is now easily broadcast to the world.

I do not think it is becoming easier to be a police officer than times in the past. But I also think that the requirements to become one are more stringent.
 
jenniifer said:
Yes, it is possible that this guy would never act on his fantasies in real life...however, his interest and purchasing of child porn is what keeps the demand for images of children going. Somewhere a child is being exploited in the worst possible way to provide this man with the images that he finds necessary to look at in his little "fantasy" world. In my opinion, that makes him directly responsible for the abuse and exploitation, and on the same level as those taking the actual photos or videos.

And as for your third point, did he open an email or link he shouldn't have? Well my goodness, maybe be did....10,000 times.
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It only takes once.....I will let the techies explain how but many child porn outfits use links to invade your computer and then use your computer to host images. I read about this in a case a while back. That is why the police have computer forensic people.....to establish how the images were obtained. That is why I say I will choose to wait for the end of the story before I judge.

Anybody....even you.....might have images on their computer.
 
TXgolfer said:
It only takes once.....I will let the techies explain how but many child porn outfits use links to invade your computer and then use your computer to host images. I read about this in a case a while back. That is why the police have computer forensic people.....to establish how the images were obtained. That is why I say I will choose to wait for the end of the story before I judge.

Anybody....even you.....might have images on their computer.
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Well said. There are "drive by" virus infections, so it certainly seems likely this can occur. I do recall reading this.

I am somewhat sad at the manner in which this suspect has been pronounced guilty before trial. Very troubling.
 
Andrew Cheever lives in my basement in Salem MA. My landlord is his mother and she let him sneak into my basement to live there because his girlfirend kicked him out when she found out about him getting fired from the TSA and why. He uses my utilities in the basement and I am about to sue my landlord for damages. To top this, I have a 6 YO son that lives here and the police wont kick him out. I am also trying to get a restraining order on him. to top it all we are in a school zone and I can see a park with a play yard behind my house. Is there a reason why the Salem Police department wont do anything about this? What right does he have to stay in a basement where I have to do my laundry. Yes, he is sleeping where I do my laundry...You heard that correctly. My hookups are downstairs with my washer and dryer. Can anyone tell me that the system is working in my favor? The police wont kick him out...because she owns the place....
 
Just because the landlord owns the house doesn't give her the right to allow anyone but you to live there. You are the one paying the rent to live there so it should be up to you who can stay there and who cannot.
 
Hog tie his ass, and throw him out and leave him at the nearest police station. I am sure they would be more than happy to help him with housing....
 
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