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[Anij]

**nodding** We all make our blunders. Best to simply apologize for our errors, and learn from the mistake.

And for what it's worth -because I starting becoming involved in the Deaf Community as a HH/D person in my early adults years - it might be my "natural culture" but it's not my "native culture" so I still make my share of mistakes !!!! It's not about wanting to, or pretending we can navigate a second culture flawlessly - it's about being gracious and honest when we (not if we) mess up that goes for hh/d/hearing alike

 

[Etoile]

AquaBlue - Try to get your hands on a copy of the PBS documentary Through Deaf Eyes. There is a companion book but it's not as good as the film. I know it's available on Netflix. You will probably find it very informative and enjoyable at the same time.

 

[Anij]

AquaBlue - Try to get your hands on a copy of the PBS documentary Through Deaf Eyes. There is a companion book but it's not as good as the film. I know it's available on Netflix. You will probably find it very informative and enjoyable at the same time.

Hey Etoile - do you remember the name of the french film ... it's in LSF(which is close enough for me to understand) - umm at least part of it is if I remember right ?- "In the Land of the Deaf" maybe ?? I can't remember, but it was interesting as well.

 

[ismi]

Hey Etoile - do you remember the name of the french film ... it's in LSF(which is close enough for me to understand) - umm at least part of it is if I remember right ?- "In the Land of the Deaf" maybe ?? I can't remember, but it was interesting as well.

Yep, it's In the Land of the Deaf (or at least, I also remember it as that).

 

[Etoile]

Yep, it's In the Land of the Deaf (or at least, I also remember it as that).

That's correct! I haven't seen it personally. When I was younger, it was very expensive to me, so I couldn't afford to get it. Now I have the money to buy it, but I don't have a working VCR, and it isn't on DVD yet. I hope it comes out on DVD someday.

 

[VamPyroX]

I read your posts again and I just know how your ideas of me have become true (to you both). I am in shock right now. Disrespect for the Deaf culture...oh please give me a break.

Perhaps, they're not directly saying that you are intentionally disrespecting deaf culture... but saying it in a way that you might be doing it by accident or something of that manner.

I've attended public deaf socials where an interpreter student or ASL student would attend. They would approach other deaf people in an awkward manner. For instance, a couple deafies in the middle of a conversation and say something like, "Hello, I think your 'Deaf Culture' is so awesome! I know sign language. Can you help me?" Well, although it wasn't intentionally... it was not an appropriate approach.

So, they are probably talking about a person disrespecting deaf culture... not as you disrespecting deaf culture.

 

[Anij]

That's correct! I haven't seen it personally. When I was younger, it was very expensive to me, so I couldn't afford to get it. Now I have the money to buy it, but I don't have a working VCR, and it isn't on DVD yet. I hope it comes out on DVD someday.

I borrowed it from the local Deaf Resource Centre here ... AGES ago ... It would be neat to get on DVD - I wonder if someone might youTube it ?

 

[deafbajagal]

Good news! My friend has hers on DVD...I just checked Amazon.com...they do have it - it's all in French, of course.

 

[Etoile]

Oh wow! It looks like it is Region 2 though, which is Europe. I think there are ways to make it play on the computer though...like you can tell your computer to pretend it is Region 2. Wow, it is $55 on Amazon though! I will have to wait...I just bought some Japanese deaf films and I can't afford to get this one right now.

Wait! Maybe I should check the library at Gally!

 

[Anij]

I'm sure someone at Gally MUST have it !

P.S. what the heck happened to the online version of the Gally bookstore ? a few years back I got my DW2 Backpack and shirts there ( yikes ok ... that was '02 !) ... did they get rid of it ... or am I just not finding it on the website ???

 

[Etoile]

I think they took it down unfortunately. The bookstore is still there of course! Is there anything in particular you wanted? I could get it for you.

 

[Anij]

I think they took it down unfortunately. The bookstore is still there of course! Is there anything in particular you wanted? I could get it for you.

Thanks ... no I was just wanting to look around is all ... they have neat stuff !!!

I adore my DW2 backback ... I've used it for yearrrrrs and it's in awesome shape! I was sooo wishing I could have gone to DeafWay2 ... maybe if there's a DW3 I'll be there

I've totally hyjacked this thread haven't I ... lol ... movies, DVDs, Gally Bookstore - wait actually they're all culturally important.

 

[AquaBlue]

Books are good for reference.

Do not believe you can learn about d/Deaf Culture from a book or you will be thoroughly disappointed.

Well no ASLGAL. But I can get a general idea of the culture via books.

 

[AquaBlue]

And for what it's worth -because I starting becoming involved in the Deaf Community as a HH/D person in my early adults years - it might be my "natural culture" but it's not my "native culture" so I still make my share of mistakes !!!! It's not about wanting to, or pretending we can navigate a second culture flawlessly - it's about being gracious and honest when we (not if we) mess up that goes for hh/d/hearing alike

Understood.

 

[AquaBlue]

AquaBlue - Try to get your hands on a copy of the PBS documentary Through Deaf Eyes. There is a companion book but it's not as good as the film. I know it's available on Netflix. You will probably find it very informative and enjoyable at the same time.

I will order it through Netflix ASAP.

 

[AquaBlue]

Perhaps, they're not directly saying that you are intentionally disrespecting deaf culture... but saying it in a way that you might be doing it by accident or something of that manner.

I've attended public deaf socials where an interpreter student or ASL student would attend. They would approach other deaf people in an awkward manner. For instance, a couple deafies in the middle of a conversation and say something like, "Hello, I think your 'Deaf Culture' is so awesome! I know sign language. Can you help me?" Well, although it wasn't intentionally... it was not an appropriate approach.

So, they are probably talking about a person disrespecting deaf culture... not as you disrespecting deaf culture.

So I should wait until someone approaches me instead? Just curious.

 

[AquaBlue]

Oh wow! It looks like it is Region 2 though, which is Europe. I think there are ways to make it play on the computer though...like you can tell your computer to pretend it is Region 2. Wow, it is $55 on Amazon though! I will have to wait...I just bought some Japanese deaf films and I can't afford to get this one right now.

Wait! Maybe I should check the library at Gally!

I would assume that "Gally" is Gallaudet University? Etoile does live in DC.

 

[AquaBlue]

Thanks ... no I was just wanting to look around is all ... they have neat stuff !!!

I adore my DW2 backback ... I've used it for yearrrrrs and it's in awesome shape! I was sooo wishing I could have gone to DeafWay2 ... maybe if there's a DW3 I'll be there

I've totally hyjacked this thread haven't I ... lol ... movies, DVDs, Gally Bookstore - wait actually they're all culturally important.

It's cool Anij...I am learning even with those off-topic posts. Thanks!

 

[VamPyroX]

So I should wait until someone approaches me instead? Just curious.

No. Just treat the deaf person as if you were approaching a hearing person.

If you were talking through a bunch of people at a hearing party and overheard a couple having a light conversation, you could easily blend in by saying "hi" to them and introduce yourself before continuing with their conversation. If they were having a serious conversation and not aware that people may be eavesdropping in on their conversation, then it wouldn't be a good idea to jump in and interrupt them.

With a deaf person, the same thing applies. If it's in an atmosphere where it's a deaf social event, then it's likely that everyone knows sign language and expect their conversation not to be private. Then, you could blend in by introducing yourself and continue with their conversation without any mention that you are a newbie or an ASL student unless they ask you.

For instance, I like anime. I go to an anime convention every year. When I was new to the anime scene, I didn't show up at the anime convention and jump into other people's conversations with something like... "OMG! Anime is so awesome! I just started watching anime last year and never knew they had an awesome convention like this here this year! Awesome! So, I bet you guys like anime too! Right?" That would make me look like a retard. Instead, I walked around and observed several things privately. If I saw a person dressed up as a character that I didn't recognize, I would... wait a bit and watch a bunch of them get together for a photo shoot (they announce the character name and gather people)... skim through some anime series on video and see if a picture comes to mind... meet with that person and say, "Great costume!" and go with the flow.

So, don't act like you're a newbie interpreting student trying hard to learn everything you can about deaf culture by asking people or reading books about it. Just go with the flow. Talk to deaf people with a conversation as you would with a hearing person. Don't immediately introduce yourself as an interpreter student unless they ask you what you do. Simply introduce yourself with your name and continue with a conversation like normal.

 

[AquaBlue]

Is the second Sound & Fury documentary out yet? If so, where can I get it; and what's the title?