This is how you create jobs....

[kokonut]

Institute for Energy Research | Jobs Boom: Shale Gas Industry Employment Up 45 Percent By 2015

The exploitation of shale gas resources in this country is projected to add 270k jobs between 2010 and 2015. And no need for a (failed) taxpayer bailout!

 

[kristy2078]

It's only temporary.

 

[kokonut]

It's only temporary.

Not temporary as in several years but more like as much as several decades worth. We have more oil and natural gas than the Middle East that we can recover from because of better technologies. There are enough oil and gas to last a few hundred years. In fact, many petroleum geologists are discovering that many old oil fields are actually refilling. Not all oil fields are like that though. And ever wonder why Canada is our number one oil importer that we get our oil from? There oil and gas resources are just as huge, too.

 

[kristy2078]

We could be using less fuel, but you know in another thread, people have said that higher MPG cars are not available in the US. We could reduce our fuel consumption by about half if such technology is available in the US. And, how much of the domestic fuel is going to be exported, anyway?

 

[Foxrac]

Not temporary as in several years but more like as much as several decades worth. We have more oil and natural gas than the Middle East that we can recover from because of better technologies. There are enough oil and gas to last a few hundred years. In fact, many petroleum geologists are discovering that many old oil fields are actually refilling. Not all oil fields are like that though. And ever wonder why Canada is our number one oil importer that we get our oil from? There oil and gas resources are just as huge, too.

I think you take oil shale so easily.

 

[TXgolfer]

We could be using less fuel, but you know in another thread, people have said that higher MPG cars are not available in the US. We could reduce our fuel consumption by about half if such technology is available in the US. And, how much of the domestic fuel is going to be exported, anyway?

How exactly would that help create jobs.

 

[kokonut]

We could be using less fuel, but you know in another thread, people have said that higher MPG cars are not available in the US. We could reduce our fuel consumption by about half if such technology is available in the US. And, how much of the domestic fuel is going to be exported, anyway?

The problem is the dependency on foreign sources of oil from unstable and unfriendly countries for years. The highest several years ago was that almost 70% of all of our oil were imported with most of them coming from unfriendly and unstable countries while the rest were from our own oil. Now it's closer to 54% imported and 46% domestic oil. To protect our economy, national security, and stability it's better to depend entirely or nearly mostly on our own domestic oil.

There are plenty of high MPG vehicles. Depends on what you mean by high which I think would be in the upper 30s to mid 40s range.

Any change to our infrastructures regarding transportation will require decades of planning ahead so it is of no use to eliminate oil at this point. It takes time but it is not worth to our national security at the same time. We need to ensure that we have the leverage and wholly energy independent to better protect ourselves and better plan for changes down the road without some unfriendly or unstable trying to leverage their imported oil against the U.S. Why send $500 billion dollars overseas just to buy imported oil while we can keep the money here in the United States and create jobs and use our own domestic oil instead? Make good economic sense.

 

[Jiro]

The problem is the dependency on foreign sources of oil from unstable and unfriendly countries for years. The highest several years ago was that almost 70% of all of our oil were imported with most of them coming from unfriendly and unstable countries while the rest were from our own oil. Now it's closer to 54% imported and 46% domestic oil. To protect our economy, national security, and stability it's better to depend entirely or nearly mostly on our own domestic oil.

There are plenty of high MPG vehicles. Depends on what you mean by high which I think would be in the upper 30s to mid 40s range.

Any change to our infrastructures regarding transportation will require decades of planning ahead so it is of no use to eliminate oil at this point. It takes time but it is not worth to our national security at the same time. We need to ensure that we have the leverage and wholly energy independent to better protect ourselves and better plan for changes down the road without some unfriendly or unstable trying to leverage their imported oil against the U.S. Why send $500 billion dollars overseas just to buy imported oil while we can keep the money here in the United States and create jobs and use our own domestic oil instead? Make good economic sense.

wow! nice! a 16% reduction on foreign oil. high five to Obama for that!

 

[Jiro]

Republicans Holding Nearly 3 Million Transportation Jobs Hostage For 6,000 Temporary Oil Jobs | ThinkProgress

With as many as 2.9 million new and existing jobs on the line, House Republicans are refusing to pass a transportation reauthorization bill, even after the Senate’s version of the bill overwhelmingly passed through the upper chamber in a 74-22 bipartisan vote.

The deadline for new transportation funding is June 30, and if the calendar flips to July without a compromise, as many as 1.9 million workers could lose their jobs, at least temporarily. The Senate version of the bill, if adapted, would create an additional one million new jobs as well, according to Department of Transportation projections.

So why are House Republicans holding nearly three million jobs hostage? Because they want approval of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline to be included in the bill. This infographic gives a sense of the GOP’s priorities:

The State Department estimates that roughly 6,000 jobs would be created if the Keystone XL is approved, but as few as 20 of them will be permanent.

 

[Foxrac]

Institute for Energy Research | Jobs Boom: Shale Gas Industry Employment Up 45 Percent By 2015

The exploitation of shale gas resources in this country is projected to add 270k jobs between 2010 and 2015. And no need for a (failed) taxpayer bailout!

Wait, taxpayer bailout? You means TARP?

TARP isn't failed because they are necessary to save bank and without TARP, you will live in poverty, addition to much severe recession and Great Depression II.

 

[Foxrac]

wow! nice! a 16% reduction on foreign oil. high five to Obama for that!

Yup, that's great news.

I know that conservatives will deny it because they want believe that based on lies.

 

[TXgolfer]

Republicans Holding Nearly 3 Million Transportation Jobs Hostage For 6,000 Temporary Oil Jobs | ThinkProgress

I am glad! I fully support this.

But of course the article....Think Progress And "1 million jobs created"??? Yeah sure it will....just like everything else the O admin did. :roll:

 

[Foxrac]

I am glad! I fully support this.

But of course the article....Think Progress And "1 million jobs created"??? Yeah sure it will....just like everything else the O admin did. :roll:

Support House version of bill?

I think you are very poor taste because we aren't going to support to put 3 million jobs in hostage. :roll:

 

[kokonut]

I am glad! I fully support this.

But of course the article....Think Progress And "1 million jobs created"??? Yeah sure it will....just like everything else the O admin did. :roll:

I think they were those "shovel ready" jobs.

 

[Jiro]

I am glad! I fully support this.

But of course the article....Think Progress And "1 million jobs created"??? Yeah sure it will....just like everything else the O admin did. :roll:

ah.... this article is silly... but OP's article is not.

mm-hmm...

 

[deafdrummer]

There are enough oil and gas to last a few hundred years. In fact, many petroleum geologists are discovering that many old oil fields are actually refilling.

I agree with you on the first point.

Second point - Are you talking about the abiogenic theory of oil formation? I believe the Soviets revived that in the 20th century, but was supposedly discredited because it failed to predict deposit locations. Maybe that was an outright lie to racketeer the oil market into higher prices based on "peak oil."

Or are you talking about oil seeps regardless of oil formation origin?

Look at this, peeps. Oil Fields Are Refilling...Naturally - Sometimes Rapidly There Are More Oil Seeps Than All The Tankers On Earth

 

[deafdrummer]

The problem is the dependency on foreign sources of oil from unstable and unfriendly countries for years. The highest several years ago was that almost 70% of all of our oil were imported with most of them coming from unfriendly and unstable countries while the rest were from our own oil.

That was done on purpose... To try to run the hostile countries' oil out before our is used up, so that the Christian insurgents in control of our country can invade other countries only able to defend themselves with a mixture of 19th and 20th century military equipment while we fight with Terminators (drones are a flying version of it, except piloted by someone thousands of miles away).

That may be our undoing if the abiogenic theory of oil formation is proved.

 

[deafdrummer]

Here is a more recent article that discusses the abiogenic origin of oil.

Peak Oil or Nonsense - Are Wells Refilling or Running Dry?

Consider the following, and then contact the oil companies and rip them a new one.

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Thinking it out rationally the dots just never connected. The[re] were no good answers to rational questions.

* First there seems to be a numbers problem. For the billions of barrels of oil that we know to exist, there had to be trillions upon trillions of dinosaurs and who knows how many forests arranged in neat piles to create all the oil wells that are being tapped today. Not to mention the wells yet to be discovered.
* Then we have the scavenger problem. Like today, most of the carcasses were probably an easy meal. It is likely that dinosaurs played a very small part in the process.
* How did the dinosaurs and trees collect in these pits upon death? Were they driven to the nearest future oil reserve by instinct when death was imminent? Most likely not. Where they dropped they died.
* Given much of the earth was covered with life and forests then would not make sense the most of the earth would have a thin layer of oil throughout?

Does scientific theory have to make sense? My best guess is - not.
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And a reader made the point that this oil is found thousands of feet below the surface (and I say TENS of thousands of feet). Where did all the dirt required to cover something the size of the earth, never mind the seafloor under the oceans (so that the beach wouldn't be 2-5 miles below land 500 feet from the edge of the seawater) come from? There isn't enough asteroid/meteorite/volcanic activity to make this happen, even on a geological scale to be able to say that the Earth was at one time much smaller than its current 7900-odd-mile diameter when dinosaurs were walking on it. Where did the material to expand it from say, 5000 mi in diameter to its current 7900 mi diameter come from?

Another article here shows that the oil coming out of this one well is dated to be of more recently made oil than the oil extracted 10 years prior...

http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj4.htm

 

[kokonut]

I agree with you on the first point.

Second point - Are you talking about the abiogenic theory of oil formation? I believe the Soviets revived that in the 20th century, but was supposedly discredited because it failed to predict deposit locations. Maybe that was an outright lie to racketeer the oil market into higher prices based on "peak oil."

Or are you talking about oil seeps regardless of oil formation origin?

Look at this, peeps. Oil Fields Are Refilling...Naturally - Sometimes Rapidly There Are More Oil Seeps Than All The Tankers On Earth

Oil filling in naturally.

 

[kokonut]

Here is a more recent article that discusses the abiogenic origin of oil.

Peak Oil or Nonsense - Are Wells Refilling or Running Dry?

Consider the following, and then contact the oil companies and rip them a new one.

-------------------------
Thinking it out rationally the dots just never connected. The[re] were no good answers to rational questions.

* First there seems to be a numbers problem. For the billions of barrels of oil that we know to exist, there had to be trillions upon trillions of dinosaurs and who knows how many forests arranged in neat piles to create all the oil wells that are being tapped today. Not to mention the wells yet to be discovered.
* Then we have the scavenger problem. Like today, most of the carcasses were probably an easy meal. It is likely that dinosaurs played a very small part in the process.
* How did the dinosaurs and trees collect in these pits upon death? Were they driven to the nearest future oil reserve by instinct when death was imminent? Most likely not. Where they dropped they died.
* Given much of the earth was covered with life and forests then would not make sense the most of the earth would have a thin layer of oil throughout?

Does scientific theory have to make sense? My best guess is - not.
-------------------------

And a reader made the point that this oil is found thousands of feet below the surface (and I say TENS of thousands of feet). Where did all the dirt required to cover something the size of the earth, never mind the seafloor under the oceans (so that the beach wouldn't be 2-5 miles below land 500 feet from the edge of the seawater) come from? There isn't enough asteroid/meteorite/volcanic activity to make this happen, even on a geological scale to be able to say that the Earth was at one time much smaller than its current 7900-odd-mile diameter when dinosaurs were walking on it. Where did the material to expand it from say, 5000 mi in diameter to its current 7900 mi diameter come from?

Another article here shows that the oil coming out of this one well is dated to be of more recently made oil than the oil extracted 10 years prior...

Wall Street Journal Article  About The Origins Of Crude Oil

Dinosaurs were not involved in making the oil but plankton.