Speech in the Deaf Community

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Anna Hirsch

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I'm working on a research project for my A.S.L. class in college. What are some opinions of the Deaf Community on the use of Speech?
 
Is that all you think about is stupid speech in the Deaf community? You are way off from another planet. :roll:
 
Some members of the "Deaf community" actually speak. It seems to revolve around whether a Cochlear Implant is worn by the DEAF/Deaf person. Also whether "some members" voluntarily decide to become "voice off".

It is complicated by when does one become DEAF. Difference: being born with the condition VS being older say 50.

Aside: Having" learnt speech" as "young child" one continues to speak during their life. Thus if one becomes DEAF at any age AFTER- you can still speak. Whether one "wants to" your CHOICE. Speaking is voluntary.

Much success in your project Anna
 
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Speech??? We all enjoy it! Why do you think it is called American Speech Language? :P
 
Bebonang said:
Is that all you think about is stupid speech in the Deaf community? You are way off from another planet. :roll:
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I've interacted with more than a few people in the deaf community (teachers included) that do speak. I think the purpose of the paper is to write something different and controversial for the sake of the assignment. Having spent more years than I cared to in education, I understand where Anna is coming from and I don't think she intended to tick people off by asking a question.

Good luck with the paper Anna....:wave:

Laura
 
drphil said:
Some members of the "Deaf community" actually speak. It seems to revolve around whether a Cochlear Implant is worn by the DEAF/Deaf person. Also whether "some members" voluntarily decide to become "voice off".

It is complicated by when does one become DEAF. Difference: being born with the condition VS being older say 50.

Much success in your project Anna
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That's not factual, drphil....been "speaking" for 51 years after becoming totally deaf at 14....every case is different.
 
rockin'robin said:
That's not factual, drphil....been "speaking" for 51 years after becoming totally deaf at 14....every case is different.
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He did say, "some members."

Just to add in defense of Anna so she doesn't get dumped on here, there's no point in writing a paper on ASL in the deaf community because everyone already knows how the deaf feel about their language. What sense would it make for a teacher to assign the same topic to every student? She's trying to get opinions from those that do, and choose to speak.

Laura
 
Lau2046 said:
He did say, "some members."

Just to add in defense of Anna so she doesn't get dumped on here, there's no point in writing a paper on ASL in the deaf community because everyone already knows how the deaf feel about their language. What sense would it make for a teacher to assign the same topic to every student? She's trying to get opinions from those that do, and choose to speak.

Laura
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Laura, if you stick around for the next five years or so, I am going to be interested to watch your development. It becomes laughable when the latest hearing person comes in to ask a question that multiple others have asked before. A lot of why we say is often tongue in cheek just to relieve the monotony of these kinds of silly assignments teachers choose to sic their students on us with.
 
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rockin'robin said:
drphil said:
Some members of the "Deaf community" actually speak. It seems to revolve around whether a Cochlear Implant is worn by the DEAF/Deaf person. Also whether "some members" voluntarily decide to become "voice off".

It is complicated by when does one become DEAF. Difference: being born with the condition VS being older say 50.

Much success in your project Anna
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That's not factual, drphil....been "speaking" for 51 years after becoming totally deaf at 14....every case is different.
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Agreed.

Actually of all the members of the Deaf/ASL communities I'm involved with most of those who happen to speak are HA users, not CI.

The Deaf community is diverse - in most happening to speak (in addition to ASL) is seen as interesting, but incidental because the language of our communities is Sign (ASL).
 
try going on to bbc sites although it bsl same difference for what you need.go to'SEE HEAR'on bbc sites see other deaf other countries....deaf community is not just america
 
In reading this thread as this same topic comes up again what has occurred to me once again is that it gets old to those that are asked again and again but it is new to those just starting a class.

It has gotten to the point where some colleges are allowing ASL to fulfill the foreign language requirement and some maybe taking it simply because it is something different. Thus, they don't know that much going in and also don't have control over what is being assigned.
 
I notice some of hoh, late-deafened n' deaf oralist still got a habit to use their voice. Even tho I'm hoh, but I don't use my voice when I sign to deaf. I only talk to hearing.
 
Bottesini said:
the monotony of these kinds of silly assignments teachers choose to sic their students on us with.
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I'm wondering, what do you think would be a good assignment for a teacher to give an ASL student?

Maybe the Deaf community would like to give some new ideas so that there is no more monotony.
 
Mimsy said:
I'm wondering, what do you think would be a good assignment for a teacher to give an ASL student?

Maybe the Deaf community would like to give some new ideas so that there is no more monotony.
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Go out and interact with actual people in your community, and then you are more likely just to use the language to ask proper, polite , getting to know you in a social way.

The things many ask here, are sometimes what I think they would feel inhibitions about if it were with a live face to face person.
 
Mimsy said:
I'm wondering, what do you think would be a good assignment for a teacher to give an ASL student?

Maybe the Deaf community would like to give some new ideas so that there is no more monotony.
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I think what I am saying is if you are actually facing a living person, you can see that they are just an average normal person like yourself, and not some alien mystery life form that must be deciphered.
 
When I took the ASL class I really enjoyed, we did things like take text about a situation - like going to the store- and role played two people discussing what they would like to get at the store. Or the teacher asked us to come up with various signs that utilized certain hand shapes. Or we were given a scenario written on a little card, and were supposed to get up and act out the activity in front of the class andthey would need to discuss and figure out what we might be doing - like planting a tree. Once we all met in a restaurant for a social and get something to eat. My teacher was Deaf of Deaf. We were never "assigned" to go take a survey or sign a song or anything like that.
 
Bottesini said:
I think what I am saying is if you are actually facing a living person, you can see that they are just an average normal person like yourself, and not some alien mystery life form that must be deciphered.
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Ah, good point. I understand.

Now I wonder if ASL teachers teach this to the students. I'm guessing in most cases they don't. They just focus on the language and not mention the respect aspect. I could be wrong since I'm not an ASL student.
 
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