So, will the deaf culture be there?

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shel90 said:
Frisky...to them, ASL is insignificant..they don't care for it as much as they do for spoken language. Not worth our time debating with them.
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To whom is ASL insignificant and not worth discussing? If you refer to the children of today with CIs, I disagree. If you continue to shut the door on discussion, ASL will be insignificant, but if you accept the decision to get a CI and pursue both spoken and signed language as one valid option - among others - you can make a huge positive impact on building the deaf community and reinforcing deaf culture.
 
Iam referring those who criticize us for our beliefs that all deaf and hoh children should be exposed to ASL along with English. Are you one of them, GrendalQ? I don't think u are.
 
Frisky Feline said:
I know I have mentioned it several times in the previous posts. All I wait is about 15 more years to go and see how children become adults are doing with their CIs and their lifestyles are. This is the only way for me to know what would be result. In my guts, it might be still the SAME result except kids may get gain to have a full tools to access to the language yet they still use ASL as long as they recevies positive vibes, and positive attitudes by the "certain" hearing society.
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There is a generation of kids who were implanted at around 2, and HAVE grown up. They are in their 20's. It is a small number, but you can seek them out and ask them.
 
shel90 said:
Iam referring those who criticize us for our beliefs that all deaf and hoh children should be exposed to ASL along with English. Are you one of them, GrendalQ? I don't think u are.
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Then to whom are you speaking? Who here does NOT advocate for ASL for children with a hearing loss?
 
faire_jour said:
There is a generation of kids who were implanted at around 2, and HAVE grown up. They are in their 20's. It is a small number, but you can seek them out and ask them.
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It's no need for me to chase and ask them. There will be allowing to be seen or clearly visible as the people as a whole. This is the only way that is more accurate fact for me to know. Indeed I know that Medias and hearing society put so much effort into it to get peoples attentions that are hearing people's views.
 
shel90 said:
Iam referring those who criticize us for our beliefs that all deaf and hoh children should be exposed to ASL along with English. Are you one of them, GrendalQ? I don't think u are.
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Shel, I'm with you on this -- I'm definitely an advocate for ASL! And not just for dabbling a little in it -- I think immersion is very important.
 
Frisky Feline said:
Last weekend I was away to see my old friends. I am speechless that I met my old friend's hearing husband. He signs very well, I mean he's pretty good. He IS NOT a CODA or does not have deaf children or does not have deaf siblings or relatives, but hearing kids. He is an adult who learns ASL very well!! Needless to say that he married deaf wife who is a close old friend of mine. He's an army guy. Yes He's in the army! *thud*
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I had a deaf client ask me last week if I was a CODA and she was surprised when I told her that I learned ASL as an adult to communicate with my deaf son.
 
faire_jour said:
There is a generation of kids who were implanted at around 2, and HAVE grown up. They are in their 20's. It is a small number, but you can seek them out and ask them.
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Hardly enough to do a study that could generalize. Population is too small. Likewise, Oxford Journals published a study of 15, I believe it was, deaf teens that had been implanted since age 2-4. The study found that the teens that were the highest functioning academically and socially were those that used both ASL and spoken language.
 
Frisky Feline said:
It's no need for me to chase and ask them. There will be allowing to be seen or clearly visible as the people as a whole. This is the only way that is more accurate fact for me to know. Indeed I know that Medias and hearing society put so much effort into it to get peoples attentions that are hearing people's views.
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If they are not a part of the Deaf community, but instead choose to listen and speak, how will you find out if you dn't seek them out?
 
jillio said:
Hardly enough to do a study that could generalize. Population is too small. Likewise, Oxford Journals published a study of 15, I believe it was, deaf teens that had been implanted since age 2-4. The study found that the teens that were the highest functioning academically and socially were those that used both ASL and spoken language.
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Can I see the study?
 
faire_jour said:
Year? Author? Even a few key words?
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Let's see...a key word would be CI. And students. Thought that was rather obvious. The author is Marsharck, et al. Year is approximately 2-3 years past.
 
souggy said:
Wow! My professors probably wouldn't even give the key words, OR the years. :laugh2: Only the author.
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Yep. I supplied more than should be expected.:lol: In fact, the name of the publication is all I would have given a student. That should be sufficient for finding the article if you apply a bit of reason. The years would naturally have been recent, given that the early implantees have just recently reached teen years. The key words were rather obvious as well.
 
faire_jour said:
If they are not a part of the Deaf community, but instead choose to listen and speak, how will you find out if you dn't seek them out?
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umm, I grew up and am in the hearing world already. My work field is where I work with hearing people and I do talk to them everyday. Remind you that the hearing people are the large population that I can't miss at all. Indeed, I still bump into several oral deaf, HOH and CI users who don't know ASL as well. Most of my hearing co workers do share informaton with me or ask lot of questions about Deaf or HOH or CI users. That's how I would know.
 
Frisky Feline said:
umm, I grew up and am in the hearing world already. My work field is where I work with hearing people and I do talk to them everyday. Remind you that the hearing people are the large population that I can't miss at all. Indeed, I still bump into several HOH and CI users who don't know ASL as well. Most of my hearing co workers do share informaton with me or ask lot of questions about Deaf or HOH or CI users.
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Gee, FF...you mean you aren't isolated to just contact with other Deaf people? You really get out and have contact with hearies?:giggle:
 
faire_jour said:
If they are not a part of the Deaf community, but instead choose to listen and speak, how will you find out if you dn't seek them out?
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I meet a lot more oral deafies than ASL-deafies. The latter I prefer... not so socially inept.

PFH's method of communicating with the hearing world by using only ASL is working... the actual ASL users emerge more often.
 
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