Sign for Grass

:cool2:RD, you wasn't talking about grass as in...(smoking) ...were, you?
 
loml said:
rockdrummer - The sign that Cheri describes is the one that I have used in ASL. You are using SEE, right? There is a SEE dictionary, Signing Exact English, Gerilee Gustavson and Esther Zawolkow, published Modern Sign Press.
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That's what I have, and I also have "The Joy of signing" by Lottie L. Riekehof.

and you're welcome, Rockdrummer. ;)
 
deafbajagal said:
According to SEE II in Arkansas, it is a palm (5 fingers facing upward) on the chin, going up and down...kinda hard to explain.

That's a regional sign. :)
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BINGO! That is the exact sign my son showed me. I don't think it is regional. I was trying to tell him I was going outside to cut the grass and I signed that to him in ASL. He looked at me confused when I signed grass in ASL. Then I showed him a picture of grass and he said no no.. and then showed me the claw sign up to his chin. Now that is confirmed the SEE sign for grass. People keep telling me that the SEE signs are the same as ASL but I find over and over that they are not. Personally I belive they should be and all the englishy stuff should have been appened to ASL.
 
loml said:
SEE uses signs from ASL, the modifications are used for representing the affixes, prefixes, suffixes and contractions used in English. The "root sign" remains the same.

For example: grasses = ASL sign for grass with a "s" handshape to represent the plural form - grasses.

Hope that helps.
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I'm sorry loml, the root signs are the same in some cases but there are many where they are not. Grass is a case in point. Also "what" is signed differently and I can think of many others.
 
loml said:
rockdrummer - The sign that Cheri describes is the one that I have used in ASL. You are using SEE, right? There is a SEE dictionary, Signing Exact English, Gerilee Gustavson and Esther Zawolkow, published Modern Sign Press.

This is an other good resource book: Signing Exact English Using Affixes, compiled by Billie McDavitt and Patrice Stephenson. It is a great resource that show "root sign" and the affixes, prefixes etc. I am pretty sure you can still get it through Modern Sign Press, Inc.
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Thank you loml. The problem is that I hate learning signs from a book. It's very difficult with some of the signs to figure out what the little drawings are trying to tell you. I love aslpro.com It makes ASL eaisly accessable. I wish there was a similar SEE site. I don't know. Maybe call it seepro.com. It makes me want to discuss another topic but perhaps I will start a thread about it.
 
LOL. Make the "F" sign...bring it up to your lips, as if you're smoking.

For added effect, puff...but don't inhale (Clinton style!). *Smirk*

Just curious...are you saying you sign in ASL and your son is signing in SEE?

You're right...ASL and SEE are very different...some signs are the same but some are so different. True SEE does not use conceptually accurate signs...for example...
Butterfly would be sign as butter (the spread) + fly (as in airplane, flying. Nowdays a lot of SEE users do use CASE (Conceptually Accurate Signed English) along with SEE...and some even use CVL (that's where some ASL signs would come in...called Contact Language Variety).
 
I use what I know with my son and if I don't know a sign the most accessable tool for me at home is my computer and aslpro.com is what I usually gravitate to. If there was a similar site that showed me signs in SEE I would go there but I have yet to find one. If anyone knows of a site that shows SEE signs I would appreciate it.

Thanks

And that is what I expected for the sign for mary jane.
 
deafbajagal said:
You're right...ASL and SEE are very different...some signs are the same but some are so different. True SEE does not use conceptually accurate signs...for example...
Butterfly would be sign as butter (the spread) + fly (as in airplane, flying.
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deafbajagal - I have seen what you are describing for "butterfly", with SEE, but only as a joke. The sign that is used for butterfly is the ASL sign for butterfly.
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rockdrummer said:
I'm sorry loml, the root signs are the same in some cases but there are many where they are not. Grass is a case in point. Also "what" is signed differently and I can think of many others.
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rockdrummer - I am confused. The sign in the SEE dictionary for grass is the same as the ASL dictionary. Banjos' example I have not seen in my location. I think what is important rd, is that you and your son are consistent with what you use.

There "what" sign in ASL, is different, as is the "do" sign .... go figure. :dunno:
 
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I'm a certified CDI...and I've been trained in SEE as well. That IS the sign for butterfly in true SEE form.
 
deafbajagal said:
I'm a certified CDI...and I've been trained in SEE as well. That IS the sign for butterfly in true SEE form.
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That may be what you choose to use deafbajagal, it is NOT what is taught here. The word butterfly may be a compound word, but it does not fit the rule for "root" word. Next you are going to tell me that that the sign for understand is: the ASL sign for under and the ASL sign for stand. :roll:
 
deafbajagal said:
ptually accurate signs...for example...
Butterfly would be sign as butter (the spread) + fly (as in airplane, flying. Nowdays a lot of SEE users do use CASE (Conceptually Accurate Signed English) along with SEE...and some even use CVL (that's where some ASL signs would come in...called Contact Language Variety).
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I sign butterfly with two the five hands, palms facing body and lock thumbs together, then wiggle fingers then go up and down.
 
deafbajagal said:
According to SEE II in Arkansas, it is a palm (5 fingers facing upward) on the chin, going up and down...kinda hard to explain.

That's a regional sign. :)
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That's the sign the Deaf community here in MD uses and it is part of the ASL vocabulary.
 
Lol! In Ark it's like the sign for football except upside down...goes to show that even modes of languages can interchange sometimes. :)
 
Originally Posted by deafbajagal
According to SEE II in Arkansas, it is a palm (5 fingers facing upward) on the chin, going up and down...kinda hard to explain.

That's a regional sign.
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shel90 said:
That's the sign the Deaf community here in MD uses and it is part of the ASL vocabulary.
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That is not the sign used on aslpro.com. Now I am really confused.
 
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