Tramadol now classified a narcotic, thinking of quitting pain killers

diehardbiker said:
Not everybody gets addict to narcotics. Everybody is different, mattb. U clearly proved urself that u dont have addiction personality. I take opiates for almost 4 years and i hate them. I always wait to the point where pain has been persist for too long or i hit like 8 to 10 for more than 15 min, i take it. I dont like man made dope at all.
U got same problem i have with back, spine is not funny thing to deal with. Pt is a good treatment.
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Actually, it was addictive. Pain killers tend to be addictive for anyone. The trick is to not abuse them, which I only did 3 times in the course of 8 years. All three times it made me super sleepy, so I saw no point in abusing them. But if I forgot a dose or the pharmacy didn't refill in time, I'd get serious jitters and misery as the addiction would jones for a fix. All I could do was to lie in bed, shaking, hot and cold at the same time, until I'd get a tramadol in me.

I've seen the effects of abuse from pain killers from both my mother, and my former stepmother. I'm very much aware of the downward spiral opiates can cause and the severe consequences if kept up. It can completely ruin someone's life if they abuse pain killers, and any relationships to friends, family, significant other, etc.
 
tramadol has always been classed as narcotic synthetic.i on plenty of narcotic pain reliefe,if I want live a life or I have to or curl up in bed just die.
I don't understand people if you knew and felt like that about the medicine then just don't take it your pain must be bearable if you can stop it and do physical exercise...if people want be stoic that for them to decide...Some of us so called weak people need pain reliefe......dihydrocodine and servarol what I take and intend to until I need stronger
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I know someone that was in a lot of pain and nothing helped until she had
acupuncture treatments . It helped her so much she became an acupuncturist .



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/sports/football/30acupuncture.html?_r=0

Football players get acupuncture treatments too for injuries . Back pain is awful , hope you feel better soon.
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I tried acupuncture but afterwards when I went to take a leak, I sprung 100 leaks all over. :eek3:

Seriously, though, I was a bit uncomfortable with it. I was 18 or 19 at the time when I was pushed into trying it. I was really self-conscious about my body and my skin condition. Now that I'm older I don't think I'd be as self-conscious, but back then I definitely was.

I do understand the principles of how it works and I'm not one of those who think it's a bunch of hocus pocus fakery. I'm pretty sure Medicaid offers it as an alternative option to pain relief, but that was back when I was living in Plant City (near Tampa), and there are no such options nearby where I'm at now.
 
MattB said:
Yikes, that does sound painful on the shoulder. Dogs can be unpredictable at times. I nearly had a fall when I was walking two lapdogs and a loose came up wanting to fight. I had to pick up both dogs and put them under both arms and this dog was jumping up on my leg trying to get at the other two dogs while I walked fast back towards the house. Nearly fell multiple times until I growled loud at the dog which, somehow, scared him back a bit.

The 800mg is a prescription, although you could take 800mg from the ibuprofen bought at stores. Oddly, though, I've found the stuff from the stores doesn't do as well as the prescription. Which doesn't seem right, because I thought all ibuprofen are the same, just the dosage could be different.

Ibuprofen doesn't seem to affect my stomach, but I do snack a lot during the course of the day, so that may have something to do with it.
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I think it may be a matter of how the inactive ingredients affect absorbing the active ingredients on an individual basis. I know many years ago my mother and I preferred different brands of generic Tylenol for headache and misc. aches and pains, not the major pain that most of you are referring to in this thread. But . . . couldn't that be the difference between the prescription and OTC versions and makes the same mg of the two sources work differently for you?
 
aslong as what ever you take do the job,everything got side effects you just got weigh up which is worse
 
MattB said:
I tried acupuncture but afterwards when I went to take a leak, I sprung 100 leaks all over. :eek3:

Seriously, though, I was a bit uncomfortable with it. I was 18 or 19 at the time when I was pushed into trying it. I was really self-conscious about my body and my skin condition. Now that I'm older I don't think I'd be as self-conscious, but back then I definitely was.

I do understand the principles of how it works and I'm not one of those who think it's a bunch of hocus pocus fakery. I'm pretty sure Medicaid offers it as an alternative option to pain relief, but that was back when I was living in Plant City (near Tampa), and there are no such options nearby where I'm at now.
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You should had gone outside to water the lawn ! LOL! I don't think Medicaid
will cover it my sister is an acupuncturist and she been others acupuncturists been trying to get insurance companies to cover it. I think there so doctors trying to stop this b/c they would lose $$$ . It really worked , I was not able to sleep and it helped me , there is no side affect like sleeping pills . If you do go be sure ask if your insurance will cover it . I know
they do not in my state . I tried to get it cove and was not able to
 
MattB said:
I was prescribed the med for my lower back pain which I've been experiencing since a soccer accident in high school. They said it was a non-narcotic and that I won't go through withdrawals or any other similar side effects. Boy, were they wrong. That stuff had a monster withdrawal symptoms. If I forgot to take one, or if I developed a tolerance (which I did over the years), I'd wake up dizzy, feeling absolutely miserable, and have no energy to do anything but lie in bed. There were a few times in the past where the pharmacy wouldn't have the meds ready and I'd be completely out. It's crazy how bad the withdrawals can
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Same thing happen to me, except the pill was Lortab, I have bad disc in my back. I had to get on Suboxone because I thought the withdrawals were going to kill me. I noticed while taking Suboxone, that my back didn't hurt as much. After two years of Suboxone, the doctor said I didn't need it anymore. I told the doc I gotta have something for pain, and she gave me a patch that you wear called Butrans. It like Suboxone, but without an opiate blocker in it. You change the patch once a week. It works. It comes in different micrograms. Ask your Doc about Butrans patch, as with any meds, you will have to step down dosage if you don't want to take it anymore. But since it's a patch, it can't really be abused,since you just wear it on your arm. I hope all works out for you. And I wouldn't wish withdrawal on my worst enemy!
 
BeckiGreen said:
Same thing happen to me, except the pill was Lortab, I have bad disc in my back. I had to get on Suboxone because I thought the withdrawals were going to kill me. I noticed while taking Suboxone, that my back didn't hurt as much. After two years of Suboxone, the doctor said I didn't need it anymore. I told the doc I gotta have something for pain, and she gave me a patch that you wear called Butrans. It like Suboxone, but without an opiate blocker in it. You change the patch once a week. It works. It comes in different micrograms. Ask your Doc about Butrans patch, as with any meds, you will have to step down dosage if you don't want to take it anymore. But since it's a patch, it can't really be abused,since you just wear it on your arm. I hope all works out for you. And I wouldn't wish withdrawal on my worst enemy!
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Thanks for sharing that, and I'll definitely keep it in mind. If physical therapy doesn't work out, or I can't deal with the pain, I'll ask the doc about Butrans. I'm glad there's a possible fall-back option, because it seemed that tramadol was the only option based on what I was told. They weren't willing to go with anything stronger like hydrocodone which I agree with.
 
There is a huge difference between "need" and "addicted". People with seizures "need" their medication and will have withdrawal issues if they suddenly stop taking them. Same as diabetics, high blood pressure, thyroid and especially antidepressants. Some of the worst reported cases of withdrawal was from the medication Wellbutrin. Obviously this does not mean people should stop taking antidepressants because they fear they might get addicted.

Every person is different. Every person deals with pain differently. Taking needed pain medication does not make one weak. IMO For most severe chronic pain patients it comes down to a quality of life decision. You can not compare ones pain with another. Doing so will make people feel guilty or make them feel like their weak for taking pain meds. If you follow your doctors orders and see them at scheduled appointments you are not doing anything wrong.

Most severe chronic pain patients have tried everything else. PT, acupuncture, exercise, diet etc. When all that fails pain medication may be the only choice.
 
Luckily, I have a very high tolerance to pain. And avoid pills like the plague, due to seeing so many people addicted to them. I agree, tho, in some cases, pain pills are the only relief some people can get.

I was referred to Pain Management, (due to multiple ear surgeries)...and my doctor was reluctant to give me any pain meds...I never went, tho., and just dealt with it.
 
I was not able to type well since I have near death trauma accident. I could've killed as of August 1st, I done share story somewhere here and apparently nobody pay attention or think I'm bs.

What I am saying is that calling it addictive, it does not mean everybody WILL get addicted, usually less than 20% will get hooked, while the rest of 80% don't get addicted. Whats important is being honest with doctor, and doctor can determine if your pattern is going to lead to addictive behavior. I really really highly doubt you will get addicted on this shit, because you are fully aware of it, and take it sparingly, meaning if you take when it is really necessary but not taking when you don't have pain. If you take it even if there is little or no pain then you got problem.

I have bunch of opiates with me for 4 years, I rather smoke or eat cannabis to manage my pain, my stress induct the pain on me, so killing stress help me relieve pain. Sometimes cannabis didn't take my pain away within time frame, I then took opiates.

Right now, I am doubling my dosage time intervals because I have new pain, and that was caused by 3/4 ton of trunk fell and hit my back, fractured plenty of bones including ribs, spine. Collar bone is fine, thank god! Since I double dosage, it isn't anywhere near habitual or addiction. I am more scare of taking too much opiates due to side effect.... ruin liver and kidney. I don't want ruin my kidney and liver, Cannabis don't have these side effect.

Estimate weight of trunk as 3/4 ton, it is about 12 feet long 20 inches diameter.

I am far, far thankful for today medical technology, if it were 10 years ago, I don't want hear doctor comment at all, which would be, "There isn't much we can do, there are chances you will stay in bed for the rest of life". But that day, when doctor sees how serious my spine damage was, yes nerve popped out from spinal cord, my doctor said "Don't worry, we have top surgeon around, and we can fix it, no problem". The attitude from surgeon was like he knows what he is doing and showed ultimate confidence! He also told me I have only two weeks of window, otherwise it will be like 10 years ago. So I took the 5th surgery knowing I will be OK!

Surgery proved successfully, I am now able to manage pain little better and able to walk, get up, sleep, etc even eating with 4 front tooth missing. Call me vampire if you will.

So, anyone of you face spinal injury anytime in future. Do NOT move yourself, let these expert deals with you, and my recommendation is make decision on surgery FAST! You will be happy you did. And recommended get "Teaching surgeon" Nobody gets better surgeon that is teaching his/her students on spine surgery, I see the difference! Its nice to have a specialist, but the problem is sometimes complication arisen specialist may not have the right skill to fix it, teaching surgeon MUST KNOW how to fix something, like my last surgeon that discovered how poorly job first surgeon did and fixed for me.

I like answer question though PM, but my PM box is almost full. So bear with me.

MattB said:
Actually, it was addictive. Pain killers tend to be addictive for anyone. The trick is to not abuse them, which I only did 3 times in the course of 8 years. All three times it made me super sleepy, so I saw no point in abusing them. But if I forgot a dose or the pharmacy didn't refill in time, I'd get serious jitters and misery as the addiction would jones for a fix. All I could do was to lie in bed, shaking, hot and cold at the same time, until I'd get a tramadol in me.

I've seen the effects of abuse from pain killers from both my mother, and my former stepmother. I'm very much aware of the downward spiral opiates can cause and the severe consequences if kept up. It can completely ruin someone's life if they abuse pain killers, and any relationships to friends, family, significant other, etc.
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There are several kinds of pain, you may have high tolerance with certain pain, but there might be a pain that you never experience and you may not have any tolerance. For example, I don't have tolerance with my neck pain, that kind damn pain... drives me nuts, and at the same tree fell on my back broke a spine bone right below my neck, its very painful but I was able to deal with it better than the neck pain! I was supposed to take opiates for my back pain every 4-6 hours, I went between 8 to 16 hours apart, sometimes I forget take opiates when I had pain. Weird!

rockin'robin said:
Luckily, I have a very high tolerance to pain. And avoid pills like the plague, due to seeing so many people addicted to them. I agree, tho, in some cases, pain pills are the only relief some people can get.

I was referred to Pain Management, (due to multiple ear surgeries)...and my doctor was reluctant to give me any pain meds...I never went, tho., and just dealt with it.
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Oh sythenic cannabis? Too dangerous, I tried twice and its not worth shit. Too scary to smoke them natural cannabis has no known side effect. If it is, I would know by now already.
 
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