Titanic survivor sells mementos to pay for care

shel90 said:
Like I said...it is all speculation. I have read up on reports about the Titanic and the aftermath...there were conflicting stories about the victims being compensated well. Some even turned them down since they felt that a life is priceless. Most likely, they got under-compensated.
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Yeah, it's under compensated.
 
damn, I don't think she will get 5,200. I think she will get more than that amount cause these precious things are very rare and a lot of people who is interested in the titanic schitt can get ahold of it, i'd like to find out how much was reached if it was sold in the near future. :eek3:
 
ah thats sad, she's a lovely lady too, my wife spent a day with her, thanks for pointing this out I hadn't heard it before
 
You would think that with England's oh-so-wonderful healthcare system this lady would be taken care of for life. I guess Michael Moore's documentary had some inaccuracies, after all.
 
Are they ever going to do anything about the ship being under water? Would be nice if they can pull it out and put it in a huge museum.
 
Wow Interesting .. Hope she finds a way get money :(
 
Mayberries said:
You would think that with England's oh-so-wonderful healthcare system this lady would be taken care of for life. I guess Michael Moore's documentary had some inaccuracies, after all.
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it's "british" healthcare, not english as you incorrectly said, there are 4 countries within the UK all get healthcare, not just england.
and it's a hell of alot better than US where the poor can't afford care.
but it doesnt stretch to care homes, there are limited spaces available, and it costs the earth to go to a private one. I assume thats what the probelm with her is, it's the only thing the health board doesnt give you free.
but had she went for a community care hiome(not so spoiled) she wouldnt have had to pay.
but that would ahve all depended on how long she has lived here for, we shouldnt have to shell out for people who move abroad then come home in retirement without payign any taxes to cover health care through the years.
but i hope she comes good, i didnt meet her but my wife said she's lovely.
 
Macian said:
it's "british" healthcare, not english as you incorrectly said, there are 4 countries within the UK all get healthcare, not just england.
and it's a hell of alot better than US where the poor can't afford care.
but it doesnt stretch to care homes, there are limited spaces available, and it costs the earth to go to a private one. I assume thats what the probelm with her is, it's the only thing the health board doesnt give you free.
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a hell lot better than USA? So... what about this unfortunate Titanic survivor? How is that a hell lot better? Something tells me that this country doesn't take care of its own hero/survivor.

epic fail, son
 
Jiro said:
a hell lot better than USA? So... what about this unfortunate Titanic survivor? How is that a hell lot better? Something tells me that this country doesn't take care of its own hero/survivor.

epic fail, son
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she lived in the states for years, she could have chosen a state run home, but she chose private, which is just that, you need to pay for that yourself, it ws her choice, and like i added to my last post i have no idea how long she stayed here, she lived in the US for years, you need to pay your taxes in the uk, why shoudl we pay for people(if thats the case) who decide to come back for retirement? they wouldnt have had paid a penny in taxes to help run the free health treatment.
 
ps if you open the link for the newspaper article it clearly states that, no i didnt either lol, but whats the point of this post now i have read it, lol the article clearly explains why she has run out of cash, she chose the luxury option, she wasn't left high and dry by the health board.
 
She said rooms at the nursing home cost between $1,000 and $1,550 a week, depending on the level of care the resident needs, but declined to discuss Dean's situation, saying it was a private matter.

Although Britain has a free health care system, private providers offer more comprehensive services for a fee. In the case of nursing homes, state-run facilities are available and cost much less than private ones. But they are more spartan and offer fewer amenities, such as shared rooms and no private TVs.

Local authorities often pay a portion of the costs of private nursing home care based on an individual's assets; anyone with more than $39,000 in assets has to pay their own fees.
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all these insanely high taxes and still have "spartan" standard? nice... nice.... another epic fail.
 
Macian said:
it's "british" healthcare, not english as you incorrectly said, there are 4 countries within the UK all get healthcare, not just england.
and it's a hell of alot better than US where the poor can't afford care.
but it doesnt stretch to care homes, there are limited spaces available, and it costs the earth to go to a private one. I assume thats what the probelm with her is, it's the only thing the health board doesnt give you free.
but had she went for a community care hiome(not so spoiled) she wouldnt have had to pay.
but that would ahve all depended on how long she has lived here for, we shouldnt have to shell out for people who move abroad then come home in retirement without payign any taxes to cover health care through the years.
but i hope she comes good, i didnt meet her but my wife said she's lovely.
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If the UK healthcare is better then why is your dental care one of the worst in the world? :D
 
Byrdie714 said:
If the UK healthcare is better then why is your dental care one of the worst in the world? :D
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no idea i've no teef:lol:,

I didnt know it was, but yes i did know it was a problem here, it was a government policy to tighten up on dentists charges to the national health, basicaly the dentists said f*** it then we wont do national health then, only private, but that was done under a conservative governemt(capatilists for ye) which the socialist labour government have been trying to turn around, with varying degrees of success.
very interesting though, dont you have to pay for your dental health over there? i have no idea how other countries work in this regard
 
Jiro said:
all these insanely high taxes and still have "spartan" standard? nice... nice.... another epic fail.
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no idea, and worry where the dollar came into it, we dont use nor have a clue about the dollar, other than you an get more than one for the pound:lol:
so whys she using the dollar as an example? beats me
 
Last survivor of the Titanic dies, aged 97

Millvina Dean was just over two months old when vessel hit an iceberg

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Britain's Millvina Dean, 90, opens the Titanic Voices Exhibition at the Maritime Museum in Southampton, in 2002. Dean, the last survivor of the sinking of the Titanic, died Sunday. She was 97.

LONDON - Millvina Dean, who as a baby was wrapped in a sack and lowered into a lifeboat in the frigid North Atlantic, died Sunday, having been the last survivor of 1912 sinking of the RMS Titanic.

She was 97 years old, and she died where she had lived — in Southampton, England, the city her family had tried to leave behind when it took the ship's ill-fated maiden voyage, bound for America.

She died in her sleep early Sunday, her friend Gunter Babler told the Associated Press. It was the 98th anniversary of the launch of the ship that was billed as "practically unsinkable.

Babler said Dean's longtime companion, Bruno Nordmanis, called him in Switzerland to say staff at Woodlands Ridge Nursing Home in Southampton discovered Dean in her room Sunday morning. He said she had been hospitalized with pneumonia last week but she had recovered and returned to the home.

A staff nurse at the nursing home said late Sunday that no one would comment until administrators came on duty Monday morning.

Ship sank in under three hours

Dean just over 2 months old when the Titanic hit an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912. The ship sank in less than three hours.

Dean was one of 706 people — mostly women and children — who survived. Her father was among the 1,517 who died.

Babler, who is head of the Switzerland Titanic Society, said Dean was a "very good friend of very many years."

"I met her through the Titanic society but she became a friend and I went to see very every month or so," he said.

The pride of the White Star line, the Titanic had a mahogany-paneled smoking room, a swimming pool and a squash court. But it did not have enough lifeboats for all of its 2,200 passengers and crew.

Dean's family were steerage passengers setting out from the English port of Southampton for a new life in the United States. Her father had sold his pub and hoped to open a tobacconists' shop in Kansas City, Missouri, where his wife had relatives.

Initially scheduled to travel on another ship, the family was transferred to the Titanic because of a coal strike. Four days out of port and about 600 kilometers (380 miles) southeast of Newfoundland, the ship hit an iceberg. The impact buckled the Titanic's hull and sent sea water pouring into six of its supposedly watertight compartments.Dean just over 2 months old when the Titanic hit an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912. The ship sank in less than three hours.

Dean was one of 706 people — mostly women and children — who survived. Her father was among the 1,517 who died.

Babler, who is head of the Switzerland Titanic Society, said Dean was a "very good friend of very many years."

"I met her through the Titanic society but she became a friend and I went to see very every month or so," he said.

The pride of the White Star line, the Titanic had a mahogany-paneled smoking room, a swimming pool and a squash court. But it did not have enough lifeboats for all of its 2,200 passengers and crew.

Dean's family were steerage passengers setting out from the English port of Southampton for a new life in the United States. Her father had sold his pub and hoped to open a tobacconists' shop in Kansas City, Missouri, where his wife had relatives.

Initially scheduled to travel on another ship, the family was transferred to the Titanic because of a coal strike. Four days out of port and about 600 kilometers (380 miles) southeast of Newfoundland, the ship hit an iceberg. The impact buckled the Titanic's hull and sent sea water pouring into six of its supposedly watertight compartments.

Credits her survival to her father

Dean said her father's quick actions saved his family. He felt the ship scrape the iceberg and hustled the family out of its third-class quarters and toward the lifeboat that would take them to safety. "That's partly what saved us — because he was so quick. Some people thought the ship was unsinkable," Dean told the British Broadcasting Corp. in 1998.

Wrapped in a sack against the Atlantic chill, Dean was lowered into a lifeboat. Her 2-year-old brother Bertram and her mother Georgette also survived.

"She said goodbye to my father and he said he'd be along later," Dean said in 2002. "I was put into lifeboat 13. It was a bitterly cold night and eventually we were picked up by the Carpathia."

Learned later of her Titanic experience

The family was taken to New York, then returned to England with other survivors aboard the rescue ship Adriatic. Dean did not know she had been aboard the Titanic until she was 8 years old, when her mother, about to remarry, told her about her father's death. Her mother, always reticent about the tragedy, died in 1975 at age 95.

Born in London on Feb. 2, 1912, Elizabeth Gladys "Millvina" Dean spent most of her life in the English seaside town of Southampton, Titanic's home port. She never married, and worked as a secretary, retiring in 1972 from an engineering firm.

She moved into a nursing home after breaking her hip about three years ago. She had to sell several Titanic mementoes to raise funds, prompting her friends to set up a fund to subsidize her nursing home fees. Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet, the stars of the film "Titanic," pledged their support to the fund last month.

For most of her life Dean had no contact with Titanic enthusiasts and rarely spoke about the disaster. Dean said she had seen the 1958 film "A Night to Remember" with other survivors, but found it so upsetting that she declined to watch any other attempts to put the disaster on celluloid, including the 1997 blockbuster "Titanic."

She began to take part in Titanic-related activities in the 1980s, after the discovery of the ship's wreck in 1985 sparked renewed interest in the disaster. At a memorial service in England, Dean met a group of American Titanic enthusiasts who invited her to a meeting in the U.S.

Attended Titanic conventions
She visited Belfast to see where the ship was built, attended Titanic conventions around the world — where she was mobbed by autograph seekers — and participated in radio and television documentaries about the sinking.

Charles Haas, president of the New-Jersey based Titanic International Society, said Dean was happy to talk to children about the Titanic. "She had a soft spot for children," he said. "I remember watching was little tiny children came over clutching pieces of paper for her to sign. She was very good with them, very warm."

In 1997, Dean crossed the Atlantic by boat for the first time, on the QEII luxury liner, and finally visited Kansas City, declaring it "so lovely I could stay here five years." She was active well into her 90s, but missed the commemoration of the 95th anniversary of the disaster in 2007 after breaking her hip.

Dean had no memories of the sinking and said she preferred it that way. "I wouldn't want to remember, really," she told The Associated Press in 1997. She opposed attempts to raise the wreck 4,000 meters (13,000 feet) from the sea bed.

"I don't want them to raise it, I think the other survivors would say exactly the same," she said in 1997. "That would be horrible."

The last survivor with memories of the sinking — and the last American survivor — was Lillian Asplund, who was 5 at the time. She died in May 2006 at the age of 99. The second-last survivor, Barbara Joyce West Dainton of Truro, England, died in October 2007 aged 96.
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Last survivor of the Titanic dies, aged 97

RIP Millvina and she sure live her life to the fullest. :aw:
 
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