The End of Gangs

[jonnyghost]

It sounds great, but I don't see anything about cost in the article. If you are going to put everyone associated with an organization in prison or deport them, it's got to cost a lot. When you go to that level, it's just like the war on drugs which isn't exactly cost effective.

Some of the change in the article I think has more to do with with the location of money. Cyber crime is a lot more profitable than street crime. It's less visible too. And, those areas are also gentrifying. I'm guessing the crime is moving to cheaper areas.

It's good that we are breaking up illegal activity, but crime still does seem to be alive and well these days. It's just taking different forms.

I think yoj are right that scams and fraud are up but i would rather loose my money in a scam than my life in a car jacking.

20 years ago there where few resources for the average person to steal without actually robbing someone but now they steal credit cards and social numbers or go phishing. Much bigger payout with much less risk like you say.

 

[Foxrac]

I'm not targeting Latinos. I'm targeting illegals. So what if they happen to speak Spanish? You want to enjoy the freedoms of this country? Obey the laws and follow the rules like all applicants are expected to do - whether they speak Spanish or not....

There is one reason that I made statement because you didn't address the Americans who are capable to work and take advantage of welfare programs like many single mothers.

I don't condone illegal immigrants, however, I do have sympathy for kids who enter country illegally that brought by their parents, so kids don't know about immigration law until they are getting older.

I prefer to limit the welfare programs to American with disabilities only.

 

[Lau2046]

There is one reason that I made statement because you didn't address the Americans who are capable to work and take advantage of welfare programs like many single mothers.

I don't condone illegal immigrants, however, I do have sympathy for kids who enter country illegally that brought by their parents, so kids don't know about immigration law until they are getting older.

I prefer to limit the welfare programs to American with disabilities only.

So Americans who lost their jobs because their employers decided to close shop here and outsource in India should get nothing? There's a lot of able body Americans who can't get a job because they're too old, too overqualified, too much experience, or some other lame excuse. Just because they don't Habla Espanol doesn't mean they don't need assistance. Social Services should help the people here by birth and those they entered legally first....

 

[Jiro]

So Americans who lost their jobs because their employers decided to close shop here and outsource in India should get nothing? There's a lot of able body Americans who can't get a job because they're too old, too overqualified, too much experience, or some other lame excuse. Just because they don't Habla Espanol doesn't mean they don't need assistance. Social Services should help the people here by birth and those they entered legally first....

I'm sorry but I chuckled.

 

[Foxrac]

So Americans who lost their jobs because their employers decided to close shop here and outsource in India should get nothing? There's a lot of able body Americans who can't get a job because they're too old, too overqualified, too much experience, or some other lame excuse. Just because they don't Habla Espanol doesn't mean they don't need assistance. Social Services should help the people here by birth and those they entered legally first....

I don't think that you are understanding about there are many unproductive citizens (non-disabilities), including single mothers with many children don't want to work and they prefer to live on government's welfare, so that's equally bad as illegal immigrants flowing via unsecured border and loose on street. Anyone who couldn't afford to have children so they shouldn't have children.

Many employers use E-Verify now, also there are many job opening in state of Texas so citizens could take advantage and accept the job offers.

Outsource? Blame on politicians for allowing free trade and loose on corporations and many jobs got outsource to China as well.

Please don't demonize me as support illegal immigrants, but illegal parents who take their kids to US illegally is unfortunate and very sad because children don't know about immigration laws. Generally, I don't welcome illegal immigrants to US, but take kids into country illegally is extremely horrible.

 

[Jiro]

I don't think that you are understanding about there are many unproductive citizens (non-disabilities), including single mothers with many children don't want to work and they prefer to live on government's welfare, so that's equally bad as illegal immigrants flowing via unsecured border and loose on street. Anyone who couldn't afford to have children so they shouldn't have children.

Many employers use E-Verify now, also there are many job opening in state of Texas so citizens could take advantage and accept the job offers.

Outsource? Blame on politicians for allowing free trade and loose on corporations and many jobs got outsource to China as well.

Please don't demonize me as support illegal immigrants, but illegal parents who take their kids to US illegally is unfortunate and very sad because children don't know about immigration laws. Generally, I don't welcome illegal immigrants to US, but take kids into country illegally is extremely horrible.

there's no good answer. if a person is living on welfare checks... good luck. it's a poverty. that's how we'll weed out people choosing to be unproductive.

 

[Grummer]

on other way of saying unproductive, is kinda bad and mean, how about that they didn't decide to get rich.....and just maybe they are doing their bit to help reducing environmental impact by not contributing to Humans' consumption leading to destroy Earth?

 

[Foxrac]

on other way of saying unproductive, is kinda bad and mean, how about that they didn't decide to get rich.....and just maybe they are doing their bit to help reducing environmental impact by not contributing to Humans' consumption leading to destroy Earth?

Unproductive means you are capable to work but refuse to work and be responsibly adult - take care of yourself, not government.

It doesn't include people with disabilities that where their capable to work is limited or unable to perform a job.

 

[Jiro]

on other way of saying unproductive, is kinda bad and mean, how about that they didn't decide to get rich.....and just maybe they are doing their bit to help reducing environmental impact by not contributing to Humans' consumption leading to destroy Earth?

no. not that kind of people. I'm talking about people who want freebies... "gimme gimme gimme".... wants to do nothing but play games and watch tv all day long...

that.

 

[Foxrac]

no. not that kind of people. I'm talking about people who want freebies... "gimme gimme gimme".... wants to do nothing but play games and watch tv all day long...

that.

Agreed, I used to stay in house for months and did nothing, except for watching TV and play video game, but I realized that I can't survive by staying and do nothing at home, so I decided to focus on various activities like fishing, camping, hiking, traveling, workout, school, community service coordinator for our organization and volunteer jobs.

I'm bodybuilding since August and go to gym on regular basis to workout with my muscle, also some portions of bodybuilder diet isn't easier for my tummy and I have to take challenge while deal with upset tummy.

 

[VacationGuy234]

I think yoj are right that scams and fraud are up but i would rather loose my money in a scam than my life in a car jacking.

20 years ago there where few resources for the average person to steal without actually robbing someone but now they steal credit cards and social numbers or go phishing. Much bigger payout with much less risk like you say.

I agree. It is also a lot harder to steal cars, especially high end, these days. For a very expensive car, there is a chance you could lose your life because the only way for a thief to steal it is with your keys. And, there have been instances of deadly car theft.

 

[VacationGuy234]

I think it is best interest to educate the kids, regardless on immigration statuses

This is actually the problem and the reason Arizona has a big issue with immigration. Those schools get money based on taxes. Illegal immigrants are not putting money into the school system. You can't have a small number of citizens paying for the schools with a large population of unpaid students.

How would you solve that problem?

 

[Foxrac]

This is actually the problem and the reason Arizona has a big issue with immigration. Those schools get money based on taxes. Illegal immigrants are not putting money into the school system. You can't have a small number of citizens paying for the schools with a large population of unpaid students.

How would you solve that problem?

Illegal immigrants do pay sale tax and property tax (included in rent if live in rental properties).

For income tax, if employers choose to deduct the payroll for income tax so they indeed pay income tax, but they aren't qualify for tax refund.

 

[caz12]

all those poor American students killed and burnt in mexico..apparently mexico dangerous for Americans strange they desperate get to America and screw you out of tax,all gang related