Time Travel

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What's your theory on time travel? There are a lot of theories and I want to hear yours. Share your opinions here and tell why you said it.
 
Here are some theories that I've read/heard about:
  • Current changes go into effect immediately. For instance, if someone went back in time and killed a guy who's the father of someone in the present... that someone in the present would instantly disappear.
  • Current changes go into effect by a fade. For instance, if someone went back in time and killed a guy who's the father of someone in the present... that someone in the present would fade away.
  • Instead of changes happening to individuals on the spot, the environment will change instead. For instance, you kill a guy. He's supposed to be getting married in the future. In the present, the house he's supposed to be in changes by paint, grass, etc... and a different family appears in its place or it's empty, depending on the occurences.
  • Time travel can only be done forward, not backwards. If done backwards, it will "cancel" an occurence and now allow what happened in the future to occur. For instance, I go back in time and meet this guy. Because of that, things change and the time machine or I don't make the trip in the present. Suppose I'm in the present and decide to go in the future. Fifty years in the future, I meet this gal and we have dinner. I then decide to go back and see what her past was like so I go back twenty years to check her out. After going back twenty years, I run into the father of this gal and say, "hi" to him. Because of this, he misses his opportunity to meet this woman that he's supposed to marry. Since he never marries her, that gal never exists. Since she doesn't exist, I never meet her in the future. Since I never meet her in the future, I have no reason to be in this time meeting her father.
There are many theories that I've read/heard everywhere. Anyone else have any other theories?
 
I believe that going backwards in time is impossible. The past no longer exists—there is nothing to go to. Which is good, because we don’t have to fret about those stupid ‘what if you went back in time and killed your grandfather’ paradoxes. As for going forwards in time, yes—that is obviously possible. We’re doing it right now. But when we talk about time travel, we’re always referring to traveling into the future at an accelerated rate. In other words, moving into the future at a rate faster than we normally experience. This is possible. Both of Einstein’s theories of relativity, the special and the general, predicted that time slows down for an object under two circumstances: when it has undergone acceleration, and when it is subjected to a gravitational field. Einstein’s predictions were proven true in the early 1970’s using atomic clocks traveling in hypersonic aircraft.

Since we can’t subject a human to a gravitational field exceeding four or five g’s for any extended period of time, the only way for humans to travel into the future is to subject them to prolonged acceleration. This can only be achieved with a spaceship traveling at a high velocity. This will be one of the major issues confronting manned interstellar spaceflight, if it ever does occur. Passengers on board interstellar spacecraft will return to Earth to find that an extended period of time has passed, and that everything that they knew is long gone. If sufficiently high velocities could be achieved, explorers traveling to even the nearest star could come back to Earth to find that 100 years had elapsed, while from their perspective they were only gone for a few weeks. It is even possible that the first interstellar mission will arrive at their destination only to find that a human colony has already been established there, because so much time has elapsed on Earth since they left that subsequent technology has enabled other explorers to reach that solar system ahead of them.
 
I have a question. - What if a human being travels to the future to the point that he is already dead? So would he be re-directed into heaven instead of space?
 
tekkmortal said:
I have a question. - What if a human being travels to the future to the point that he is already dead? So would he be re-directed into heaven instead of space?
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What do you mean by that? If you're time traveling, your physical self is not in the present any more.

Suppose I jump in a time machine today. You see me get in the machine and the machine disappear with me on it. I no longer exist. I appear 20 years later. That means I've been gone for 20 years but my current age for myself is still the same since I simply went ahead into the future. However, you would age 20 years since you've been waiting for me to reappear again.
 
Levonian said:
If sufficiently high velocities could be achieved, explorers traveling to even the nearest star could come back to Earth to find that 100 years had elapsed, while from their perspective they were only gone for a few weeks.
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Uh, upon renewed inspection, I realized that I had consumed way too many brewsky’s when I wrote this. It would not be possible for 100 years to elapse on Earth while a ship makes a round trip to the nearest star. The most time that could elapse is 8.52 years—the amount of time it takes light to make to make the same trip. For 100 years to elapse on Earth, the ship would have to make a round trip to a star that is at least 50 light years away.
 
Levonian said:
Uh, upon renewed inspection, I realized that I had consumed way too many brewsky’s when I wrote this. It would not be possible for 100 years to elapse on Earth while a ship makes a round trip to the nearest star. The most time that could elapse is 8.52 years—the amount of time it takes light to make to make the same trip. For 100 years to elapse on Earth, the ship would have to make a round trip to a star that is at least 50 light years away.
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It's okay, I'm sure we get the concept. If you like anime, I suggest you watch Gunbuster. It's a great anime using the concept of light speed travel. It's about a couple of high school girls who go to war in space in mechs (big robots) against other aliens... while traveling at the speed of light.
 
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This is what I am talking about.
 
it would be nice if there is Time Machine with hologram. That allow people (in past) will not see us. And we will not able to touch anything but see the past.

It make much safe, eh?

Almost like Quantum Leap. I hope for all shows in DVD. *praying*
 
tekkmortal said:
I had seen Robotech but haven't seen Gunbuster.
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Gunbuster is an interesting and good movie. It's a 3-part series. There's one part in the movie when they end up chasing a phantom space ship. In order to catch up with the ship, they had to travel faster than the speed of light. However, they clarified that they could only do it with a specific time limit. Since this gal went beyond the time limit by a minute or two, Earth aged 3 months.
 
Imagine being in a 3D bubble. You see a railroad through it. You definitely can see the stops anywhere on this railroad, and you can see a train chug on forward. What if you could step into any of these stops, back, present and future, regardless of where the train is? Let's say that the train is the incarnated human being currently living in the moment, going on forward and seeing only the present (assuming he/she doesnt have prophetic abilities of seeing the future, or seeing the past).

In theory, it is a matter of perception with time and space rather than using the aid of technology (Bubble Gum anime type and all). Remember that old film with Christopher Reeves and Jean Seymour? Chris' character lied on his bed and went into hyponsis, and suddenly found himself in 1800's.
 
I wish I could be likely "Quantum Leap", and "Timetrax" and "Viper"

Simlair like Back to the Future..

Preferable: Transporter warp jumping another years depend where you want to go.. but not likely Stargate's style.

If suppose Im in future likely er um... 2100's I would be (dead) ofcourse but what look like the future, um, may be might have excellent techogloies future (sp) quite powerful ones. Would be nice 4 me to have like this but... I wish I'm really immortal forever.. Oh well.. :::::sigh::::: Wish love to seeing my own future generation families come from my past families.
 
Bullym0m said:
I wish I could be likely "Quantum Leap", and "Timetrax" and "Viper"

Simlair like Back to the Future..

Preferable: Transporter warp jumping another years depend where you want to go.. but not likely Stargate's style.

If suppose Im in future likely er um... 2100's I would be (dead) ofcourse but what look like the future, um, may be might have excellent techogloies future (sp) quite powerful ones. Would be nice 4 me to have like this but... I wish I'm really immortal forever.. Oh well.. :::::sigh::::: Wish love to seeing my own future generation families come from my past families.
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Umm... Viper? I don't remember any time travel being done in that movie. :dunno:
 
Whenever the time travel becomes possible, should we travel back in time to stop some horrible events such as Holocaust, wars, rise of evil powers like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Pol Pot and much more?

Should we travel time to witness and do nothing with those horrible events? Or should we correct those historical events?

We could stop birth of those evil dictators... We could tell the Miami Hurricanes defense to look for Gerald Phelan who caught a winning TD Hail Mary pass from Doug Flutie instead of Flutie's favorite receiver... We could witness the birth of United States of America and the Signing of Declaration of Independence filled with pride and joy... Al Gore and George Bush could be warned of the screw-up in the 2000 Presidential Election one night before it took place... We could tell British sniper Major Patrick Ferguson to fire and kill George Washington instead of dismounting his sniper position. There are so many historical events that we could alter.

Should we travel time to alert the already written history books?
 
KingCobra said:
Whenever the time travel becomes possible, should we travel back in time to stop some horrible events such as Holocaust, wars, rise of evil powers like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Pol Pot and much more?

Should we travel time to witness and do nothing with those horrible events? Or should we correct those historical events?

We could stop birth of those evil dictators... We could tell the Miami Hurricanes defense to look for Gerald Phelan who caught a winning TD Hail Mary pass from Doug Flutie instead of Flutie's favorite receiver... We could witness the birth of United States of America and the Signing of Declaration of Independence filled with pride and joy... Al Gore and George Bush could be warned of the screw-up in the 2000 Presidential Election one night before it took place... We could tell British sniper Major Patrick Ferguson to fire and kill George Washington instead of dismounting his sniper position. There are so many historical events that we could alter.

Should we travel time to alert the already written history books?
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We shouldn't mess with history. Once it happens, it happens. We're better off leaving it alone.

Technically, going to the past will change the present instantly. One mistake and we could give the Nazis an advantage, which would then allow the Nazis to still be running today. Here's another example... know the Great Black Out in New York City many years ago? No, I'm not referring to the most recent one from during the summer. Anyway, because of that... there was a baby boom a year later. What happened was that during the black out, people had nothing to do... except have sex in the dark. That's what caused the great baby boom. Now, I go back in time and prevent that black out from happening. When that happens, people don't have any reason to suddenly have sex with each other. Without that, we have no baby boom. Without the baby boom, hundreds of thousands of people will not exist. Since those people won't exist, the people they influenced might change as well. As a result, millions of people will be affected.

That's why we should not fuck with history and only deal with the present.
 
Bullym0m said:
I wish I could be likely "Quantum Leap", and "Timetrax" and "Viper"

Simlair like Back to the Future..

Preferable: Transporter warp jumping another years depend where you want to go.. but not likely Stargate's style.

If suppose Im in future likely er um... 2100's I would be (dead) ofcourse but what look like the future, um, may be might have excellent techogloies future (sp) quite powerful ones. Would be nice 4 me to have like this but... I wish I'm really immortal forever.. Oh well.. :::::sigh::::: Wish love to seeing my own future generation families come from my past families.
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I only know of sci-fiction tv show is "Viper" who the man who couldn't remember who he was actually bad man, yet change his heart to be good cop and drive viper that can change from red regular Dodge Viper into super viper. :dunno:

That's ain't time-machine involved.
 
VamPyroX said:
We shouldn't mess with history. Once it happens, it happens. We're better off leaving it alone.

Technically, going to the past will change the present instantly. One mistake and we could give the Nazis an advantage, which would then allow the Nazis to still be running today. Here's another example... know the Great Black Out in New York City many years ago? No, I'm not referring to the most recent one from during the summer. Anyway, because of that... there was a baby boom a year later. What happened was that during the black out, people had nothing to do... except have sex in the dark. That's what caused the great baby boom. Now, I go back in time and prevent that black out from happening. When that happens, people don't have any reason to suddenly have sex with each other. Without that, we have no baby boom. Without the baby boom, hundreds of thousands of people will not exist. Since those people won't exist, the people they influenced might change as well. As a result, millions of people will be affected.

That's why we should not fuck with history and only deal with the present.
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I think it would be okay to stop anything only in few years... like we would like to stop the airplanes from wreck the WTC? Theory, that doesn't make bigger different, huh?
 
illustrator said:
I think it would be okay to stop anything only in few years... like we would like to stop the airplanes from wreck the WTC? Theory, that doesn't make bigger different, huh?
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Yes, it would make a big difference. For instance, I probably wouldn't be in this room. Here are some possible changes that may take effect: We prevent the WTC incident from happening. Since no one died, a lot of students at RIT have nothing to fear or worry about and stay in school. (A lot of students left school in mourning.) Since students are not leaving, RIT will accept fewer students. Since there are more students staying, they have better chances of choosing their place to live for the next year. Since I am considered 4th/5th year student, I am given almost-last priority to choosing where to live. Because of all of this, I don't get my room and end up off campus in a hotel. From that hotel, my time management might be different and I wouldn't be on AllDeaf the same way I am now. This post would also disappear as well. Same goes for your post... since it never happened. Plus, decide to time travel because of something. If that something doesn't happen, then we have no reason to time travel... therefore, what we just did cancels ourselves out.
 
VamPyroX said:
From that hotel, my time management might be different and I wouldn't be on AllDeaf the same way I am now. This post would also disappear as well. Same goes for your post... since it never happened.
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Well, that’s a very novel approach to deleting your own posts. We’ll have to keep that in mind if we ever post nude pictures of ourselves after drinking 15 Molson’s and some sadistic mod locks out our account.

But seriously, how do you propose that it’s even possible to go back in time? Even if you don’t change anything, and just go back as a hands off observer, where are you? If you went back in time, you can’t deny that you’re in a real, tangible place. Everything in the universe—every last star, planet, and speck of dust is in the same place it was back then. What happened to the future? Have you erased it and now it’s gone? Or does it exist somewhere else? If so, where is this ‘somewhere else’? Let’s say you get bored one day and hop into your time machine. You go back ten years, look around for about an hour, and get back in and go back another ten years. Then you do this a few more times. Where are all these places? Have you recreated the entire universe in several different locations? Or, if you have erased the future, how can you be where you are? The future is gone—therefore the act of you getting in the time machine never occurred.

There might be a way to observe the past, however. Remember that you don’t see an event until the light from the event reaches your eyes. So let’s say you want to witness JFK’s assassination. The light from that event is right now reaching a point forty light years away from Earth. At high warp, you could get out to that point in a few hours. You could then record the event, and recreate it on the holodeck. You could also use this technique to blackmail the mod into unlocking your account. As soon as your hangover goes away, you hightail yourself out to a point a few light days away from Earth, and you use infrared imaging to photograph him tossing off in the bathtub. :devil:
 
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