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Allow me to unleash upon the unsuspecting AD population...

Sign Snarlisms!

At a first blush, this oddity seems unrecognizable, until it dawns upon your consciousness that, merely and perhaps, it could be the alliterative cousin to Tongue Twisters! :Ohno:

I'll start! :type:

"Picking F9 French Fries"
Do it in ASL five times as fast as you can! :eek3:

And yes, I'm evil... 'F9' is actually a hexadecimal number! And yes, I know... 'Snarlism' isn't a word. Would you prefer a 'Snarling' at your expense? :whip:

Looking forward for more of the same! :lol:
 
Everything I sign looks like a Snarlism - and I officially second your use of the term Snarlism. I suggest you define it at Urban Dictionary.com.
 
Eyeth said:
Allow me to unleash upon the unsuspecting AD population...

Sign Snarlisms!

At a first blush, this oddity seems unrecognizable, until it dawns upon your consciousness that, merely and perhaps, it could be the alliterative cousin to Tongue Twisters! :Ohno:

I'll start! :type:

"Picking F9 French Fries"
Do it in ASL five times as fast as you can! :eek3:

And yes, I'm evil... 'F9' is actually a hexadecimal number! And yes, I know... 'Snarlism' isn't a word. Would you prefer a 'Snarling' at your expense? :whip:

Looking forward for more of the same! :lol:
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Sorry to say this, but "snarlism" IS a word in the English language because "ism" is a suffix.

F9 hex = 249 in decimal (base 10 or "normal numbers")

By the way, what IS the correct way to sign hex or other alphanumeric codes, since F is the same as 9, and W is the same as 6? My fiancee suggested for O (the letter) and 0 (the number) I could use my other hand to put a slash in the 0. (that's how we tell them apart)
 
gnulinuxman said:
By the way, what IS the correct way to sign hex or other alphanumeric codes, since F is the same as 9, and W is the same as 6? My fiancee suggested for O (the letter) and 0 (the number) I could use my other hand to put a slash in the 0.
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If you ask me, it's all about context, so we can usually tell them apart. However, I pity the Deaf fool who has a license plate number of "2VW 60O"! :rofl:
 
gnulinuxman said:
Sorry to say this, but "snarlism" IS a word in the English language because "ism" is a suffix.
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No, there is no such word as "snarlism" in the English lexicon. Just because you CAN attach a suffix to a root doesn't mean it's been done already and is in use. Eyeth's got a cool original word there!

gnulinuxman said:
By the way, what IS the correct way to sign hex or other alphanumeric codes, since F is the same as 9, and W is the same as 6?
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You can make the sign for LETTER before letters and the sign for NUMBER before numbers, so you'd get "LETTER F, NUMBER 9." Sort of clunky but it could help avoid confusion, like the way hearing people sometimes have to say things like "N as in Nancy, M as in Michael," etc.

Technically I believe a perfectly signed 9 and a perfectly signed F do look slightly different, but in a long string of letters and numbers I doubt it would be easy to tell the difference.
 
Interpretrator said:
No, there is no such word as "snarlism" in the English lexicon. Just because you CAN attach a suffix to a root doesn't mean it's been done already and is in use. Eyeth's got a cool original word there!
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A "snarlism" is something that is jumbled or confusable. Just because it isn't in a dictionary doesn't mean it isn't a word. According to Wikipedia:
Rather isolating
English: "He travelled by hovercraft on the sea." Largely isolating, but travelled and hovercraft each have two morphemes per word, the former being an example of relational synthesis (inflection), and the latter of derivational synthesis (derivation).
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The word "snarlism" is of relational synthesis. It has two morphemes, 'snarl' (something tangled or jumbled) and 'ism' (that which...).
More info on this is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_language .

Interpretrator said:
You can make the sign for LETTER before letters and the sign for NUMBER before numbers, so you'd get "LETTER F, NUMBER 9." Sort of clunky but it could help avoid confusion, like the way hearing people sometimes have to say things like "N as in Nancy, M as in Michael," etc.
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Thanks for the tip.

Interpretrator said:
Technically I believe a perfectly signed 9 and a perfectly signed F do look slightly different, but in a long string of letters and numbers I doubt it would be easy to tell the difference.
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Yeah, I've seen F with the fingers together and 9 with them spread out in books, but I've seen no differences between 6 and W so far. In person, though, I've seen both 9 and F signed both ways.
 
you'll believe wikipedia to be accurate...which anyone can add stuff too...but you dont believe a dictionary is accurate?
 
Yeah, I've seen F with the fingers together and 9 with them spread out in books, but I've seen no differences between 6 and W so far. In person, though, I've seen both 9 and F signed both ways.
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When you sign 6 you use your thumb touching pinky tip.. You sign W you wrap thumb around pinky finger. This how the two differnet!

LMM
 
LMM said:
When you sign 6 you use your thumb touching pinky tip.. You sign W you wrap thumb around pinky finger. This how the two differnet!

LMM
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Thanks! I didn't know that difference before.
 
Ariakkas said:
you'll believe wikipedia to be accurate...which anyone can add stuff too...but you dont believe a dictionary is accurate?
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Gee, you just can never agree with anything I say, huh? Is it because I'm a hearing Linux hippie who hangs out with deaf people just to socialize and have fun with them? My facts must mean nothing to you considering what happened last time you argued with me.

OK, smart-aleck, I found the same information in something you might trust:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9070762?query=synthetic languages&ct=

Happy?!

By the way: your statement about dictionaries is interesting, considering that if they had an entry for every form of every single word in the English language, it would go on so many pages it would be about the length of an encyclopedia!
 
gnulinuxman said:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9070762?query=synthetic languages&ct=
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You are pointing out that it is possible to make words using derivational morphology in English. That is true. What you actually said was that "'snarlism' is a word in the English language." That is not true. As I said, being able to make a word doesn't make that word automatically a part of the language. One could easily throw together a sign based on the morphological rules of ASL, but that doesn't automatically make it part of the ASL lexicon.

gnulinuxman said:
By the way: your statement about dictionaries is interesting, considering that if they had an entry for every form of every single word in the English language, it would go on so many pages it would be about the length of an encyclopedia!
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Exactly! The Oxford English Dictionary is the size of an encyclopedia and it gets bigger every year.
 
gnulinuxman said:
Yeah, I've seen F with the fingers together and 9 with them spread out in books, but I've seen no differences between 6 and W so far. In person, though, I've seen both 9 and F signed both ways.
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Actually I believe, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that the difference is in the circle. A perfect F makes a perfect circle with the thumb and index finger like "OK!", but a 9 uses the pads of the fingers together for a flattened circle, like the sign PICK.

But yeah, people don't necessarily sign that distinctly (I know I don't) and even if they did, the person on the receiving end might not know the difference. I'd still sign an apartment number of 39F as "3-9 LETTER F."
 
9 as one finger and thumb that makes a little move up and down

F as one finger and thumb that stays on F.

It s same thing for W with a little finger and thumb that stays on W

6 is the same thing with 9 that makes a little move

you can see the difference, Thats simple to do this.
 
Interpretrator said:
Actually I believe, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that the difference is in the circle. A perfect F makes a perfect circle with the thumb and index finger like "OK!", but a 9 uses the pads of the fingers together for a flattened circle, like the sign PICK.

But yeah, people don't necessarily sign that distinctly (I know I don't) and even if they did, the person on the receiving end might not know the difference. I'd still sign an apartment number of 39F as "3-9 LETTER F."
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You can sign 39 "-" F same time use expression with lips to show that F is letter
 
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~RR


As for 'Picking F9 French Fries', signing: 'ok-ok-ok-ok-ok' five times. :D
 
Roadrunner said:
As for 'Picking F9 French Fries', signing: 'ok-ok-ok-ok-ok' five times. :D
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That's a nice one. At the end, my 'O' in the 'OK' segment got sloppy real fast.
 
I can only think of two word combos, so far, such as:

"Improving Power" :shock: (Do it ten times fast and take an Advil for your aching elbow!)
"Grand Check" (It depends on whether you know the signs to a cheque, and extrapolating it to 'Grand'.)
"Certified Binoculars" (Now, I'm reaching! Best exit this thread, STAT!)

Maybe focusing on the similiarity of handshapes wouldn't be a good idea for 'Sign Snarlisms'. I'll see if I can come up with some longer examples that involves signs in the same location, motion & repetition, although the handshapes could be different. That kind sounds more workable, and yet, will get your hands in a twist! :rofl:
 
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