Texas lawmaker to introduce anti-immigration bill

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Poor Violet.

It's already hard enough people already accuse her of stealing someone's ID.
 
It completely amazes me that anyone would support this move in any state. Especially when some of the posters here would fight to the death against discrimination of the HOH or deaf, but feel it is perfectly acceptable to discriminate against others. Talk about hypocracy and self centeredness.
 
CJB said:
The covert racism. It's spreading.
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I see that as well. And I find it frightening. When people speak of the "moral decline" in this country, this is one of the first things that comes to mind.
 
I don't like it at all; I'm still a registered Republican but I don't like the law that is similar to Arizona. It'd make more difficult for me and my girlfriend and my friends who are Mexicans.

That new law cannot be pass and must be avoid, Texas is rich history of Mexican cultures as well as Texan cultures and I am proud to be Texan and embrace the culture of Texas for what the Mexicans (Tejanos to be exact) and Texans has fought against Santa Anna's Army for independence of Texas. It can't be pass into the constitution of Texas.

And, what Governor Rick Perry said on Arizona's immigration law...

FOXNews.com - Texas Gov: Arizona Immigration Law 'Not Right' for Texas
 
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*it's a pix of my favorite comic strip called Savage Chickens. A chicken is gasping, staring at the big sign on the wall - "PARANOIA. IT'S EVERYWHERE"
 
A drafter of the 14th Amendment, Senator Jacob Howard, noted:

"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virture of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of embassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States."[3]

Senator Lyman Trumbull also noted in the Congressional record:

"The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' [...] What do we mean by 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."[4]

The common analogy that was used in Congressional deliberations at the time was regarding the citizenship status of Indians. As they were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States - they owed allegience to their tribes - so too were foreigners or sojourners considered subjects and not citizens. As a newborn person of a foreign parent in the United States could not be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, they too were to be considered subjects - entitled to the protections of our laws, but not citizens.
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Oh Snap!


Look what I found:

Chapter III
Foreigners
Article 33. Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualifications set forth in Article 30. They are entitled to the guarantees granted by Chapter I, Title I, of the present Constitution; but the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.
Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.
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Well, I am not trying to imply which nationality the majority of illegals are from in Arizona, but they aren't exactly dropping in on parachutes from across the ocean.

1917 Constitution of Mexico
 
You know, my Uncle is a legal Mexican. I have cousins who are half-mexicans.

They support Arizona's new law. Why? Because their daddy did the right thing by coming to the U.S. the right way.

They view illegals as criminals (oh, and so does the State of Arizona).

I forgot to mention, they are part of the 70% of voters who supported Arizona's new law. They live in Arizona.

So, those who DO NOT live in Arizona, I am curious, do you feel you have the appropriate "authority" to tell the citizens of Arizona how to combat their criminals ?

If you had that authority, would you block this law?

Is that constitutional, or is it fascism?

Again, this law does not target legal residents, it targets illegals. You know ... criminals.

If your not a criminal, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Yes, it is that cut and dry.
 
Jiro said:
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*it's a pix of my favorite comic strip called Savage Chickens. A chicken is gasping, staring at the big sign on the wall - "PARANOIA. IT'S EVERYWHERE"
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You know the saying ... "its not really paranoia if they are really out to get you ...."?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/02/border-tunnel-found-west-of-otay-mesa/

http://www.kswt.com/Global/story.asp?S=8937681

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/slide...exico-us-smuggling-drugs-guns-people-10180278

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWAfr5P_78Y]YouTube - Illegal Alien Night Vision Border Crossing[/ame]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4653536.stm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5173738&ps=rs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012601963.html

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Man-pleads-guilty-in-Mexico-border-tunnel-case-1710065.html

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http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/05/world/fg-tijuana5

Tijuana police abandon posts
After federal agents confiscate the force's weapons, officers decide going back on patrol would be too risky.
January 05, 2007|Richard Marosi, Times Staff Writer

TIJUANA — The municipal police force in this troubled border city walked off the job Thursday after soldiers and federal agents ordered its members to turn over their weapons in connection with homicide investigations.

The surprising turn of events came two days after Mexican President Felipe Calderon dispatched 3,300 federal troops and police to the city in an effort to combat violence linked to drug cartels.

Tijuana Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon acknowledged in a radio interview Thursday that local and state police were being compromised by narco-traffickers, and he said government salaries could not compete with the financial rewards offered by drug dealers.

Members of the 2,300-strong police force turned over more than 2,100 guns and semiautomatic assault rifles at police headquarters. But police officials decided it would be too dangerous to patrol unarmed, especially because more than a dozen officers have been killed recently in drug-related attacks.

"The police are not patrolling the city. They won't work without their weapons," said Fernando Bojorquez, a spokesman for the city's top police official, Secretary of Public Safety Luis Javier Algorri Franco.

Among those whose weapons were taken were the bodyguards for the mayor and for Algorri, a civilian who does not carry a weapon.

A spokesman for the federal attorney general said the military had ordered the confiscation of the police weapons to investigate whether any had been used in suspicious killings. He gave no details.

It was not immediately known how many homicides the federal officials were investigating. More than 300 people were killed in the city in 2006.

Police walked out late in the afternoon, and no major disturbances had been reported by late evening.

The soldiers and federal agents set up checkpoints Thursday across the city and began patrolling downtown, the Zona Rio commercial district and some tough neighborhoods.

Dozens of disarmed officers remained outside City Hall after 9 p.m., eating chicken tacos and wondering what would happen next.

The next shift, due in at 7 a.m., was ordered to report to the plaza, and police will remain there until their weapons are returned, Bojorquez said.

"We're defenseless against organized crime. Without our weapons, we can't do anything," said one officer, who declined to be identified.

It appeared that municipal police were still on duty at jails.
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I feel sorry for those with non-Spanish surnames.

It's bad enough they're being harassed for false accusations of identity thefts.
 
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Steinhauer said:
You know the saying ... "its not really paranoia if they are really out to get you ...."?


Border tunnel, with elevator, discovered - SignOnSanDiego.com

Tunnel Found In Mexicali Two Blocks South Of The Border - KSWT: Local News, Weather, Sports Yuma, AZ El Centro Imperial Valley, CA |

Secret Tunnels from Mexico to the U.S. for Smuggling Drugs, Guns, and People - ABC News

YouTube - Illegal Alien Night Vision Border Crossing

BBC NEWS | Americas | Drug haul in secret border tunnel

Cross-Border Tunnel Entrance Found in San Diego : NPR

Tunnel Found on Mexican Border - washingtonpost.com

Man pleads guilty in Mexico border tunnel case - Mexico Border Gossip

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Tijuana police abandon posts - Los Angeles Times
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old news. all above are the result of our multi-billion dollars Drug War. It's making them richer, more powerful, and bolder. Those tunnels were built to transport a hefty amount of drugs into America..... not for Mexican-version of "19th Century Underground Railroad"

Do you continue to support our current Drug War policy?
 
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That's a lot of work for illegal immigration; seems to suggest something else: smugglers.

Smugglers are not interested in living in America-- only money.
 
Steinhauer said:
They view illegals as criminals (oh, and so does the State of Arizona).
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and so does federal government

Steinhauer said:
I forgot to mention, they are part of the 70% of voters who supported Arizona's new law. They live in Arizona.
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and what is the demographic information on those 70% Arizona voters?

Steinhauer said:
So, those who DO NOT live in Arizona, I am curious, do you feel you have the appropriate "authority" to tell the citizens of Arizona how to combat their criminals ?
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Yes. I have a disdain for those who violates the Constitution.

Steinhauer said:
If you had that authority, would you block this law?
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no. That's not how it works in America. It's not a dictatorship. The Constitution has provided us tool and way to resolve this issue. It will be dealt with at Supreme Court, Department of Justice, Congress, and some courts.

Steinhauer said:
Is that constitutional, or is it fascism?
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see above. The state law CANNOT supersede the federal law and/or do the federal job. Is that fascism when the state supersedes the federal law?

Steinhauer said:
Again, this law does not target legal residents, it targets illegals. You know ... criminals.
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and how do you find the illegals without targeting the legal residents of same race as illegals? That's like trying to find one infected sheep from a flock of sheep. You have to inspect every single sheep and run the blood test.

Steinhauer said:
If your not a criminal, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Yes, it is that cut and dry.
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so since I'm a foreigner and not a Caucasian person... I should let any police officer to interrogate me on daily basis? or for every violation I committed including a minor one?
 
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