Super Earths, eh?

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I came across this article at yahoo.com something about afew new planets found 42 light years away.

This is rather interesting and as they called them Super Earths, since they look similar to our planet Earth...I wonder to myself if its possible that there's life on these Super Earths that orbit around a small star 42 light years away? Who knows...lol. :lol:

An artist's impression of the trio of super-Earths discovered ... - Yahoo! News Photos
 
That's old news, I hear that one before thru Science magazine.

As I remember it's not fully development "Earth" yet. Who know if we're become intelligence and snoop on this another "Earth".
 
Yes, they are actually finding a lot of Earth-like planets now. I believe there is life out there, too. :)
 
Yes, they are actually finding a lot of Earth-like planets now. I believe there is life out there, too. :)


It would be very surprising and awesome if theres still dinouars that exist in these Earth-like planets...lol. :lol:

(Anyone ever played the newest game Turok?)
 
Yeah! You should see my long-distance phone bill! :lol:
 
Yep, I'm not surprised because I've seen that news long time ago. They have discovered more than 150 planets in the universe so far. Quite a few are Earth-like planets.
 
AFP: Astronomers discover clutch of 'super-Earths'

The star with the 3 super earths is HD 40307 and is a type K star 42 light years away. The other star with 1 super earth and Jupiter planet is HD 181433. I didn't find the name of the star with the other super earth and Saturn sized planet.

The planets that were in the news last year, Gliese 581 c and d, are also super earths according to their minimum masses as revealed by the radial velocity measurement of their stars.

There were others found, like Gliese 876 d. In the early 90s, there were also some found around pulsars PSR B1620-26 and PSR B1257+12 by looking at how the planets' gravity influence the plusars' signals. The first one has one known planet. The second one has 3 known planets. There is a fourth object so small that it could be called an extrasolar asteroid. I remember when I first read about the planets of PSR B1257+12 a long time ago.
 
well the sun IS the most common star in the galaxy. Makes up for about 60-70% of all the stars in the universe which contains more stars than the grains of sand on all the beaches in the world. So under perfect conditions im SURE there are identical planets that are just like earth out there floating around. Makes you wonder doesnt it? :lol:
 
Yeah.

Life not from Earth is definitely possible. That doesn't mean it does exist, (which in turn doesn't say that it does not exist) we haven't seen it yet, so we tend to say it does not.

People tend to go by the properties of Earth itself, and yes, a lot of things on Earth require a very particular environment that is hard to duplicate randomly.

However, it would be possible for the same to happen elsewhere, a bit of a different environment, possibly not being able to support Earth life itself but in a similar fashion, it could develop in such a way that it supports a form of life.
 
so far they found around 270 planets out there..

yea super earths were found recently.. but we still not know what they have.. but only size yes... super earth is a bigger than earth but smaller than neptune or uranus (which are smaller than saturn). to me, it means that more like heavier gas or heavier something you weigh yourself on earth .. therefore it might not have something real live there.. but still i dont know at all! 42 light years aways is very very far aways if you want to go there.. too long time to get there.. it more like over million years to get there..

so there are no proof that if it is out there .... not yet.. so wait and see..
i heard one something that make very very high tech telescope that can see very very tiny planets into the star 's bright light that was someting we all cant see what is in the bright light at the star.. all planets that we found were in the bright lights.. how they found?? there are some tech way without to use telescope..
it called gavitional (sp) wobble or something.. i dont remmy the spell but that is..

it means someting machine that keep report every time so it keeps tracking.. it takes very very long time.. until they figure out on there paper something look like earthquake mark.. then they can idenfity them as planets.. that is how they found so far..
 
Here's a page on methods used to detect many extrasolar planets, including the radial velocity, transit and gravitational microlensing methods.

The radial velocity method uses the Doppler shift of the starlight caused by the star going around the center of mass of the star and planet. That center is known as the barycenter. Here's an animation showing how the star moves. When the star moves towards us, the light is blue shifted and when it is moving away, it's red shifted. Watching the shifts of the absorption lines of the star's spectrum can reveal this.

I made a spreadsheet of how much the sun is displaced by each planet. The barycenter of the Sun-Jupiter system is 710 to 780 thousand km from the center of the Sun, depending on where Jupiter is in in its non circular orbit. The radius of the sun is 696000 km, putting the barycenter above its surface.

The displacement due to Saturn is around 0.6 times the radius of the Sun. For Earth, it is about 450 km.

The displacements due to each planet add up, making the Sun move in a complex path around the solar system's barycenter.

If you have a recent version of the free Celestia program, you can select the object named SSB and see how the Sun moves around it and follow its reaction to Jupiter and Saturn by splitting the window into two views to also show those two planets in their orbits from a distance.

We see this effect with other stars by looking at the Doppler shift of the absorption lines in the star's spectrum and then doing frequency analysis to extract the frequencies of the planets' orbits. Someone out there could easily find Jupiter and Saturn around our star if they watched for long enough to cover enough of Jupiter and Saturn's orbital periods.

The three super earths orbiting one star that were recently in the news were detected with this method.

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The transit method involves watching the star periodically dim and then brighten again as the planet passes in front of it. When the planet is behind the star, then we get just the starlight. Then we could subtract that from the combination of the starlight and light from the planet to get what's emitted by the planet itself. It should be possible to use the equipment at the RIT observatory to use the transit method. There had been people doing projects to detect known extrasolar planets with this method at RIT.

Actually, it had been done by the professor who taught my University Astronomy class.

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The gravitational lensing method looks for stars that happen to have another star pass in between it and us. The gravity of the star in between would bend the light from the more distant star a bit like a lens would. If there is a planet orbiting the star in between, it would make the light be bent differently from how a star with no planets would do it. The alignment between the star with the planet and the more distant star doesn't last because those stars and we are moving through space, breaking the alignment, so we can't detect the planet again unless it was close enough to use another method on. This method can still give us a statistic picture of how common planets are.

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Other possible methods include using a coronagraph to block out the starlight to get light from the planets. The Kepler Mission will watch 100 thousand stars and use the transit method as well as watching for variation in the light due to the phases of large planets, like we can see different amounts of light from the Moon as it goes through its phases. Kepler should be able to find Earth sized planets. Another way that had worked is directly imaging a planet, like this one. It worked because it's a large, hot planet far from the brown dwarf it orbits and brown dwarfs are not so bright.
 
Can we move there? :giggle:

That would take WAY too many years for us to go there lol

The very only possible way to make it as fast as possible is go thru a space warp with the Falcon ship from Star Wars. :lol:
 
That's old news, I hear that one before thru Science magazine.

As I remember it's not fully development "Earth" yet. Who know if we're become intelligence and snoop on this another "Earth".

It is NOT an old news.

It is about the NEW DISCOVERY of two Super-Earth planets.

I have always kept my eyes on this subject for a long while.
 
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