Sony’s Subtitle Glasses Mean the Deaf Can Watch Movies in the Theater Too

Emmer said:
I do wish they would put captions on movies in the theatre. I have gone to an opera once and it had subtitles and I enjoyed it SO much more than any musical or play I've ever gone to before. I knew what was going on!

I wonder how long until they come up with a voice recognition device that would use a microphone to pick up speech and then make that into captions? I would use that for sure. Or do they already have that with the Dragon Speaking on the iPods? Maybe a little better technology is needed for it to recognize multiple speakers (as you usually have to "train" the computer to understand your own voice).
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I guess you are behind on the news. YouTube already has the technogoly that translates voices into texts. Even Android smartphones have that and there are GPS devices that respond to voices. However, none of these are completely accurate and make mistakes sometimes. My friend said that it would take 10 more years to perfect it. You mentioned about training the computer to recognize your voice like in the sci-fi movies "Back to the Future" or "Judge Dredd", that can happen like telling a door to open or your TV to turn on but it will not happen until the future after we die.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I tried that once and I was not allowed to bring my food in! I did get away with bringing my food other times. I stopped going to movies,I refused to pay $12 to go to a movie and not be able know what is being said!!
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That's why they call it smuggling. :lol:
 
Attention! Attention!

There is one nice guy reviewing this new device to watch Captain America in Seattle recently. Here is the link: Deafcube | Blog | USL

One thing I don't like is that his personal information was required to be written down before they lent the glasses to him. He said he could see other deafies' personal information there on the list.

That's unacceptable to me since hearies don't do that which is not fair. I understand that it is to prevent theft but we could leave our driver licenses with a manager instead so that way other deafies don't know where I live, etc which is my privacy right.

BTW, his result is that he still prefers OC. I hope we will still be able to continue watching movies w/ OC in the future. In other words, hopefully they don't stop making OC because of this stupid new tech.
 
CrazyPaul said:
There is one nice guy reviewing this new device to watch Captain America in Seattle recently. Here is the link: Deafcube | Blog | USL

One thing I don't like is that his personal information was required to be written down before they lent the glasses to him. He said he could see other deafies' personal information there on the list.

That's unacceptable to me since hearies don't do that which is not fair. I understand that it is to prevent theft but we could leave our driver licenses with a manager instead so that way other deafies don't know where I live, etc which is my privacy right.

BTW, his result is that he still prefers OC. I hope we will still be able to continue watching movies w/ OC in the future. In other words, hopefully they don't stop making OC because of this stupid new tech.
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This is something I do have a problem with. The fact that they often require at least a driver's license or a personal ID to hold on while you use their devices, that's just wrong. I cannot leave my personal ID with anyone due to the risk of identity theft. The deaf people are often given more to deal with than the average Joe these days.
 
Banjo said:
This is something I do have a problem with. The fact that they often require at least a driver's license or a personal ID to hold on while you use their devices, that's just wrong. I cannot leave my personal ID with anyone due to the risk of identity theft. The deaf people are often given more to deal with than the average Joe these days.
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Well, when you use a company's property, what can it do to prevent you from stealing it? It can ask for your credit card number in case like a rental car company. However many deaf people who live on SSI don't have a credit card, then can you tell me how the theater manager make sure that its property would be returned after they are done with it? A business is a business. If I own a movie theater, I would ask for their driver licenses when they use my property so that way they can't take it home. Would you rather leave your personal info on the list where other deafies can see? As for me, I prefer to watch OC movies so I don't have to give my personal info to them. Anyway what about RWC or CV? I bet it requires the personal info as well in order to "borrow" the equipment.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Well, when you use a company's property, what can it do to prevent you from stealing it? It can ask for your credit card number in case like a rental car company. However many deaf people who live on SSI don't have a credit card, then can you tell me how the theater manager make sure that its property would be returned after they are done with it? A business is a business. If I own a movie theater, I would ask for their driver licenses when they use my property so that way they can't take it home. Would you rather leave your personal info on the list where other deafies can see? As for me, I prefer to watch OC movies so I don't have to give my personal info to them. Anyway what about RWC or CV? I bet it requires the personal info as well in order to "borrow" the equipment.
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That's different, a car rental company follow a different protocol than a movie theatre. At the movie theatres, the staff is often made up of teenagers and people with no experience in handling personal information. A car rental company on the other hand has plenty of experience in doing so and they often understand the consequences of identity theft.

Yes, they do require personal information. At least that's what I recall from the last time I used the RWC display. This is another reason why I prefer open captioning to any sort of captioning device. The deaf shouldn't have to put up with the hassles of providing personal information and risk having their identity stolen.
 
Banjo said:
Yes, they do require personal information. At least that's what I recall from the last time I used the RWC display. This is another reason why I prefer open captioning to any sort of captioning device. The deaf shouldn't have to put up with the hassles of providing personal information and risk having their identity stolen.
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I know what the fuck you are talking about. That's so stupid that we have to do this and that because we are deaf. Lets hope OC will never be obsolete because it's still a champ.
 
Banjo said:
This sort of argument doesn't really hold water if they have never done it in the past. Can you think of any theatres where all of the movies were open captioned in all showings? Did they ever do this? They cannot use this argument if it they haven't conducted a study to find the results.

Besides, you know what's ironic about the argument? The fact that the majority of closed captioning users are hearing. Just go in any sports bars, you'll see that a lot of their TVs are closed captioned, it's the same with gyms. You don't see people throwing a fit over a football game being closed captioned.
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There some movies theaters that only show foreign movies ! We one have in Boston called Orson Welles Theater and they ran a lot of foreign movies there and I loved to go there when I lived in Boston. I believe the place it still open .I would go with my sister and brother in law and they both are hearing and so where a lot of other people there! I don't hearing people are going to dies from watching a movie with CC! If anything should mandatory is should be movie theaters having CC for the deaf and hoh person . Our money is just a good as hearing people money!
 
Banjo said:
Nope, not a fact. Far from it. The fact is, people are refusing to make it available to the public. Open captioning has no limitations as long it is provided at all of the theatres.

Expensive devices are not good alternatives. I'm deaf and I know what it's like to deal with the so-called accessibility devices. Open captioning is by far and the best option, not to mention the most economic choice as well.
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I tried the head phones the theater has dear or hoh people I did not have to show any ID . The head phones where useless as I have trouble 'understanding'
what being said. I need to read what being said... Hearing people do not understand this! If I tell someone I did not understand a word they will yell it to me!! Or repeat the whole sentence all over again!!
 
Actually they do have programs that type what you say as you say it. All Windows Vista and 7 come with it free (search Speech Recognition). You have to train it to recognize what you say, but it can type pretty accurately. The more you use it, the more it adapts to your voice.

I meant it would be cool to have a pair of glasses (prescription available, of course) that had a small microphone above each ear, then made captions onto the bottom of the lenses so you could have captions for anyone talking.
 
Emmer said:
Actually they do have programs that type what you say as you say it. All Windows Vista and 7 come with it free (search Speech Recognition). You have to train it to recognize what you say, but it can type pretty accurately. The more you use it, the more it adapts to your voice.

I meant it would be cool to have a pair of glasses (prescription available, of course) that had a small microphone above each ear, then made captions onto the bottom of the lenses so you could have captions for anyone talking.
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While you are designing them lets include an on/off switch. I can see being in range of someone else's conversation and it be a distraction rather than a help just during that.
 
Emmer said:
I meant it would be cool to have a pair of glasses (prescription available, of course) that had a small microphone above each ear, then made captions onto the bottom of the lenses so you could have captions for anyone talking.
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No, thanks, I'd look like a fucking nerd when I wear this kind of glasses in public.
 
Emmer said:
Actually they do have programs that type what you say as you say it. All Windows Vista and 7 come with it free (search Speech Recognition). You have to train it to recognize what you say, but it can type pretty accurately. The more you use it, the more it adapts to your voice.
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WTF are you talking about? This is ALLDEAF.com and you talked about training the software to recognize deaf people's voice?
 
Yeah, it probably wouldn't work well in a large crowd, unless there was some way to specifically make it focus on one voice/one person. But I was thinking of in movies, classrooms, maybe even phone calls? That sort of thing. Even use it when at Subway :)

No, I talked about using it instead of recognizing your own voice, to make it recognize hearing people talking and turn it into captions. I used to use it because I have nerve damage in both hands, but typing is so much easier because I can see and think what I want to say. I'm sure it could learn to recognize Deaf people's voices as well. And they don't have to look stupid...technology now is pretty awesome, you could make them very similar to a normal pair of glasses or sunglasses.
 
Emmer said:
Yeah, it probably wouldn't work well in a large crowd, unless there was some way to specifically make it focus on one voice/one person. But I was thinking of in movies, classrooms, maybe even phone calls? That sort of thing. Even use it when at Subway :)

No, I talked about using it instead of recognizing your own voice, to make it recognize hearing people talking and turn it into captions. I used to use it because I have nerve damage in both hands, but typing is so much easier because I can see and think what I want to say. I'm sure it could learn to recognize Deaf people's voices as well. And they don't have to look stupid...technology now is pretty awesome, you could make them very similar to a normal pair of glasses or sunglasses.
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You are way off base here.
 
CrazyPaul said:
WTF are you talking about? This is ALLDEAF.com and you talked about training the software to recognize deaf people's voice?
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Voice recognization doesn't even work all that well on the hearing if the captioned movies that I see on youtube is any example. :p If the hearing can't understand deaf speech, how the heck is a software program going to recognize deaf voices?
 
deafskeptic said:
Voice recognization doesn't even work all that well on the hearing if the captioned movies that I see on youtube is any example. :p If the hearing can't understand deaf speech, how the heck is a software program going to recognize deaf voices?
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This isn't what is now but dreaming about what could be done in the future. Just because it isn't now doesn't mean it never will be.
 
Jane B. said:
This isn't what is now but dreaming about what could be done in the future. Just because it isn't now doesn't mean it never will be.
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I think that speech recognition is a technology is something that may take years, even decades to get right and even if they get it right, it's still not going to be 100% accurate.
 
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