Time to STOP! Enough is Enough!

DefMATRIXense said:
Well, she is stupid enough to stay at the safe house instead report it to the police or whatever it is.
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A comment like that doesn't even deserve a reply.:roll:

But just to point out the error of your thinking: a safe house is necessary because the police cannot protect her 24/7. And, 911 was called during the incident. The police got there after she was already dead.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Aww look at that. That is so cute. S/he has so much faith in the police's power to stop the man's threats towards the wife. Isn't that darling?
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^^ just to clarify, I was being sarcastic. I better use :roll: more often.... but in real life, I'm not much of an eye roller! :)
 
dreama said:
Nobody gets stoned for adultery.
You can go to school without running the risk of someone aiming acid at your face.
You don't have to give birth to 6 kids or more.
You are free to leave the house when you want to.
You can choose who you marry. You don't get forced to marry some dirty old man at the age of 8.
If you have a daughter nobody is going to make a big deal out of it because they want a son.
You have the freedom to wear exactly what you want.
Their is no risk of you being mutilated in your private regions.
If you get stuck in a burning building nobody is going to turn you back because you aren't properly dressed.

I'm so glad I live in the west.
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What century do you think we live in? :eek3:

I know that there's too much gross generalisations in this post and you're not helping one bit.
 
DefMATRIXense said:
if it happens to me, I have fucking balls to leave in two days instead weeks or months. I have no fear at all. Of course women are fault for not leaving abusive boyfriends or husbands.
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If a child is born into a DV situation, watching their parents duke it out all the time, how can a child know what a loving relationship is?

That child grows up and emulates exactly what he/she saw and learned.

You know.. "monkey see & monkey do". Children pick up what they learn.

The statement that women are at fault for not leaving their abusive spouses is just as bad as you stating it.

It's just as bad as the men/women laying their hands on their partners but wait a minute.. what about accountability?

We need to go way back to how we grew up and now take the little child that grew up.

Remember "monkey see.. monkey do."

Before you say it's the victim's fault.. remember it is the assaulter's fault as well.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
What century do you think we live in? :eek3:

I know that there's too much gross generalisations in this post and you're not helping one bit.
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dont be naive, dreama's correct

in the east, and elsewhere they STILL do it !!, half of us arent seen or have any idea of the rest of the world....

sure those places might have cellphones, but they still arent that 'modernised', and YES arranged marriage of this extreme still exits.

I would bet that the only time UN, or whatever intervenes as a court case to stop those marriages on young girls is when they 'got caught by westerners /attention' only to save face /reputation of that country, otherwise they dont care.
 
Grummer said:
dont be naive, dreama's correct

in the east, and elsewhere they STILL do it !!, half of us arent seen or have any idea of the rest of the world....

sure those places might have cellphones, but they still arent that 'modernised', and YES arranged marriage of this extreme still exits.

I would bet that the only time UN, or whatever intervenes as a court case to stop those marriages on young girls is when they 'got caught by westerners /attention' only to save face /reputation of that country, otherwise they dont care.
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I am not naive at all. Quite logical.

I feel we have no place at all to pass judgment on people, cultures and countries when we have no idea of how people, cultures and countries live their lives.

I know that other people, cultures and countries would not appreciate "the other" speaking for them or telling them how to live.

Arranged marriages do work because their parents have been married through arranged marriages.

There are really horrific perceptions of other religions and cultures, take the Muslim culture.

So many people thought the women walked 5 steps behind the men, ate in the kitchen after the men did and their female babies were killed or ostracized in preference of male babies. Quite false!

You need to get to know the people, their way of living and their cultures as well.

It's quite ironic that a person of luxury living is so willing to pass judgment on a person of basic, yet, fulfilling living.

Do you think maybe other people, cultures and countries just do not want to show you everything because they are plain and simple tired of receiving judgment & ostracization each time they don't "meet up" to a person or a group's expectations of normalcy?

Naivety? Logical thinking.
 
There are many different levels of rights.

Yeah, we women have our Bill of Rights...we can vote, we can drive a car, etc.

But oppression still exists - we still have a long way to go. We have issues with equality when it comes to social rights and other kinds of rights. An example - look at how the media protrays women...oh! wait! THAT's the objective of this thread!

Who is going with me to the bra-burning party? *winks* GIRL POWER for EQUALITY and RESPECT and DIGNITY - let's go!
 
An off topic has derived from this thread (and I LOVE when that happens!!)...

Are women to be held accountable for being in an abusive relationship? Can we really be so quick to judge when we do not know all of the details?

This woman whom I speak of is a friend of a friend of a friend. Her husband recently got laid off from his job of 20 years. He started drinking and getting depressed. *skipping the sad tale here* He started to hit her.

She's never held a job in her life - she was a homemaker and raised their four children and is continuing to raise two small ones. She called the police and filed a report. She pressed charges. He went to jail. He came back. She filed another charge plus got a restraining order. It didn't work. After she got released from the hospital, she was placed in a safe house. Unfortunately there weren't enough beds so she had to be separated from her two children. Somehow word got to the husband - the safe house's location was revealed. (For safety reasons I cannot elaborate).

She was scared. How was she going to get a job? She had no skills. No money. Two children. Very little support. Yet she did all of the right things.

And she died. He found her and shot her in the head three times.

The end.

Don't judge. Don't.
 
And no news will report this incident if I can help it.

We do NOT need news on this occurance for many obvious reasons - the main one is to protect the other women who were there as well. And if you are in a safe house or is considering going to one, please do NOT let this story deter you...incidents such as these are very rare. Please get out and get help. If you need help, PM me and I can point you to the right direction.



I'm pleading you.
 
Too common.

I could make the correlation between how women are being treated by society with domestic abuse, but I would be wasting my breath on here. Ha.

Hmmm...a thesis paper topic idea. *light bulb switches on*
 
Mrs Bucket said:
What century do you think we live in? :eek3:

I know that there's too much gross generalisations in this post and you're not helping one bit.
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21st century. I've been a victim of domestic violence but I was lucky that I lived in the west so I could get out of it as soon aas I came to my senses. If I lived in certain other countries I'd probably be dead by now because wife battering and ever wife killing is still legal in some countries.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
Before you say it's the victim's fault.. remember it is the assaulter's fault as well.
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I totally agree with that. I made a big mistake to stay in a situation where I was being attacked, but I DID get out eventually. I should have never let it happen in the first place since the signs were all there right from the word go, but I was in love and behaving very stupidly.

By the way: This isn't just a man verse woman thing. As my attackerers were also female. It happens too.
 
Eh, That movie is just a movie, why? Because of money money money $$$.

I had to admit it, I watched all the horror movies doesn't mean that I'm doing it like that in real life, nope that's not me nuh-uh because I know movie is just a movie again. Or not everyone are like that.

Oh, yes I'm aware that alot of women got abusive in relationship by men.
I think abusive women is totally wrong.

Not only sex sells but it's also racist, drunk, drugs and everything. That's like a disease anyway.

Well, There is alot of going on in this World everyday 24/7. What can you do about it?
That's way it is in society. Remember that you're Ddeaf/Hhoh, Gay, Lesbian, Straight, Race, Everything. You see all have different problems, it is not only to women. I have to say I'm sorry if any of you who's a lady feels that way. I understand how you feels.

Peace out and that's it.
 
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